Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

I guess some people are less affected by this stuff than others. A coworker who saw this didn't even notice they were CGI and assumed they just used similar looking actors (she didn't watch the original star wars dozens of times as a kid like I did though, and only has a somewhat vague recollection of what those characters look like)

I imagine they are going to go back and redo the cgi Tarkin and Leia several times in the future so that in the special editions released in 10-15 years time it will probably look pretty much perfect.

Marvel have done the de-aging thing in a couple of their movies. It's a bit more convincing

I mean, I certainly knew they were CGI, and given that, looked amazingly good. I also knew a lot of the shots of x-wings were CGI, and for some reason, was less impressed. I hadn't read much about this movie before I saw, so I big part of my enjoyment had to do with not knowing they were coming.

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I am going to bring my 8 year old son to see this sometime in the next week and am going to ask him what he thinks of the CGI characters. I suspect he will not notice or be bothered by it at all.

May or may not have mentioned it, but my nine-year-old had no idea how they made Princess Leia young again. And didn't even notice the CGI Cushing at all. But then, she had no idea the actor was dead. Knowing that going in makes it hard to fully believe, no matter how good the effects.

like I'm going to listen to opinions on a Star Wars movie from a bunch of kids

For what it is worth, every time I watch older movies with my kids I make sure to stress how they were done without any computer effects at all. Just practical effects, or stunts, or models, or elaborate sets or paintings. Because otherwise they just assumed everything was done with computers, even black and white movies from the 1930s and 1940s. Because that's all they have known.

do your kids like the originals Josh?

Really Leia's CGI, I noticed it for the brief time she was on screen. However, I watch some clips of Ingvild Deila today and the one thing that had stood out to me during Rogue One - her teeth - belong to the actress. She also has a very similar face shape to ANH Fisher. I'm just not sure how much retouching she had.

i mean, the cgi was *weird*, but it didnt like ruin the movie for me or anything.

there was way more weird-face cgi in the first Captain America movie when they did bizarro scrawny Steve, and I still like and watch that movie

it doesnt upset the movie & the characters being there makes sense, it's not that big of a deal imo

unless doll-eyed tarkin gives you nightmares idk ymmv

or erotic dreams

:D

xpost My kids liked the originals to some extent, mostly New Hope/Jedi. I don't think they liked Empire as much. They never saw the prequels, have never asked to see them, and may not know they exist. They really didn't care for Force Awakens, to the extent that my younger daughter who saw the new one with me noted she had not seen any Star Wars movies since Force Awakens, which was a year ago.

After a conversation this evening, I'm curious as to whether there's correlation between being put off by CGI Cushing vs knowing about it beforehand. I'd not heard of it, and thought it was fine (though in fairness there were a few shots where the verisimilitude flickered I thought "I've enjoyed video games with entirely CGI characters, this is good").

i hadn't heard anything about it and it was v noticeable/off-putting when it cropped up

also a determining facror: were one or both of yr parents killed by cgi

saw a third time tonight....regarding the stolen Imperial ship, I was trying to figure out when they acquired it, cos originally they were in their own Rebel ship that they crashed, they're all told to stay put, and after they disobey K-2SO actually says "where are they going? we're leaving if Cassian comes back before them", suggesting they're going to leave in the now damaged ship. and then at the end of the scene, they're picking Jyn and Cassian up in a stolen Imperial ship.

obv had to have happened off-screen, perhaps w/ Bodhi helping K-2SO find one, just was a lil weird.

Dude are we going to have to send you back a fourth time

The U-wing is toast on Eadu. They steal the Imperial cargo shuttle from Eadu to get to Yavin.

Jesus

lol I know that silly - I meant, K2SO is chilling in the damaged U-Wing waiting for everybody to come back after he gets ditched, the firefight ensues and he's radioing the Rebels, and suddenly 2 minutes later they have an Imperial shuttle.

it was bodhi's shuttle that he traveled on to bring Galen's message I thought? Idk

This was terrific. Not much to add except that so much of the rebel hair and mustaches were right out of the 70s.

You should see how hairy they are under their suits.

I was looking forward to seeing Riz Ahmed in this, but, like so many others in this film, his character was severely underdeveloped and lacking any spark. I was happy enough with the film I got, but Gareth Edwards' original cut - the movie that was promised in the early trailers and marketing, before the drastic amount of reshoots with another director - will always hang over the film for me.

yeah, I hope they release some version of the original cut at some point. So many underdeveloped characters and plot threads in the beginning of this movie, which I assume are the result of the reshoots.

given that disney like to squeeze as much profit from their home video releases as possible, i suspect they'll release a standard dvd/blu-ray first and then a few months down the line a 'collector's edition' with a bunch of deleted scenes and a heavily-sanitised bonus feature about how the film was 'reshaped to better fit the director's vision'

imo they should craft the leftovers into a "Rogue One Holiday Special"

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/thank-god-rogue-one-made-darth-vader-a-proper-villain-1790293655

Now, scrap that stupid Boba Fett one-off and gimme Young Vader Murders A Lot Of People: A Star Wars Story.

a friend of mine who's old boss heard about the original cut said the studio was upset it was 'too art house' which is weird because why hire edwards to direct in the first place?

they also said forest whittaker's performance was hot garbage and the studio was not happy with it

he analyzes every line in the script and invents an accent to best present that line
so it's a different accent and inflection every line

also idk that godzilla film wasn't really "art house"

i hope that's not some sort of codephrase for "good cinematography and lots of martial arts"

lol 'performance' as reciting Joseph Campbell fortune cookies.

about the best you can hope for is sassy jokesmanship a la Ford in STAR WARS or O Isaac in EPIGRAM VII.

Young Vader Murders A Lot Of People: A Star Wars Story.

Didn't we get this already?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130208034628/starwars/images/8/8b/ChildrenSlaughter.png

that picture doesn't look like anything

I am pretty sure it is Young Darth Vader about to murder a bunch of kids.

*stares at picture* I don't understand, what am I supposed to see?

Just now recalling that the prequels called Jedi kids "younglings".

yeah i'm just going to stick to my westworld robot routine here

i'm not programmed to accept the existence of anything other than three star wars movies from the 70s/80s, a couple new ones, and a cartoon

and the Richard Pryor sketch

Lucas clearly killed a few too many of these when writing the prequel scripts:

http://www.yuengling.com/userfiles/image/n_newlook_prem_lgt.jpeg

yousa in deep doodoo

Yeah seriously lol at the idea that Edwards was too arthouse. There are loads of cool shots that didn't end up in the movie (and I particularly mourn the Tie Fighter one) but the idea we would have gotten some sort of deconstruction of the futility of war is laughable. Guy's a hack with an occasional good eye

"too arthouse" = fucking BORING like Monsters was

anyone fetishizing his original cut is pretending not to remember how his other movies were basically fuckin mood studies that happened to have cool monsters in them. reshoots likely made this movie better vs worse imo

The last bad thing about Monsters and Godzilla is that they're "hacky." Both are slow and pretty and like them or hate them the opposite of hacky in the Hollywood sense.

yeah the "real gritty war movie" makes me think people are thinking of the director of the other famously reshot movie this year

Abrams = "hacky" before Edwards any day.

I never got Forest Whittaker. Not in "Bird", "Ghost Dog"... nope. Never got his schtick and why people ate it up. When a CGI Peter Cushing can act circles around you in the same film then you know it's curtains..

Abrams = "hacky" before Edwards any day.

well he's got a head start

Abrams is the very definition of a hack.