Taking sides: Children vs. (non-human) animals

if the only people that matter to you are "you and yours" - which is I read when I read "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" - then you're probably an asshole

There are so many different types of parents and families (e.g. doctors, surgeons, social workers, knackered charity workers), I'm not sure you can reduce them to this broad "precious fucking nuclear family" generalisation.

"this very specific statement becomes far, far too broad and overly general when I choose to interpret selectively as such"

I'm not sure of the value of a close scriptural/textual analysis of Lex's remarks, but he was shooting far and wide as far as I can see:

99% of the time having children turns formerly interesting and fun adults into complete bores (the 1% mostly comprises naturally gifted raconteurs who can make any anecdote entertaining)

being boring is good imo

i have no kids and still manage to be quite boring and incredibly selfish fwiw

so which remark are you interested in arguing about? the moral one or the one where we're all boring?

i'm used to the way you guys are boring. i guess it must be comforting.

i mean how many years have people gotten up in arms over some good clean lex fun? it's like a cozy boring cup of tea by now.

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this thread is better when there are more dog/children comparisons and relative judgments

i do think reducing the scope of your interests and indeed love to your precious fucking nuclear family is a signifier of a worse person. it's fundamentally anti-solidarity.

The alleged "moral judgement"/ starting point for a moral judgement?

It's none of my business what peoples' interests are, nor my business to tell them what their interests should be - parents or non-parents.

I don't understand the anti-solidarity point.

if the only people that matter to you are "you and yours" - which is I read when I read "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" - then you're probably an asshole

^^^^^^^^^

Do you have a theory on couples?

Or brontosauruses

brontosauruses are the worst
I will take hours and hours with bratty kids and stinky dogs over 15 minutes with a brontosaurus

Double Income No Kids
DINK

My daughter is the result of a biracial marriage. My grandfather was born in Spring,TX and he loves the family I've help to create. During WWll he he fell in love with and married a czech born displaced german woman. Throughout my childhood I heard many racist comments on pretty much all fronts from this man. Now he is in love with my wife and child via Facebook. My wife has photos of her family and I'm seeing my racist grandfather genuinely asking questions about her grandfather who was also a WWll vet. My grandfather has used the words beautiful in so many of my wife's photos on Facebook that I'm in awe and shock. This was a man I feared for most of my childhood, who is now giving praise to my Mexican wife. Say what you will about parents and "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" but sometimes it helps to cure an old man of racism. I can only smile. and rethink who my grandfather is.

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this is the part of the thread where i start sharing my 11 year old kid's art.

if the only people that matter to you are "you and yours" - which is I read when I read "reducing the scope of interests and love to your nuclear family" - then you're probably an asshole

this is about as facile as the rest of the tombot contributions itt. can you edit these down to "assholes are assholes" in future? or just don't bother posting them.

also the idea that this thread revival is a provocation towards looking outward away from ourselves is so ridiculous as to be hilarious. thread actually embarrasses the board, all in all.

it's sad but it's funny too.

It is hard to get a man to understand something when his ability to keep posting with righteous indignation depends on his not understanding it

the balancing act between respect and condescension

It is hard to get a man to understand something when his ability to keep posting with righteous indignation depends on his not understanding it

did you read this off the toilet wall while taking a piss or something? wonderful input as ever.

best fortune cookie of all time.

xanax walt whitman

This whole thing started with some prick decrying conversations he's supposedly above and children. C'mon. You feel the need to vent about that, you're obviously the 1% 'raconteur you exalt in your mind's eye and, by that action, not. It's pathetic. Lex, Tombot: who wants to listen to you? Cause smug 'sophistication' is always latent attention-seeking or willful aloneness.

But go figure a board started by music critics tries to police what people love.

eh, I lost much respect for a lot of the angry defensive dads and uncles and affiliated victims in this thread a couple days ago

my cat can't draw, and his food and poops are disgusting, but he doesn't create nearly as close to the volume of laundry that my 5yo does

people talk about music here? xp

lol at an actual dad trying to promote less self-awareness about kids to someone who doesn't have any.

dads and uncles

not reading all of this, did dads and uncles actually get mad at lex pretend here?

oh nevermind why did i post that i need to make friends

i really need to meditate more frequently

fat chance of that, what with all your children and/or animals

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I think I need LocalGarda to grab another beer and explain to me how children are our future

i really need to meditate more frequently

― a but (brimstead), Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:47 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

misread that as "mediate" and thought you were proffering yourself as the person who could have reconciled Lex + the ilx dads/uncles

this is the part of the thread where i start sharing my 11 year old kid's art.

more of this please

is reginald the bee anything to do with this guy?: https://youtu.be/VGcVnXiApNk

^that is a jam! thread delivers

Well done everyone.

I mean this is basically how Trump got elected.

a lot of layabouts with nothing better to do than to cause trouble!

that's how i scold my kid and his friends too!

nuclear families picking on lex by existing.

did not expect it to go there but prob should have tbf

is always latent attention-seeking or willful aloneness.

covering all bases here

but disliking parents for being child-obsessed kinda has to be a generational thing, right? I mean, you wouldn't be annoyed by your own parents taking an interest in your life?

lex's parents being as uninterested in him as he wants other parents to be about their kids would explain a lot