Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

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wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.

mh 😏, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:

https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (two years ago) link

lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Fucking hell it's tomorrow

I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (one year ago) link

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (one year ago) link

It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (one year ago) link

A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (one year ago) link

This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.

Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (one year ago) link

I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.

Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (one year ago) link

If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app

so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (one year ago) link

i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure

Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (one year ago) link

I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo

mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (one year ago) link

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)

yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here

anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (one year ago) link

Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US network
Voyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (one year ago) link

nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation

mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (one year ago) link

this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (one year ago) link

points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (one year ago) link

cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying

j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (one year ago) link

Enjoying this!

First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (one year ago) link

We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes

But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (one year ago) link

A few minutes in, it looks right at least. The ship and cinematography look like a Star Trek show (vs. the new movies).

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:43 (one year ago) link

New Klingons - ehhhhhhhh. The makeup is so heavy their faces barely move.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:02 (one year ago) link

Huh.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:59 (one year ago) link

The theme manages to have twelve different sections, goes a bit Mahler for some reason, not very catchy

Although I speak as someone who liked Faith of the Heart so ignore me

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 September 2017 07:44 (one year ago) link

Only seen the first hour - I feel like I can semi-credibly guess which ideas/dialogue came from Fuller and what came from Kurtzman/Goldsman. Not bad but the character-backstory shit is hacky and painful.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:13 (one year ago) link

Thought it was ok. Will keep watching.

But yeah, the theme tune is a mess

groovypanda, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:17 (one year ago) link

I liked the show!

At the beginning I was thinking "hmm, is this Star Trek enough?"

But, thinking back, the best shows start out with their own scope and integrate. Enterprise was slavishly devoted to tying into continuity while not fleshing out much history. More than anything I got the impression that someone (Fuller? looked like he was the writer w/Ortzman) had an understanding of what TNG and DS9 did well.

The previews make it look like it's going to be scientific discovery (hah!) in a time of war. Which is a clearer mission statement than we've gotten recently.

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah did enjoy that and thought there was going to be more, but I guess CBS is running it as a weekly show and selling it on elsewhere.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:30 (one year ago) link

Gotta free up airtime for those Chuck Lorre productions and NCIS: Anchorage.

Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:38 (one year ago) link

I know it's a Toronto production, so I hate to say this but most of the sets looked pretty lacklustre. Felt like they were adding the occasional lens flares out of sheer desperation to spice it up. And yeahhh, the guys playing Klingons can't even act in all that get up. Hopefully they will sort it out as it goes along.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:35 (one year ago) link

I'm guessing the backgrounds in the Klingon ship were put there in post-production, because they were pretty ornate?

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:44 (one year ago) link

I thought the story was engaging & the character development pretty solid for a 2-ep premiere. I am so used to expecting exposition dumps for new shows but this played out like a mini movie, it was kinda thrilling tbh

I think the Michael character has been set up with good layers & i’m really interested to follow her journey now

Doug Jones was great & I loved Michelle Yeoh

Klingon makeup looks more like the movie Romulans but dont they always seem to screw around with their look iirc?

Mr Veg had some gripes about how it doesn’t look like it’s taking place before the original series but i wasnt too bothered by that myself

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:41 (one year ago) link

I was wondering if teh original Klingons were supposed to look like evil humans intentionally. Seem to be a bit Hispanic pirate update in the tv series or something don't they? Is that why they were made to look less human.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:45 (one year ago) link

Latest look has shades of Tudor era doublet and hose and tunic look don't it?

Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:46 (one year ago) link

klingons lose a bit of menace when they sound like they're trying to talk through a retainer.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/1/1f/Shelley.png
today ish a good day to die, you turdsh!

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:56 (one year ago) link

lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:59 (one year ago) link

should I watch this or is it going to be totally cancelled within a year

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:22 (one year ago) link

(I hated enterprise and found most of voyager boring as fuck)

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:22 (one year ago) link

it won't get "cancelled"... i'm sure first season's in the can
also, if they're really using this as a push for CBS All Access (I wonder how The Good Fight did) they'll probably keep it alive for that alone, regardless of ratings or quality. i mean look at Netflix's insane stable of shows, who knows how well any of these do or how much they cost to keep going with the verticality of it all

Nhex, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:27 (one year ago) link

i can't even imagine picking up another subscription tv service, not for this. piracy it is.

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:43 (one year ago) link

The first hour was a disaster. tons of pilot-speak where characters explain things that should be obvious in their world. tons of phrases that they put in because they sounded cool despite not making sense -- how is a species both "prey" and "bred to sense death"? the michael actress ruins a bunch of her lines. i found michelle yeoh's accent distracting, but the rest of her performance was solid. filler with an optical scrambler that lets them do the "go back to old technology" bit, which has been done frequently in Star Trek but still sucks. crap CG during the space walk.

second hour does the "balance of terror" / enemy below thing. not the best use of it but it still works. lots of forced parallels that are more coincidental than meaningful. i was pleasantly surprised by the ending.

oh and i was distracted by trying to figure out where in the ST timelines this happens -- young Sarek + Klingons gone for a century = shortly before TOS, timeline still not split. i suppose ST fans will just look it up online.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 25 September 2017 18:42 (one year ago) link

Continuity-wise, Shran from Enterprise will be happy to see they've named a ship after him... it's certainly BEEN A LONG ROAAAAAAAAAAD

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:59 (one year ago) link

I thought this took place before Enterprise?

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:28 (one year ago) link

100 years after Enterprise, or thereabouts. About a decade before the original series.

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:32 (one year ago) link

Just read it said that it was supposed to be about 10 years before the Shatner series. But that might be open to debate.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:34 (one year ago) link

They might run into, or at least hear about, the Enterprise commanded by Christopher Pike

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:40 (one year ago) link

oh I'm sure they will at some point if not this year then next year when the ratings start to flag. expect a time travel episode with someone from TNG at some point too to revive interest.

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:45 (one year ago) link

they've already got Sarek, what else do they need?

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:47 (one year ago) link

Khan's older stoner brother Chad.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:51 (one year ago) link

CHAAAAAAAAAD

mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:53 (one year ago) link

also, why did the signals appear briefly at the start of the season? why did burnham bother with saru's backwards shithole planet instead of getting someone like the vulcans to help out?

yes, i could deal with a few of these, but all together they come across as sloppy writing.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 20 April 2019 23:44 (three months ago) link

"have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?"

star trek beyond had lots of little ships. I did find the action sequences genuinely thrilling, which I hadn't felt before with Discovery. (If the budget overrun on the season premiere was spent on the X-Wing asteroid field sequence, they wasted their money.)

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 20 April 2019 23:48 (three months ago) link

Also it’s seems like poor starfleet management practice not to nominate a captain from the legions of commanders on discovery before they disappeared into the future.

I did like Number 1s very 60s hairstyle and overall looks. The 23rd century is about to enter a very retro phase.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:00 (two months ago) link

• why vulcans are unable to use contractions

contractions are illogical

j., Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:41 (two months ago) link

somehow

j., Sunday, 21 April 2019 00:41 (two months ago) link

Spock used contractions! He might be Vulcan, but he's no Soong-type android.

I really liked this for its pure spectacle! There's a million things that don't make sense this season (yes, the current writing regime continues the proud Trek tradition of not being able to do cool, well-considered sci-fi concepts*), but they hit enough beats that made up for it: Burnham's flight in the suit; the SFX for all of her jumps; Lrell and Ash with the requisite "TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE" (I seriously got choked up when they said it).

* Like they literally didn't need Burnham to send an additional signal! She appeared to Spock as a child, which should've been proof enough that she made it through the wormhole.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Sunday, 21 April 2019 04:34 (two months ago) link

have we had fighters/drones like that before in trek?

I'm pretty sure we saw some in some of the big space battles in DS9.

Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Sunday, 21 April 2019 04:36 (two months ago) link

xp i think that was mrs burnham who appeared to spock as a child

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 April 2019 06:42 (two months ago) link

ugh this was garbage

so confusing, maybe i misheard but at one point they say they can't get through to the rest of starfleet, then 5 minutes later "we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30". huh?

why didn't they just use the spore drive to jump to the delta quadrant and launch michael from there?

so much awful technobabble but the enterprise bridge officer asks the discovery one to "speak english" because she doesn't know what an arc second is :(

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:36 (two months ago) link

pretty sure they could have tied a string to that blast door handle. also, blast door was pretty strong, maybe they should build the whole ship out of them.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:57 (two months ago) link

spock: did u ever knooo that ur my heeeerooooo

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 20:58 (two months ago) link

"section 31 requires more transparency"

that went well, no-one's heard of it in ds9.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:08 (two months ago) link

i thouht the signal she was going to send to spock was the one from his childhood... so when did that one get sent?

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Saturday, 27 April 2019 21:14 (two months ago) link

we have 200 ships to [leland's] 30

i think this was a reference to all their lil fighters and drones (and then leland launched his own)

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 April 2019 22:06 (two months ago) link

That blast door scene made me cross. No way he could have stood directly on the other side of the glass and not been impacted somehow. WTF.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:04 (two months ago) link

spock's childhood meeting was with mike's mom. how the vision included the signals when mom didn't know anything about signals is a plot hole.

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 28 April 2019 08:49 (two months ago) link

There are dozens of star treks, not just 6 or 7, and if trek is a feeling then everyone has a different one. But i keep thinking of The Measure of a Man; it might not even be my favourite episode but in the writing, the problem posed and the solution offered, it was something of a peak. Nothing in Discovery was remotely of that calibre - in season 2 certainly. Season 1 had some things going for it, e.g. Tilly pushed the boundaries of what a starfleet officer could be, while staying true to or even exemplifying trek values; by season 2 she was mostly reduced to comic relief.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Sunday, 28 April 2019 11:15 (two months ago) link

I missed some of the wtf-ness that Jason Isaacs provided last season, but I really enjoyed this one. Shame the last episode was a Marvel movie climax laser fight though.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 28 April 2019 16:22 (two months ago) link

Hells yeah that massive pew pew scene hurt my head, I couldnt tell who was shooting what at some points.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:22 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

logic extremists

lol

j., Monday, 15 July 2019 06:41 (five days ago) link


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