Pie vs. Cake

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that does sound good

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

man you think you know a guy and then he busts in with a "blueberry is just ok" take. blueberry pie done right is a top five pie

I have an ongoing feud with one of my friends over blueberry pie, only it specifically has to be made with Maine blueberries; I find this detail/distinction so insufferable and enraging that my only recourse is to make sure every single blueberry pie I encounter is put directly into the trash

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

what is a "clear pie"

single crust with a vodka & cornstarch filling?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

what is a "clear pie"

― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:48 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha "clearly pies" is what i meant to say, clearly

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

"put a cloth over the blueberry one"
"why? people won't..."
{DJP is spotted entering room}
"QUICK, I CAN SEE HIM SCOUTING THE DOORWAYS FOR TRASH CANS"
{DJP slides up}
"fuck, too late"
DJP: "Can I see the Maine blueberry one for just a second"

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

jclc otm a good blueberry pie is one of the best, w/ some vanilla ice cream

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

i have had some real good cake in my time but this is pie in a walk

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

xp okay sure but when you spend a large amount of time with a person who regularly says "blueberry pie is the platonic ideal of all pies, but ONLY if made with Maine blueberries and ONLY when purchased in Ogunquit or Kennebunkport at these specific locations" you start throwin' 'bows

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

also sweet potato pie > blueberry pie

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

yea that is definitely dumb xp

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

pumpkin vs sweet potato which is better

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuPlZPCP7A

salthigh, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

pumpkin vs sweet potato which is better

lol this is not even in doubt

sweet potato pie is delicious, pumpkin pie tastes like an afterthought in comparison

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

It would seem more rational to me to keep the blueberry pie and throw that friend in the trash.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

wtf I'm not gonna eat my friend

that's just weird

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

well I'm not gonna eat that pie either after I put it in the trash so that's not a fair comparison point

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

a person who regularly says "blueberry pie is the platonic ideal of all pies, but ONLY if made with Maine blueberries and ONLY when purchased in Ogunquit or Kennebunkport at these specific locations" you start throwin' 'bows

this whole "it must only be made with THIS kind of [ingredient]" mindset is truly the most punchable mindset imo. Ottolenghi's cookbooks have a lot of "3 kaffir lime leaves" stuff but I asked him on Twitter about this and he said really guilelessly "oh, it's really ok, the main thing is the proportions, not the exact variety of whatever" and I realized that the "blueberries (Kennebunkport Sport variety where possible)" mindset is probably a lure for people who like to think of themselves as particularly discerning, a mindset which, if you appeal to it in your cookbooks, will sell you some cookbooks

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

a good pumpkin pie is a delight on which I won't hate but sweet potato pie is one of the wonders of the food world

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

average pie is better than average cake

the best cake is better than the best pie

this is basically the same thing as Beatles vs Rolling Stones

silverfish, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

u cant make blueberry pie with peaches tho

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

watch me

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

this whole "it must only be made with THIS kind of [ingredient]" mindset is truly the most punchable mindset imo. Ottolenghi's cookbooks have a lot of "3 kaffir lime leaves" stuff but I asked him on Twitter about this and he said really guilelessly "oh, it's really ok, the main thing is the proportions, not the exact variety of whatever" and I realized that the "blueberries (Kennebunkport Sport variety where possible)" mindset is probably a lure for people who like to think of themselves as particularly discerning, a mindset which, if you appeal to it in your cookbooks, will sell you some cookbooks

lol I love this

this dude and my wife made up a sweet potato pie recipe which was dependent (at his insistence) on using Japanese sweet potatoes because they are naturally sweeter than American sweet potatoes and therefore not as dependent upon added sugar (even though he used Splenda)

I can't front though, it was a bomb ass pie

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

yeah that's the thing, it's the same with SOME music dudes too, this insufferable mindset can lead you to some deeply sufferable chow/tunes

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

this whole "it must only be made with THIS kind of [ingredient]" mindset is truly the most punchable mindset imo. Ottolenghi's cookbooks have a lot of "3 kaffir lime leaves" stuff but I asked him on Twitter about this and he said really guilelessly "oh, it's really ok, the main thing is the proportions, not the exact variety of whatever" and I realized that the "blueberries (Kennebunkport Sport variety where possible)" mindset is probably a lure for people who like to think of themselves as particularly discerning, a mindset which, if you appeal to it in your cookbooks, will sell you some cookbooks

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:09 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which ilxor am i thinking of here

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Cake might win for non-gustatory reasons why because Cake Wrecks has brought so much joy into my life.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Wrecking a pie is never quite as hilarious.

My Lunch Is Older Than Your Lunch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that Maine thing is ridiculous obviously Alaska blueberries are the only reasonable option.

JoeStork, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

wild vs domesticated blueberries are pretty different but i can't imagine the location matters beyond that

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

I gotta go with pie because it can reach heights that I have not experienced with cake. However if I get handed a slice of mediocre cake that's nbd, if I get mediocre pie that's a fucking chore.

JoeStork, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

this is so easily pie that im ashamed for the threadstarter, who til now had some credibility on ilx food threads

never have i felt closer to darragh

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

xp yeah, I don't really know enough about varietal flavor differences and I've never had Maine blueberries, though my totally subjective feeling is that the Alaskan blueberries I've had have been superior to the WA ones. Supposedly they have more antioxidants but who knows.

JoeStork, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

most cakes disappoint imo but a really outstanding chocolate cake is better than most pies

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

when you reach the highest manifestations of both pie and cake, the only suitable reaction to either one is awe and delight, so comparison at that level is difficult.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

if I get handed a slice of mediocre cake that's nbd

the best cake is better than the best pie

I'm gonna disagree with these. I've had plenty of mediocre cake from office parties to church lunches, and binned plenty of them as a result, to the point where that cake better look really damn good or I'm passing. Otoh I would eat pretty much any pie.

#2: No way.

Snorting and all (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

I was about to construct a "haircake" joke but decided that I am better than that

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

are u really tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

pie is gonna win but I AM OBSESSED WITH CAKE

surm, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

xp: ... no ;_;

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

i wanna have my pie and cake it too

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

ha that was a bad miss from everyone til now

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

ha

fluke

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

I think I eat way more cake just cause we live in a cake-centric world but when I think about this, I think I am actually a pie man

iatee, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocb7pQKUcJ0

mark s, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

I say pie. You can have pie for breakfast, make them sweet or savory, they can have fruit or cream and other stuff, and best of all is the pie shake, a milkshake made by blending in a slice of pie, which is the best thing ever.

I'm making two cakes next week, a red velvet and a boozy rum cake. The latter is super complicated, and a good cake is much more satisfying, to me as a baker, than a good pie. But I still vote pie. Plus, like, pie in the face! You can't do that with cake, except during weddings, and that's a dumb tradition, anyway, to shove cake in each other's face. I don't think anyone would deny a much better tradition would be for the best man getting you with a pie in the face. Some time, at the reception, when you least expect it. That would be hilarious. The groom would be having a great time, but always, in the back of his mind, he'll be wondering: when is he going to get me? Maybe it will even happen during dessert, when he's having cake. Who knows?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

My favorite pies are pear-cherry, chocolate chess, sugar cream ... Banana cream pie done well is awesome, but it rarely happens. I can make a mean lemon-blueberry. Man, pie. And pie with a scoop of ice-cream is just so good. The only people who have cake and ice cream together are children, but they'll eat anything. Ask Carvel.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Not real into pies... I'm a big fan of cream pies -- banana cream & coconut cream are my favs.

Cake is disgusting.

Frobisher, Friday, 16 December 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

Oh man pear-cherry sounds great, cherry-only is often a bit much for me.

JoeStork, Saturday, 17 December 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Pie.

But on the Maine blueberry tip, I gotta insist that Maine blueberries are a totally, demonstrably different species from regular blueberries - neither better nor worse - but smaller and sweeter. But eff a man who abstains from a BBP on account of species loyalty.

rb (soda), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

There are so many pies to love

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 17 December 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

ctrl+F "pancake" 0/0

(was reviewing this for a Pi day work argument)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link


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