http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead
Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).
Should we change this thread title?
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.
― Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
Should we change this thread title?to:Sasha Deathwatch
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.
― mh đ, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link
Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:
https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.
― ÎáœÏÎčÏ, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
Fucking hell it's tomorrow
I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.
― Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.
― Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.
― Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app
so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
â Señor Winces (Old Lunch)
yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here
anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US networkVoyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link
points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying
― j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
Enjoying this!
First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes
But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link
A few minutes in, it looks right at least. The ship and cinematography look like a Star Trek show (vs. the new movies).
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link
New Klingons - ehhhhhhhh. The makeup is so heavy their faces barely move.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link
Huh.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link
The theme manages to have twelve different sections, goes a bit Mahler for some reason, not very catchy
Although I speak as someone who liked Faith of the Heart so ignore me
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 September 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link
Only seen the first hour - I feel like I can semi-credibly guess which ideas/dialogue came from Fuller and what came from Kurtzman/Goldsman. Not bad but the character-backstory shit is hacky and painful.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
Thought it was ok. Will keep watching. But yeah, the theme tune is a mess
― groovypanda, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
I liked the show!
At the beginning I was thinking "hmm, is this Star Trek enough?"
But, thinking back, the best shows start out with their own scope and integrate. Enterprise was slavishly devoted to tying into continuity while not fleshing out much history. More than anything I got the impression that someone (Fuller? looked like he was the writer w/Ortzman) had an understanding of what TNG and DS9 did well.
The previews make it look like it's going to be scientific discovery (hah!) in a time of war. Which is a clearer mission statement than we've gotten recently.
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
Yeah did enjoy that and thought there was going to be more, but I guess CBS is running it as a weekly show and selling it on elsewhere.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
Gotta free up airtime for those Chuck Lorre productions and NCIS: Anchorage.
― Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
I know it's a Toronto production, so I hate to say this but most of the sets looked pretty lacklustre. Felt like they were adding the occasional lens flares out of sheer desperation to spice it up. And yeahhh, the guys playing Klingons can't even act in all that get up. Hopefully they will sort it out as it goes along.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing the backgrounds in the Klingon ship were put there in post-production, because they were pretty ornate?
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
I thought the story was engaging & the character development pretty solid for a 2-ep premiere. I am so used to expecting exposition dumps for new shows but this played out like a mini movie, it was kinda thrilling tbh
I think the Michael character has been set up with good layers & iâm really interested to follow her journey now
Doug Jones was great & I loved Michelle Yeoh
Klingon makeup looks more like the movie Romulans but dont they always seem to screw around with their look iirc?
Mr Veg had some gripes about how it doesnât look like itâs taking place before the original series but i wasnt too bothered by that myself
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
I was wondering if teh original Klingons were supposed to look like evil humans intentionally. Seem to be a bit Hispanic pirate update in the tv series or something don't they? Is that why they were made to look less human.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
Latest look has shades of Tudor era doublet and hose and tunic look don't it?
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
klingons lose a bit of menace when they sound like they're trying to talk through a retainer.https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/1/1f/Shelley.pngtoday ish a good day to die, you turdsh!
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
lol
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
should I watch this or is it going to be totally cancelled within a year
― akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
(I hated enterprise and found most of voyager boring as fuck)
it won't get "cancelled"... i'm sure first season's in the can also, if they're really using this as a push for CBS All Access (I wonder how The Good Fight did) they'll probably keep it alive for that alone, regardless of ratings or quality. i mean look at Netflix's insane stable of shows, who knows how well any of these do or how much they cost to keep going with the verticality of it all
― Nhex, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
i can't even imagine picking up another subscription tv service, not for this. piracy it is.
― akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
The first hour was a disaster. tons of pilot-speak where characters explain things that should be obvious in their world. tons of phrases that they put in because they sounded cool despite not making sense -- how is a species both "prey" and "bred to sense death"? the michael actress ruins a bunch of her lines. i found michelle yeoh's accent distracting, but the rest of her performance was solid. filler with an optical scrambler that lets them do the "go back to old technology" bit, which has been done frequently in Star Trek but still sucks. crap CG during the space walk.
second hour does the "balance of terror" / enemy below thing. not the best use of it but it still works. lots of forced parallels that are more coincidental than meaningful. i was pleasantly surprised by the ending.
oh and i was distracted by trying to figure out where in the ST timelines this happens -- young Sarek + Klingons gone for a century = shortly before TOS, timeline still not split. i suppose ST fans will just look it up online.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 25 September 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
Continuity-wise, Shran from Enterprise will be happy to see they've named a ship after him... it's certainly BEEN A LONG ROAAAAAAAAAAD
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
I thought this took place before Enterprise?
― akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
100 years after Enterprise, or thereabouts. About a decade before the original series.
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
Just read it said that it was supposed to be about 10 years before the Shatner series. But that might be open to debate.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
They might run into, or at least hear about, the Enterprise commanded by Christopher Pike
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
briefly wondered, in the finale, if tilly and vance were gonna bang
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 March 2022 00:13 (two years ago) link
heh I accidentally unhid that comment before I saw it and of course could think of nothing else during those scenes
in the bit where Burnham describes to the 10C that she's sad cos one of the ones who died on that ship was her special one - it would have been a really good jape if they had space magicked Tarka back to life instead
overall this season was a very 6/10 viewing experience - actually that is probably a bit generous?
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 18 March 2022 10:50 (two years ago) link
The pacing really undermined this season (i.e. the endless Stuart Smalley affirmations) which was disappointing considering some of the spectacular visuals. It probably should have been 10 episodes.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:47 (two years ago) link
i liked thd finale okay, some good moments ⊠but when they were talking to the 10C i was like, all this imprecise language & feelings & belonging whatever like how would they even get wtf you are talking about YOU KNOW YOU DONT *SHARE* A LANGUAGE right!?ugh so annoying
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link
I might be weary but I thought the finale was fine and a reasonable conclusion!
― mh, Friday, 18 March 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
An OK ending, but Book being returned was obvious. I even used the phrase "he'll come back a la Close Encounters" and there he was, being delivered in a big ball of light, silouhette wallking towards them.
The leap from "thats too nuanced a concept to convey" to "I am going to use full sentences with cultural concepts and you will totes understand it all" within the space of what had to be an hour bugged me quite a bit.
Also, why the eff didnt the NiVar president lady just use her telepathy hours earlier mightve saved loads of trouble?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
OH and lol in the bit where Burnham describes to the 10C that she's sad cos one of the ones who died on that ship was her special one - it would have been a really good jape if they had space magicked Tarka back to life instead
I had the same thought! "...what, wrong guy?"
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2022 01:24 (two years ago) link
coked-up Season 2 Disco mightâve had the balls to do it - and then reveal that heâs mirror universe Burnhamâs father and also half-Gorn and a fanatical disciple of Sybok
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 19 March 2022 02:04 (two years ago) link
that would have been so good
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 March 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link
feels like this season was the most conventionally Star Trekky? or at least aiming for that, pulling back on the head-spinning ultra-compressed narrative, plot jackknifes and weird stuff with mushrooms - i guess they started to change tack last season but the jump to a far future setting distracted from it maybe
anyway feel like it is in danger of settling down into a âmid-to-late Voyagerâ vibe - i mean for all i know that is now a prized aesthetic but it felt pretty boring at the time
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 19 March 2022 05:48 (two years ago) link
or maybe i am just doing that fan thing of hating whatever is the current version of the show - i mean I donât really identify as a Discovery Fan⊠but i guess i watch it
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 19 March 2022 05:50 (two years ago) link
I'm glad it ditched the grimdark but I think the under defined characters with ad hoc development has been with the show from the start (Saru and Burnham going from antagonistic rivals to BFFs in basically 1 episode where he thinks he's dying). It's also really fine for the workplace as family thing except filtered through an embarrassing amount of sentimentality.
Voyager was boring and corny and I ended up giving up on that show too so maybe you're onto something, because Disco is imo a bad show full stop.
― Justice League: Picard (Leee), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
Really INTO, not fine for.
― Justice League: Picard (Leee), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link
voyager at least had seven and the doctor, who (if occasionally put into cringy situations) were good characters
the tension that burnham's presence caused in s01 was legit good, and jason isaacs has ~presence~. but since then it's been all kumbaya sprinkled with detmer's ptsd (okay, but rote) and bryce and reese arguing about book (risible)
at this point i like owo, reno, grudge and kovach; don't care about the rest
i guess i complain about this a lot but keep watching! oh well
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:18 (two years ago) link
I quit after a few eps of season 3, guess Iâm not missing much. At least there doesnât seem like a legit reason to watch this rather than carry on my long slow trawl through ds9 (mid season 2 nowâŠ)
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
But generally I agree the show is bad. Even the worst TOS/TNG/DS9 episodes have their wonderful casts and groovy/haunting period aesthetics to fall back on; I donât get much from the writing or the performances here (or in Picard). I liked the three leads from Strange New Worlds though, so⊠maybe
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
And the aesthetics are just too âstreaming show shot in Canadaâ
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
Stamets and the Doctor were good characters and Book for most of his first season but they've dragged them down to wallow with the rest of the cast.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link
I've just picked back up on the back half of the most recent season because my mom needs someone to complain to about how bad it is, really really hate the Federation President. One off bad political bosses are fine in ST IMO but they don't need to show up and meddle in every episode.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
i actually involuntarily groaned aloud in the finale when the doctor said 'i needed to be here with my family'
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link
I had to really think back to even remember there'd been some good plotlines! The whole mirror universe arc/Bad Isaacs, even part of the earlier Ash/Burnham story (after the klingon bit mostly fucked off). The spore drive discovery, chasing the red stars... ok so everythign til they jumped 900 years effectively.
Bring on the Pike and Kirk show, please.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link
Remember when there's a huge battle going on and thousands of people are dying and Burnham and Spock take a time out to chat about their feelings instead of getting on with it?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
This show did that a LOT and it was very baffling.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 March 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link
it's not as pithy, but "jump cut to the ready room where everything is soft focus and ferns and water features, and Michael and Saru gently touch each other's upper forearms and express their appreciation for togetherness at this difficult time" ranks beside "make it saab" in the canon of unforgettable ST summaries. It's taking me forever to get through this damn series.
― stet, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link