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― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
in the uk, pies are savoury and "cake" refers to balanitis
― banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
http://foodnetwork.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/food/fullset/2012/6/1/2/FNM_070112-Strawberry-Pie-Cake-Recipe_s4x3.jpg.rend.sni12col.landscape.jpeg
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
ban all false binaries
Cake, easily. Not much of a tradition for dessert pies where I'm from, but whenever I eat one, I regret my choice and gaze longingly towards the cakes. Lack of tradition yields lack of quality, perhaps.
That said, dinner pies >>>>>>>>>>> smörgåstårta. Are there other dinner cakes? Aspic, sorta, I guess?
― Rimsky-Koskenkorva (Øystein), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
I think limiting the realm of "dinner cake/pie" to the savory ones is a mistake
throw off your shackles, my friends
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
on one hand, most pastry is awful, on the other, savoury always beats sweet and cakes are barely even food
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
in related european news i have been considering a panettone vs stollen poll, but not sure italy is getting much of a look-in there (i find it a very tough call myself)
― imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
argument for cake: it's deliciousargument for pie: it's delicious
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
I mean really like those spanish tortillas, the eggy delicious thick-potato-omelette things, are cakes
cakes are barely even food
ban
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
my vote btw is for pie because I am a fucking glutton. there's no other way to describe me, I like to eat and eat. and I like foods I can eat a lot of. cake, no matter how good it is, I'm good after one piece. especially if it's a rich frosting. the frosting will knock me out. pie, line up half a dozen of them fuckers, I will eat them in sequence and put a bullet between your eyes if you try to sneak a piece from one of the not-in-use pies while I'm busy. cake is lovely, but at the end of the day, it cannot supply me with the quantity I need.
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
what if... we put frosting on the pie
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
DISRUPT YR DESSERT
this is so easily pie that im ashamed for the threadstarter, who til now had some credibility on ilx food threads
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
TS: "When come back, bring cake" vs "Birthday Pie" by Rihanna
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
the cake is a pie
― emil.y, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
^^^ gets it
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
ice cream cake
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
pen pineapple apple pen
― imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
i come from a pie family and will uphold our tradition here
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
joan completely otm
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
nut pies (pecan, walnut, etc) > cheesecakes > peanut butter pie & similar > cake > fruit pies
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
apple pie and rhubarb pie are vital, the other fruit pies i agree are low on the totem pole.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
waht
cherry is wonderful, strawberry rhubarb is wonderful, lemon meringue is wonderful, blueberry is just okay tho
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
strawberry rhubarb falls under rhubarblemon meringue falls under custard pies not fruit pies imo
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
chicken pie above all else
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
questions before I commit: is cobbler pie? is cheesecake pie?
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
cheesecake is piequiche is piecobbler is not pie
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
pie is a homeomorphism of pizza in the Four Foods Theory
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[12]
― new noise, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
xp
is shepherd's pie pie?is pizza pie?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
Cake is a better frosting delivery vehicle. What is it that pie does again?
xps: if cheesecake is pie that's totally not fair.
― how's life, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
shepherd's pie is not pie, it is a casserolepizza is pizza pie
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
boston cream pie is a cake
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
voted pie (peak value) over cake (career value)
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
if pizza is allowed as pie, pie will wipe the floor with cake. or something else a bit less disgusting sounding.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
not necessarily, if pizza is allowed as pie then it stands to reason that gin & tonic can be allowed as cake and then it's all to play for again
― banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
i think for this poll we are supposed to consider the traditional dessert pie, excluding pizza, cheesecake, savoury pies, etc. otherwise putting it up against cake makes less sense.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
cheesecake is probably the grayest area here
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
man you think you know a guy and then he busts in with a "blueberry is just ok" take. blueberry pie done right is a top five pie
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
coconut cream > tart cherry > chess > apple > other
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
The album title is presumably a reworking of the famous "Let Them Eat Cake" quote
― dance band (tangenttangent), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
want to make a lemon chess pie now hmmm
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
im assuming this is referring to dessert pies and dessert cakes so does not encompass fatayer/samosas/empanadas vs spanish tortillas. savoury pies vs savoury cakes is difficult. sweet pies vs sweet cakes is easy, clear pies is the answer
― marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
imo pizza is very tricky because its crust has yeast. proper cakes and pies really don't, I think -- pie crust, savory or sweet, is flour & shortening whether it's butter or lard or vegetable shortening. cakes that rise are muffins or biscuits. pizza really kinda is just the perfection of savory pie but in my view can only enter a pie vs. cake poll on somewhat false pretenses
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
agree that leavening is disqualifying here but in a grand taxonomy of food pizza is clearly in the same branch as pie
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
chocolate bourbon pecan pie is the apex dessert btw
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
what is a "clear pie"
― ¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
that does sound good
― ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
The Dutch Apple Pie does look like a pie! It has the bottom bit and the crumble makes a kind of lid, so it's more pie-like to me than tart type things.
The 'kitchn' link pretty much firms up the true definition, but I still maintain the average (British) person would expect both top and bottom crusts on something claiming to be a pie. Meaning is use and all that.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
the average (British) person
outrageous imo
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link
I voted cake before thinking this through and I've been regretting it every day
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link
It's ok, there's no electoral college in ilx and the right candidate won.
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t323/HappyGestapo/gifs/stoogew.gif
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link
ice cream cake got robbed
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 December 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link
Nobody heard it, the ice cream cakeBut still it lay moaning:I was much further out than you thought And not waving but melting.
― estela, Thursday, 22 December 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link
https://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/OagU6HD-0uBjyGF5Q3Bhkw/180s.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link
There's no argument that pie is more versatile and pretty fantastic. But cake is CAKE.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 December 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link
when did cake bacon
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link
it's possible cake baconed before bacon
did pie bacon before weebl? probably
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:34 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/496413655202676736?lang=en
― ogmor, Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:36 (seven years ago) link
Yeah well he set the scene for Trump, so he can fuck off.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:16 (seven years ago) link
There is no doubt that Trump prefers cake.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link
cake baconed??
― surm, Thursday, 22 December 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link
i thought that was cupcakes
tbf in the uk all of baking baconed the moment mary berry lifted a hopeful contestant's vol-au-vent to her lips
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link
bakened
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
boke
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
bakt
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
love chocolate
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0YGaLwVIAAwCad.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
Think you'll find that the protruding head makes that a torte
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
u_u
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
also must allow doo doo pies
I'm a little embarrassed by how long I laughed at this.
― ¶ (DJP), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:09 (seven years ago) link
let me tell you something about cake: i want 5 (not four) cakes for this Christmas
because at Christmas, you eat cake
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
That is more than fair. Cake can have its day, just as every dog has its day.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
i have eaten a roughly equal amount of cake and pie over the last 2 days, pie probably edging it
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
The English seem to favor puddings on Christmas, the poor sods.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link
Christmas pudding is great but i've got the feeling i'm the only one in this house who likes it
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
i will readily admit that i could not deny bread or banana pudding on any day
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
Don't even start a debate as to what is or is not a pudding.
That said, I just baked a dozen individual sticky toffee puddings topped with kumquats that counter the sweetness. Just waiting to be doused with toffee sauce and put under the broiler.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
Should say I also made an annoyingly elaborate 4-layer boozy rum cake (took three days!). And my wife made a cheesecake. Or cream cheese pie, if you prefer.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link
would eat kumquat toffee pudding and/or rum cake, obv
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
RUM CAKE omg
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
It's truly insane. Four-layer sponge cake soaked with rum syrup, with layers of rum-spiked cream in between and around the whole pile of cakes, then coated with a rum-spiked whipped cream. In total: 14 eggs, but no butter!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
damnnnn!!! jealous.
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
I think my wife is making a chocolate bourbon pecan pie for tomorrow's dessert festivities. At least I heard the idea floated and now it better happen otherwise a bunch of presents are going straight into the fireplace.
― ¶ (DJP), Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
I seem to hear in my mind the faraway voice of an unknown genius who is saying:
"Hmmm. Lovely. Could anything be better than this pecan pie? (inspiration hits like a ton of bricks) Wait! I know! A bourbon pecan pie! But wait! Dare I lift my eyes yet higher, where on yonder heights I seem to see...yes! (swoons briefly) A chocolate bourbon pecan pie!"
At which point the owner of the voice expires in delight and a welter of exclamation points.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
pecan pie + lemon meringue are my 2 pies
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, lemon meringue or key lime or cherry for me but on the other hand anything with a healthy booze component is a-ok
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
also is Baked Alaska a pie?
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link
No. It doesn't even have a crust, does it? Just ice cream in a shell of merengue on cake?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
lol yes
― surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
'Just' ice cream in a shell of meringue on a cake. 'Just'.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 25 December 2016 09:29 (seven years ago) link
Hahah truthbomb
― surm, Sunday, 25 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
I wanted baked Alaska for Xmas so bad and white Russians!
― surm, Sunday, 25 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
ctrl+F "pancake" 0/0
(was reviewing this for a Pi day work argument)
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link