pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

I understand what he did there but it's still weird how he shifts from being "Alex" from CO and he's suddenly doing whatever he's doing. If the whole review was written as a CO hommage it would still be a terrible idea that makes no sense in relation to Coltrane but it wouldn't be as unfortunate.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

This thread is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

whiney otm some of you are fucking crazy

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

i mean a pitchfork writer posted that reddit garbage on facebook like "who even has the time to write this bullshit," and there were five comments in a row that were like "these are legitimate questions i want answered!!!!"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if Schreiber's seen the River Nile by now?

how's life, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

I just like laughing at old Pitchfork reviews.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

But p4k is a team of writers... some people like those ones on reddit don't understand those implications. A critic can give an album 9 and it never make it on their EOY list or ever be mentioned again but that doesn't mean it should be deleted. Being ashamed of things you wrote is ok.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

Agree with everything you're saying Whiney, but your superior style of posting is just as annoying at the reddit-lite fare that came before it.

Position Position, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

my superior style of posting is superior for a reason, peeps

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

and B) Deleting P4k reviews from the days when they were out here calling people retards and talking about slaying pussy should make you LAUGH and not make you ANGRY.

― Whiney G. Weingarten

anger? are people like seriously mad about this, or are we just talking shit about a now-popular site's juvenalia?

i hardly think it rises to orwellian levels of dishonesty for people to deprecate their juvenalia, even if that juvenalia takes the form of public-facing work, but i think it is also appropriate for emendations to be noted as such in the fine print somewhere.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

but i think it is also appropriate for emendations to be noted as such in the fine print somewhere.

this reads a lot like "caring"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

they're an indie-rock reviews site not the Wall Street Journal

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

man i'll never make shitposter of the year now

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

anger? are people like seriously mad about this

i mean my evidence is anecdotal, but in my experience: yes

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

not necessarily the ppl here though

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

that dude on reddit was pissed enough to take time out of his day to write an inane 25 question interrogation about the site's standards and practices

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

almost posted the Coltrane review yesterday. some of the worst music writing of all time.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

This is like the most extreme fever swamp tip of the much broader malaise of people caring about the score number way more than the actual content of the review. All of these reviews were removed for being examples of awful writing. Unsurprisingly there's a high correlation between very high or very low scores and writing that tips over from uninspired to spectacularly, memorably bad.

Tim F, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

Gonna be capn-save-a-fork and say I hope every single person on ILX understands that A) it's achingly obvious, completely understandable and even a little empathy-inducing why 100% of these reviews are changed and deleted. And I would HOPE that any human being making the transition from a college-aged minneapolis coltrane cosplayer and ska apologist to an adult new york media mogul multi-millionaire under the conde nast umbrella would have the common fucking sense to delete their shit too

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:47 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm

I mean, are there ILX posts you made five years ago you wouldn't mind seeing stricken from the record? Let s/he who answers 'no' cast the first stone

Wimmels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

I think I repped for The Darkness once, for instance

Wimmels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

try one day ago

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

oh, and pitchfork can do what they will. peace to all

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

difference is nobody is paying us to make these posts, nobody is calling us professionals, ILX isn't putting on massive festivals, partnering with media companies, etc.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

the hollertronix guys made a decent b-more club mix. go buy that. You really don't need more than one cd of the stuff anyway

(whineyg), Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:12 PM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

I spy the makings of a potentially great new thread

Wimmels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

no

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

come on it'll be fun

Wimmels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

it's already a thread on 77 anyway

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

"ILX isn't putting on massive festivals"

by the time ilx could come up with a festival line-up - after multiple months-long poll and voting threads - everyone would be SO over all the artists picked.

scott seward, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

remember when Gnarls Barkley headlined the '07 ILM fest? jeez that was embarrassing.

nomar, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

I think it's probably wrong to lump each ilx poster's particular curiosity/amusement together into some kind of unified ilx hivemind that is as serious and concerned as a few pedantic redditors.

Evan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

Junior Boys doing Last Exit from start to finish. what a time we had.

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scott seward, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

scott otm
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Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

I mean to say I agree with Whiney so back to my original question: it's not the deleting of reviews which bothers me (nothing is ever deleted in the internet if you care that much to find it) as it does make sense with the points that Whiney mentions... god knows I'd love an edit/remove option on ilxor, it's the changing of scores of the reviews they do leave. I know it's very uncommon but for those rare instances I'd love to have a footnote with the previous score and reason for change, it would put in better context to know the previous score when reading the original review. The review might be worth reading even if the album
is not as good as originally thought when making revisions.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

all i can say is that it kind of pisses me off that kraftwerk won't acknowledge their first three albums... but that's mostly because they're great albums.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

can we all just agree that reddit is a garbage fire

maura, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

It depends on the subreddit. The r/music and r/indieheads subreddits are terrible. That's why I prefer hanging around here mildly annoying you guys.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Back in May, Redditors reported that Radiohead’s 2011 live video album, The King of Limbs: From the Basement, had disappeared from their iTunes after they bought it. Now, the group has announced that it’s back. You can also check it out on Apple Music here.

what a bunch of sell-outs.

Radiohead have a long and conflicted relationship with streaming services. In 2013, they pulled their music from Spotify, with Thom Yorke famously proclaiming the service “the last desperate fart of a dying corpse.”

fart on!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

how soon til we're down to 1 new review per day

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

Alvy Singer: [addressing the camera] There's an old joke - um... two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know; and such small portions."

na (NA), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

January 2017 release schedule is p rough, fam

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

I was about to say: it's the first week of a new year, release schedule's slow, lots of people still on break/vacation

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

I think in years past they took a few weeks break from publishing reviews after the Year End list, but at the end of 2016 they kept publishing a couple of reviews per day.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

haha tbc I am not asking for them to write more reviews, site could vanish now and I'd be okay with it. I was just wondering if this was another step in their slow progression to being a shitty news aggregator

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

like last year there were no reviews between Dec. 11 2015 and Jan. 4 2016

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 6 January 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Altered Zones had had a revive, if you're looking for something to read: http://www.alteredzones.com/

Position Position, Friday, 6 January 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

I am so happy I clicked on that link

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 6 January 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

You’ve probably learned a lot about trading over your goal period, too.

Evan, Friday, 6 January 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

yeah, this is normal, when Beyonce's self-titled album came out even that was a January review

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 7 January 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link


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