:)
also Mordy otm, I had no idea 75% of thee records existed
― sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
peace trail is a very weird record
― maura, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link
That Jeff Beck album is worth hearing; it's a collaboration with a female guitarist and singer who work together as Bones, and it's loud and ugly like a latter-day Cult record. I've never been a Beck fan, but this one's worth a stream at least.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link
I like Jeff Beck a lot, including recent stuff, but I didn't get around to Loud Hailer yet. It's definitely on my list.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
The average age of the artists in that Ultimate Classic Rock is a spritely 65.6. And that's only because the baby-faced Gen-Xers in Green Day (all 44) bring the average down. Otherwise it would be 68, including the young 52-54 yo upstarts in Metallica. It's understandable that baby boomers might be uncomfortable becoming fans of bands young enough to be their grandchildren, and it's cool that so many artists are remaining active into retirement age. But still, that list is kinda nuts.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link
The Textura list upthread is fascinating if only because I do not know a single album in there (except for the Carl Stone compilation and that's one of the most esoteric albums in my collection. Shing Kee 1986 is mindblowing btw).
Anyone recognize at least one album from there? Anything worth listening?
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:38 (seven years ago) link
Also looking at their lists from previous years and whoa I know only two albums at most. The mixes/reissues/compilations I can identify half of the list but the yearly ones seem chosen by someone who lives in a cave (in a good way).
Would love to see them (him? her?) give a decade list a try. Would love to see their top 50 albums for every decade if they follow the same sort of offbeat selection.
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link
agreed Textura is one of the more interesting ones of these we've seen. i don't know much from it, though i do know Halvorson, Hammock, Causa Sui and Johanna Warren. lots of good stuff to dig into, yes.
Moka, if you're intrigued by that one, be sure to click on the Anti-Gravity Bunny list, too. unless you're a drone wizard, there'll be plenty to discover there, too, i'd imagine
― alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 09:29 (seven years ago) link
Textura is always really good - I've heard a few of these (the Tignor, bvdub, Hammock, James Murray, Anne Garner, Hedvig Mollestad Trio - all excellent), and I know some of the other artists' earlier work but there's still a lot of totally unknown material to dive into. The music that Textura usually covers falls roughly within the triangle of modern/minimalist classical, experimental jazz and electronic/ambient.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/listomania/fifty-best-albums-2016
So it is still possible for a relatively 'generalist' publication to produce a more interesting list. Some of the usual suspects appear, but lots of interest in the lower reaches.
Top 10: Jenny Hval, Danny Brown, Anna Meredith, Mitski, Bon Iver, Chance The Rapper, Shura, Skepta, The Radio Dept., ATCQ.
― dorsalstop, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link
I love how that Classic Rock list begins "it was a great year for classic rock (except for everyone dying)..."
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link
"Tom Petty's other band, Mudcrutch..."
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
Ah, thanks for the Textura list. That's the kind of thing I was looking for. Based in Peterborough!
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link
perhaps Kendrick would've done better had he titled his songs this year
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:19 (seven years ago) link
"untitled 03" is a jam but how would you know
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link
The Textura list is great; I'm definitely going to start reading that site.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:33 (seven years ago) link
It's all about untitled 6 man
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous
i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
― niels
if kendrick had put untitled unmastered out as a "proper" record he would've gotten all kinds of shit for putting out an album that sounds like outtakes from "to pimp a butterfly".
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
re: the line of best fit list - since there seems to be a trend towards language policing around this time of year, can i humbly propose that we put the kibosh on "genre-queer"? or at least ask for some sort of explanation as to why PWR BTTM are "genre-queer" but Tengger Cavalry aren't?
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
"genre-queer" is so performative woke
― Position Position, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
from Textura list, Buck Curran's album is really good
― sleeve, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
I'm going to repeat myself from last year's thread and be surprised and puzzled at the paucity of Dawn Richard placements on these lists. I can understand her not being top 10 (tho she is for me), but to not be in the top 50 on several of the lists is weird. She gets good reviews, I know critics know/like her, but then she just disappears. (Except for odd things like being #1 on Fader last year.)
― birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
not that it would have mattered probably, but her album came out after most of these lists were already being compiled
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
it's nice that there are publications that want to proselytize to their fanbase and build a bridge to other kinds of music. arguably fiscally prudent, as well, although i suspect the "ultimate classic rock" demographic belong to the last generation that considers buying magazines in any way useful or important.
part of me just wants to give them a peaceful death. if they want to die thinking that eric clapton is the best guitar player of all time, just like their parents died loving lawrence welk and guy lombardo... let them. let ultimate classic rock magazine be the dead to bury the dead.
in the meantime, how about that bonnie raitt album?
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link
xp
Yeah, I'm sure that makes a difference. She'll probably crop up somewhere in the VV survey, whatever they're calling it this year.
― birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Fader has a 115 track list: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/13/best-songs-of-2016-playlist
― rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
And they put #1 at the beginning og the list, far too kind
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
breaking threadban to deplore the fader's write-up of #1 and probably everything else about their ever-so right-on list
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
that isn't actually right-on at all (see #1 write-up)
look dad, no white people! so fucking brave
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
.... that's their no. 1?
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
no their number one is rihanna, which is fine except it contains the words 'women are pure, wet temptation'
fuck the absolute false-woke hipster garbage that is the fader
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
lol lj this list is really weird but i hardly think it demands that register of distaste
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
(i was expressing surprise at "sex with me" being no. 1)
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
xp does it help that the author of 'women are pure, wet temptation' is female?
anyway, I'm not sure what's wrong abt the fader list including both poc artists and bon iver? (except maybe the bon iver album was a bit underwhelming)
― niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
There's also Mitski somewhere in the Fader list. Looking at the list I thought Fader was a magazine focused on hiphop and r&b so it was strange seeing Mitski and Bon Iver in there. It bothers me more that the few white artists on the list are some of the most boring ones.
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
sure yeah mitski is white and sings about being white
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
i'm outta this one
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
imago, take that shit to Reddit or w/e
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
no one wants to hear you call the Fader cucks because there's not enough white people on their list
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Here you go imago:
http://theboot.com/top-country-songs-of-2016/
But beware not even theboot dared to not have a beyonce song in their list.
― Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link
imago's transition from screeching facebook feminist to frothing alt-right pepe is so perfect
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
that's exactly what's happened here
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link
best list so far I think. wouldn't be my number 1 but she is the patron st of basic millennials so makes sense
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― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:36 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
incredible post
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
new board description
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
timeline here:
1. See Fader have a list 2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be 3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine? 4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.5. I'm alt-right now??
Nothing wrong with a majority nonwhite list per se but this one reeks of forcing it, performativity etc, and with some REALLY annoying writing
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link