Is there a thread for the rapid death of the newspaper industry?

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a reason to go buy a damn copy of the Sunday Times

http://www.nytco.com/new-york-times-to-offer-special-puzzle-section-exclusive-to-print-readers/

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 December 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/12/stop-the-press - reinforces my points

so far since the election I've spent more on "news" than I have in years but none of it has gone to a major US daily

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Monday, 19 December 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

should we just make a new thread about what a bootlicking shit show the new york times is

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

Isn't there already an NYT thread? Quiddities of the ruling class or w/e

maccabeelzebubbly (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link

I dunno, man, if the same shit reporters keep writing shit pieces, maybe we can try shining a light on those fuckers instead of this 'throw the baby out with the bathwater' kick the world seems to be on of late.

DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

^^^^^

maura, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...
three weeks pass...

So this long piece at Wired by Gabriel Snyder is a lot more even-handed (i.e. not a total exercise in slobbering all over the disruptive tech people) than I would suspect based on headline and venue:

One of the biggest initiatives Dolnick has been involved in is virtual reality. He says it started with an email he sent to Silverstein last year: “Hey man, want to see something cool?” Dolnick had just visited a VR production company called Vrse (since renamed Within) and brought one of their films, Clouds Over Sidra, into his office. The Times has since jumped into VR, partnering with Google to send its Cardboard VR viewers to all of its 1.1 million Sunday print-­edition subscribers, creating an NYT VR app that’s been downloaded more than 1 million times, and producing 16 (and counting) original films about topics as varied as displaced refugees (The Displaced), floating movie stars (Take Flight), and battling ISIS in Iraq (The Fight for Falluja). It remains a working experiment. The floating movie stars, for example: “People liked it, it got pretty good views,” Silverstein says. “But it didn’t feel like we were advancing the ball. It had a little whiff of ‘Look at us. We have VR.’”

Even as Sulzberger boasts, “We employ more journalists who can write code than any other news organization,” there are some at the Times—usually those who can’t write code—who chafe at these endless waves of experimentation. “When we’re told this is the new best practice, everyone marches in lockstep,” says one editor who asked to remain anonymous. “Facebook Live? Yep! Video? On it! The New York Times isn’t a place where people say no, and we’re flat-out exhausted.”

El Tomboto, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

duh, link

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/new-york-times-digital-journalism/

El Tomboto, Monday, 13 February 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

Is there a chrome plug-in that ensures I don't get to see anything Charles Krauthammer contributes to WaPo, even the headline, even the suggestion that he writes for them at all? I get why he's on the masthead, for balance and all, but he's such a hateful choad I'd just like to live in ignorance of anything he ever does.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Friday, 24 February 2017 12:46 (seven years ago) link

HamNo takes his turn at the piñata

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-new-york-times-is-not-built-for-this-1793008337

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link

HamNo OTM

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 07:06 (seven years ago) link

Who the fuck cares about columnists?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

columnists

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Someone should write a think piece about that. I nominate ... Friedman. Go!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

yogurt and squats blogger takes aim at the gray lady

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this uproar over the times' 14324th worst op-ed ever is a pretty good example of what's wrong with twitter liberalism

k3vin k., Saturday, 29 April 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

I probably agree with you. What did they do now?

I've had many days lately where I briefly considered reviving this thread to remind everyone the bad and failing NYT is run by lickspittles and is terrible, then remember I have better thinks to do like play Realm Grinder

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 April 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

seems like people don't want investigative reporting as much as they want to see their worldview faithfully represented in the media

― k3vin k., Monday, December 12, 2016 9:27 PM (four months ago)

looks like i already made the same point a few months ago. points for consistency

k3vin k., Saturday, 29 April 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

bret stephens writes climate skeptic piece, denizens of wokistan threaten to cancel their NYT subscriptions

k3vin k., Saturday, 29 April 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

my question is how woke can you really be if you haven't already canceled your NYT sub for one of the various other nonsense controversies?

k3vin k., Saturday, 29 April 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

Yes that's where I'm at
If you're frustrated by our current political situation why on earth are you reading the NYT much less paying for the "privilege"

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 April 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

there are a shocking number of people -- who work in media -- who don't know the difference between an editorial and an op-ed

k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 04:14 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

There's something odd abt this @nytimes article on small biz owners cheering Trump's decision to leave Paris treaty https://t.co/8VKj3NLBCg

— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) June 3, 2017

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Saturday, 3 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

talk about cultivating a source

maura, Saturday, 3 June 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

https://twitter.com/GlennThrush

:_(

j., Tuesday, 19 September 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The two local free weeklies have shrunk massively since they stopped doing ads for escorts in the back - wondering how long they'll stick around.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

The Stranger comes out every other week now and Seattle Weekly is no longer going to be an alt weekly. I haven't picked up either in print more than three times in 5 years in the city. The Seattle Times is the private mouthpiece of hateful anti-tax dipshits that accidentally seems to employ journalists as cover, which I do not consider it my civic duty to support. The best journalism in Seattle is done by bloggers.

.oO (silby), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

milo z hits it right. The decline of classifieds has been near-fatal; adult stuff going elsewhere is a killer.

what if a much of a which of a wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

The NYT may blow dead bears at doing its job, but it is one of very few outlets that are even trying.

― troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, December 13, 2016

Still as true as the day it was written.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 03:19 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

We were expecting there to be some pain with the sale of @LAWeekly. But we weren't expecting the Red Wedding. That's how deep the cuts are. 1/

— Mara Shalhoup (@mshalhoup) November 29, 2017

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

Mara Shalhoup is a great editor (I worked with her in a sidelong way when I did editing for the Chicago Reader) and what's in store for the LA Weekly does not look good.

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/brian-calle-la-weeklys-new-honcho-is-an-oc-weekly-scariest-person-8565478

However I'd be remiss if I didn't counterpoint her claim about the music editor with this:

Reading eulogies of the LA Weekly where people are praising the two most recent music editors like pic.twitter.com/5uxi5Pj6F6

— Kat Bee (@katbeee) November 30, 2017

(Also the actual best music editor out there is Philip Montoro.)

maura, Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

(That Kat Bee tweet is a thread, by the way.)

maura, Thursday, 30 November 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

maura, thanks for that background.

When I worked for Washington City Paper it was still owned by the Chicago Reader? (On and off approximately 96-00?). Everybody knew print was on its way out but there were still islands of relevance and we were having a great time partying on the wreckage.

here come the warm jorts (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

Repeating: All editors of @LAWeekly just got fired. One staff writer kept. Ex-editor @mshalhoup is tweeting her individual thanks. Gotta assume new mystery owners have a shadow staff waiting out in the parking lot.

— Kevin Roderick (@LAObserved) November 29, 2017

infinity (∞), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

http://www.laweekly.com/news/who-owns-la-weekly-8911213

The new owners of LA Weekly don’t want you to know who they are. They are hiding from you. They’ve got big black bags with question marks covering their big bald heads.

These new owners just laid off nine hardworking journalists. Why? For sport? To start anew? To fulfill a blood vendetta that is centuries old?

Maybe they have a good reason. Maybe they don’t.

We don’t know. You don’t know. No one knows but them.

Who owns this publication?

It’s a fair question.

Who is benefiting?

You deserve to know.

Who owns LA Weekly?

infinity (∞), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

uh wtf

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

NBC News reports:

The New York Daily News announced on Monday plans to eliminate half of its newsroom as part of a broader effort to refocus the newspaper. Daily News staff was notified of the cuts in an email sent by the company’s human resources department that also detailed a new direction for the paper, with an increased focus on breaking news with particular attention paid to crime, civil justice and public responsibility. It will still cover local news and sports, the email said.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

most people are going to wisely repeat to you the line that "newspapers are dying" like it's everyone on the internet's fault, and not a parasitic executive class vulturing their way through profitable newsrooms, destroying lives to fund their sixth house and second yacht

— Nathan Bernhardt (@jonbernhardt) July 23, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

The tale of TRONC has been pretty horrific to follow the last few years.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 08:08 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2018/oct/19/independent-deal-with-saudi-publisher-back-under-spotlight

The Independent essentially licensing its brand to the Saudi government.

The same crew (SRMG) who hired Vice for their embedded video advertorials.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 22 October 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

The majority of American households are spending $50 to $70 per month for internet service, on top of $30 to $100 per line for mobile internet. They do so to have access to Netflix, pornography, and email, of course, but they are absolutely also paying to read the news. Tens of millions of people read BuzzFeed, Gizmodo, Slate, and The New York Times monthly—and every one of them that is not browsing at a public library, or stealing WiFi, is paying for the privilege. They’re just not paying the people who are making it.

https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/buzzfeed-verizon-layoffs.php

mookieproof, Friday, 25 January 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link

the "learn to code!" retorts are largely trolling, but even if they are, good luck doing so (you can learn to code without a CS degree, obviously, but it's often a hiring requirement)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/technology/computer-science-courses-college.html

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 25 January 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link


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