So you don't care for unions either, lex?
― how's life, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
it's literally impossible to converse with a parent if their child is also there
literally impossible
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link
literally
impossible
They pissed off Zac's dickhead of a parent, so they're doing a fine job imo.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:04 (seven years ago) link
idk what's meant by "doubling down" on disliking children
i meant more analysing an impulse to see if it's fair or valid. but dunno if everyone is capable of this.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
not sure where fairness or validity come into a preference regarding one's environment or how one wants to spend time. the moral implications imputed on this thread are very weird. like, can you imagine anyone being called a bad person for not enjoying the company of dogs or cats??? or for saying they'd rather not spend their time in places or around people that make them feel uncomfortable?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link
― how's life, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:58 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
to be clear i am pro-unions and anti-selfish parents who even in that situation think the world revolves around their bloody toddler's bloody bedtime story
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link
don't really see it as a moral thing, just can't adopt a worldview that involves me hating strangers, or justifying hatred. children are not a marginal interest like "dogs" or "cats", we were all children - we would not exist if people did not reproduce. the behaviour of children does bother me, i don't consider myself amazingly good with them, but i know that i was probably like that as a child, to one extent or another, or most children are, because they are young and are learning how to behave. equally i guess lack of self-awareness or rude behaviour is not exclusive to children. it might be just catholic of me to talk about resisting base impulses but that also feels like one of the things that separates adults from children, or dogs.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:22 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
imo hating kids is fundamentally as weird as hating women or hating old people
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:23 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and you're aware that you cherry-picked some dumb asshole and that there are also millions of parents who support unions and worker's rights? christ
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
im just getting personally annoyed bc i have young son w/ autism and we've been in some intense fucking meltdown episodes in public and have had whole rooms stare at us thinking "what the fuck is wrong with that kid and that family" and i can only imagine someone like lex in that room
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
you guys are the ones bringing the word "hate" into it
thorough disinterest in children, and active discomfort and dislike of being around them, is not "hatred"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link
The post had nothing to do with unions.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link
... the one about poor little Zac, that is.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
it could be that some ppl hate children bc they realize that w/out them they themselves would not be forced to suffer the indignities of a world that consistently fails to appreciate them as the glorious height of human evolution such that their childhood state shares as much similarity to their current godhead status as an egg does to a chicken.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
alas who will shed a tear for interlocutors great and mighty, minds engaged in critical questions of our philosophical era, only to be disturbed by a baby w/ a load in its pants. only the whiffs of thine own farts provide succor in these unenlightened times amirite bro
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
i should step back im sorry lex. there are many moments when i very much prefer not to have kids around, even my own kids. like i said im not particularly comfortable around or confident hanging out w/ kids other than my own unless those kids are maybe playing w/ mine. im not someone w/ the capacity to work w/ little kids all the time and i could never be a teacher or children's social worker.
but ultimately local garda is very much otm, children are not really a marginal interest like a pet, they are young humans, even "thorough disinterest in and active discomfort and dislike of being around them" is ...... suspect .... could you imagine saying that about any other group of humans? women, old people, teenagers...
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link
lol xp
I don't hate [x], I just dislike being around them because they make me uncomfortable
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
constructing strawmen so you can psychoanalyse them, always a worthwhile contribution
xps
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
no worries man i know you're not engaged in anything valuable w/ your time. after all you've already demonstrated quite clearly that you're not raising children.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
could you imagine saying that about any other group of humans?
people, including all of you, say that every day about all sorts of groups of humans. tories, bankers and comic fans are among the groups of humans i generally don't enjoy spending time with, i'm sure you have your list.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link
after all you've already demonstrated quite clearly that you're not raising children.
― Mordy, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:49 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
too obvious a troll to rise to but i had forgotten the type of parent who are self-congratulatory as well as self-centred
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link
too obvious a troll to rise to but let me rise to it anyway. you're too much of a joke to take seriously in this or any other thread and you have an extreme sense of self-centered haughtiness belied by practically everything i've ever seen you express so this whole thing is pretty much taking a piss bc who gives a fuck if the lex likes or doesn't like anything.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link
i'm sure the kids will survive whatever withering glares you debase yourself to cast in their direction
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
Lex, comics fans are a group distinguished by a voluntary interest. Children, like old people, people with disabilities, etc. are a group distinguished by factors outside their control. Like those two groups in particular they are often taken advantage of. Xp
― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link
lex pretend is being very reasonable and its ok that he is not raising children, there are already a lot of them and the physical environment they are going to live in in 50 years time is going to be challenging for many, that is the future we have made for them
― saer, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link
who gives a fuck if the lex likes or doesn't like anything.
― Mordy, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:53 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk you're the one who keeps responding to an offhand grouse on the internet
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
#nodads forever, christ
dunno when saer became a curmudgeon.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
This is not about having children or not. This is about whether it is cool to say you "don't like" some group of people, saer. I don't want to have children either fwiw xp
― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
Children, like old people, people with disabilities, etc. are a group distinguished by factors outside their control. Like those two groups in particular they are often taken advantage of. Xp
― Treeship, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:56 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
as are dogs
but if you don't like dogs that's fine, it has no moral implications about your character whatsoever
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
Dogs aren't people though.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
it's been a while since the lex has been given the opportunity to revel in the spotlight like this, good work everyone
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
i get it now. you were born a dog and you begrudge those of us who were born human babies.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
what do you think you'd think of the child you were?
xpost
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
leaving aside what an execrable sentiment this is, you're doing a good job of substantiating lex's gripes about parents
― ogmor, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link
my dislike of lex has nothing to do w/ any progeny i have produced and in fact my enmity i believe predates my parenthood
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
Mordy otm throughout lex is a deeply unserious person fit for nothing but mockery
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
dunno when saer became a curmudgeon
I have had some unfortunate experiences of late, serenity came under severe multi-pronged attack and anxiety rose to new levels. I am hoping it will fade again soon!
I think its ok to say you don't like groups of people, where there are groups of people there is likely to be some kind of piercing noise or anxiety inducing activity
― saer, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link
Its ok to want to make it through the day with mental equilibrium in tact!
― saer, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
What if I said I didn't like people with facial disfigurements. They make me uncomfortable.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
hating kids is fundamentally as weird as hating women or hating old people
It's reductive, not "weird." I agree with a lot of lex's sentiments on this thread!
As a parent, your kids are either cute and friendly and great OR they're a pain in my ass and if they turn out to be anything other than disasters as adults it will be a miracle because you are an indulgent weirdo and I disagree with your style.
Disliking children is really an indirect dislike of parents. Parents are now and have always been the real enemy.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
More trenchantly, what if you said you didn't like LGBT people because they make you uncomfortable? Or Jewish people? Or African-Americans? Those would all be rightly condemned as being patently unacceptable and the mark of a cretinous piece of shit.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link
equating children with LGBT or african-american people is probably the most cretinous opinion expressed thus far (aside from mordy's troll one)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
ould you imagine saying that about any other group of humans?
people, including all of you, say that every day about all sorts of groups of humans. tories, bankers and comic fans are among the groups of humans i generally don't enjoy spending time with, i'm sure you have your list.― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:51 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:51 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao, you can't see the difference between children as one type of category of humans vs tories and comic fans as others? you realize everyday people say they "i don't hate LGBTQ people, i just actively dislike being around them and feel discomfort in their company"
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
Why? Children have as much control over who they are as the other groups do.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
always useful to be reassured that privileged wyt dudes really have no fucking idea what constitutes societal oppression tho!
ah i see this has been addressed lol xp