and I just did lol
― Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 29 September 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I pledged to myself not to check mine, although I have a ROUGH idea how ugly it is.
― Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Monday, 29 September 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
my company chose this week to transfer our 401ks from massmutual to fidelity; maybe a good choice, but we're also locked out of them all this week.
― akm, Monday, 29 September 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I think my 401(k) is beating the national average! And that is the only good news.
― i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 29 September 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, Congress will definitely get something done. but the GOP wants to play footsy with the credit markets for a couple of days by faking Democrats into voting for something that they said they'd vote for too. their little game of chicken is to force more Dems in opposing districts to vote for the thing that, while elsewhere pushing the meme that Dems are obstructionist/responsible for the failure.
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
in the meantime, people like Don mouth GOP talking points about how Pelosi is responsible for their little stunt
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Your little lady can defend herself just fine without you puffing your chest.
i'm not 'defending' Pelosi, though of course you would frame it that way, i'm telling you to stop spouting bullshit
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/business/28melt.html
a few dudes going buck in a room bring down aig / goldman exposed / feds step in
great article!
― \\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Don's Pelosi comment was wrong, but, still, why are you in such a hurry to defend these guys? The whole pack of'em got us in this mess in the first place, so excuse me if I'm not being so charitable to Barney Frank and his rapier wit.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry, Al, I know you believe the "whole pack of'em" bullshit just must inherently be true, but it's wrong
one party voted for this. one party voted against it. simple as that.
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
of course we've seen the House GOP being political babies before, haven't we?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/house-republicans-continue-vacation-protest/
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
and oh for the good old days
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/08/06/gingrich_threatens_government_shutdown.html
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Frank is chairman of the House Finance Committee, gabbs; whether he deserves blame for this incarnation of the bill, he was in charge as this meltdown occurs, and received thousands of dollars from these banks. What's so hard to understand? You're goddamn right I'm blaming everyone.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
hey guess what this thread is about economics
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
and we alllllll pay.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
it's just nice to see congress acting like itself again after seven long years of weak sauce intermittently broken up by lockstep with the administration
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
― gabbneb, Monday, September 29, 2008 5:14 PM (4 minutes ago)
uh by 'this' do you mean the bailout? dems were 60/40 yes, reps were 60/40 no, that's hardly simple
― goole, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
its somewhat simple
― \\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yes Hurting 2, right now I'm debating this whole law school thing... of course I'm taking out significantly more money than you are in loans. We'll both be stuck in this "brave new world" NYC economy in 3 years.
― sturt banton (burt_stanton), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Working on JARNDYCE & JARNDYCE case.
― Abbott, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
If all you're worried about is money, see if you can transfer to CUNY or some decent private that will offer you more scholarship. But you sound like you're not only worried about the money, judging from that other thread.
― Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
What other thread? I'm also worried about my sanity, if you mean -every- thread.
― sturt banton (burt_stanton), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
though the truth is, the structure of NYC law schools (including tuition) is built on the old version of NYC law life, which depended on Wall Street.. Now that Wall Street will "never be the same again", it's going to have this crazy trickle down effect, from the high flying big firm and corporate lawyers, all the way down to legal aid.
The debt I'm personally taking out (though not quite as bad as those without scholarships) is built on the assumptions of the old way, which obviously doesn't exist anymore. As in, my big worry is there'll be less government, public interest, and other positions due to 1) less tax money and 2) there being fewer positions for -all- attorneys in NYC, thus raising the standards for all jobs to a ridiculous degree.
― sturt banton (burt_stanton), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
So legal education based on the old way seems incongruous with entering the scary new uncharted waters we're finding ourselves in now. $_$
― sturt banton (burt_stanton), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
please, Al, Frank has been chair under a Republican President not known for his fondness for financial services regulation and a sub-filibuster Democratic Congress for 21 months. and he has proposed legislation and held hearings. but keep believing what Billo tells you.
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
my retard brother billo?
― goole, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
hey gabbneb, does it ever get hard toeing the party line? You must be a man of incredible stamina, because you make it look easy. Dragging up Gingrich stuff is a height of desperation that I honestly didn't think you could muster.
Meanwhile, after Pelosi finally gets a bill passed, don't cry too hard when it doesn't push Congress' approval ratings above Bush.
― Dandy Don Weiner, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
see, what i'm worried about is wholesale structural change in the healthcare system without accounting for the debt incurred by physicians during school, coupled with a long-term recession
then again, i don't know what i'm talking about
― the valves of houston (gbx), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Don how does it feel since you lost your balls betting against McCain?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Rolling US Economy Into The Shitbin Thread
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
(sorry Tom)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
nine figures tomorrow!!
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
haha Shakey, NICE. It hurts a lot worse than my vasectomy did.
and in the interest of the thread, the national debt is racing towards $10 trillion.
http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/09/national-debt-race-to-ten-trillion.html
― Dandy Don Weiner, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
hey gabbneb, does it ever get hard toeing the party line?
Does it ever get hard repeating GOP talking points?
Dragging up Gingrich stuff is a height of desperation that I honestly didn't think you could muster.
not really. he seems to be the 'intellect' behind the GOP young guns.
why would I care about Congress' approval rating? oh right, you were doing the Congress=Democrats conflation thing again.
― gabbneb, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm still unconvinced that Congress needs to do something about this. And why is there such a rush to do something? If Americans aren't soundly behind this, as I gather from polls and from what congresspeople are saying (Dems and Republicans), then doesn't this favor inaction while a better case is made for intervention?
― Peter Cetera (Euler), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think thats a reasonable concern, but id think that docs would be able to lobby for debt forgiveness in exchange for indentured servitude gbx.
xpost
― low ranking monkeys don't look at high ranking monkeys (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
(geez - are these boards really in need of such "moderation" now that one isn't even allowed to digress?? not that these particular digressions would be productive but..when did this hyper-vigilance start?
ilx3 will never = the old ilx again!)
― Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I am just being thread police because there are already lots of politics threads like "What's A Democratic Congress Going To Do?" for example
and old ILX was just as bad or worse we all know this
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
like a Democratic Congress!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
spendocrats
― sturt banton (burt_stanton), Monday, 29 September 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
point taken
― Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
oh man we are stuck watching o'reilly in here tonight for some reason and this cheryl casone bitch is losing her shit!! WALL STREET IS MAIN STREET WAKE UP PEOPLE YOU'RE NOT BAILING OUT FAT CATS YOU'RE BAILING OUT YOURSELVES!!! so I guess it isn't just socialism for the rich, it's socialism for the whole country! way to go lady
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"in soviet union, gasoline pays for YOU."
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
bad news for the market is good news for Obama
― Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Funny, the thrust of the info at the other end of your link is that McCain booted himself in the arse, by his own foolish actions in regard to the bailout bill. Why not say McCain acting stupid, self-important and erratic while economy tanks is good news for Obama. This would be more accurate.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
to hear him tell it, they used to call him "the sheriff", you know . . . sounds like i's flaming arrows time for the old sheriff
― Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link
are you saying Obama would rather win an election than save the economy, don?
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
ok I am doing this as hard as I can http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/50014~Finger-Posters.jpg
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I wish the suggest ban link took you to a form so that you could specify WHY exactly you think the user should be banned. It would be therapeutic.
― ian, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
If my wife was the heiress of a world-wide corporation that sells booze I would be certain that even if things went to absolute shit, we would still be zillionaires. Probably even more so!
Cos you know, if you're broke and you're unemployed and you're feeling shitty about your country damn straight you want a beer!
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link