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This is also great from the GQ article upthread and seems worth sharing on here. I can picture the exchanges.

“When I first started, I tried one time to unify a group splintered by whether I was still ‘funky’ or not. That question still goes on, obviously.” — Prince, 2001, on his early experiences with web chat rooms

Federico Boswarlos, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I can't imagine Prince of all people wanting to consciously retread past territory in the studio or recapture past glories. I'm sure he was trying to make good records at the time, or rather just getting out what he heard, same as when he made his classics.

I agree with this, but at the same time, he seems to become less interested in Big-Gesture albums, doesn't he? he does giant-package things like Crystal Ball, and the Rainbow Children's a concept album, but he kinda withdraws, it seems to me - whereas both Purple Rain and SOTT are pretty zeitgeist-aimed record imo ymmv

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

I can't imagine Prince of all people wanting to consciously retread past territory in the studio or recapture past glories. I'm sure he was trying to make good records at the time, or rather just getting out what he heard, same as when he made his classics.

Also reminded of some story about somebody, a producer, I think, asking Lou Reed why he didn't try write another "Sweet Jane," and Lou saying "I try to write 'Sweet Jane' every day." What are the artists supposed to say to these types of questions.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

You used to release zeitgeisty album after album. What went wrong: you or the zeitgeist?

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

*cue Sunset Boulevard reference*

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I have a Prince-ordered but never sat-upon sofa in my living room (no kidding, really for real). I bought it at a factory sale a month before he died for 66% off of retail. I'm not selling it 'cause it's comfortable and we've already bought stuff to go with the cool purple velour.

Three Word Username, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

what??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Prince left his ass cheeks imprinted on them

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Aren't you the afraid he is secretly still alive and will pop up from behind that sofa when least expected?

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

A certain ILX thread of yore comes to mind, and I would ask you to ensure such a fate never occurs to that couch.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

I mean, it's obviously a sexy couch, but it should be kept clean. (It's from these guys:http://bretz.com/)

Three Word Username, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

“When I first started, I tried one time to unify a group splintered by whether I was still ‘funky’ or not. That question still goes on, obviously.”

This made me cry with laughter for about 30 minutes last night.

jane burkini (suzy), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link

said in his baby powder-soft voice

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

"Then I joined ILX and realized the original group was kinda sane in comparison, and..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

those without 77 access will not connect of course but:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=478

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

i love the stuff about madonna

"I hate the script"
"Well I hate your shoes"

Battle of the shade queens <3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

that Prince Engineer Susan Rogers talk posted above is great. i'm 50 minutes in and she's talking about how they recorded his drum machine, by sending the drums individually to his BOSS guitar pedals. like putting the handclaps through the flange. amazing stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

I used to put my drum machine through a fuzz-box, so yeah.

Mark G, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

I always wondered if Prince put everything thru flanger pedals & units because they're predominantly painted purple

flappy bird, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

What amazes me about some of Prince's '80s work is just how much of it has a demo-ish quality to it while still sounding utterly fantastic.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

otm, i'd love to get digitized cassette dubs of the 80s albums, because this song bangs and the second generation dubbed sound of this copy is so warm and beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YCYsqSgQ

flappy bird, Friday, 9 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

I liked the part in that Susan Rogers interview where she talked about him starting songs by playing acoustic drums in the studio, just looking at a lyric sheet, no click, no guides, just having the whole arrangement in his head.

I assume she was talking about 'The Cross' since the interviewer had asked about it, but I'm curious what other ones this might apply to (most of the post-Dirty Mind songs I can think of with acoustic drums also have drum machines, which would have to be recorded first).

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

I used to put my drum machine through a fuzz-box, so yeah.

yeah but it kind of surprised me that he'd use a bank of BOSS pedals and not some specially designed custom box created by a electronics wizard. nope, just a cheap BOSS pedal. it's a small he's just like real people moment.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

Listening to 'When You Were Mine' right now and it's just so fucking perfect, yet it has this spur-of-the-moment freshness to it, like Prince just got it down as quickly as he could immediately after writing it. It has all the enthusiasm of a songwriter buzzing off writing a great new song and wanting to capture it, and the end result is just this perfect moment.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Haven't watched the video yet, but I seem to recall a Susan Rogers interview in which she told the story of the drum kit and the lyrics sheet. In that version he recorded four songs in sequence in one shot, tape rolling.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that's the opening salvo of Parade, "Christopher Tracy's Parade" / "New Position" / "I Wonder U" / "Under the Cherry Moon" all in one take.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

that's incredible, link to the interview?

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I immediately listened to those 4 tracks after reading that last night

sleeve, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

Think I may have read in a book.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

aight

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Here is one article with that quote: https://movingtheriver.com/2016/03/31/princes-parade-30-years-old-today/

Maybe someone can search the wording to find the original interview or further excerpts.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

simply incredible, thanks!

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

I'm gonna have to dig out Parade for a listen now. For some reason it's the album of his 1999 to Lovesexy run that I listen to the least.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

those four SOUND like they were done in one take to me, which is not a knock.

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

Aw man, 'New Position' is catchy as fuck.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

:)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

those four SOUND like they were done in one take to me, which is not a knock.
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses)

I remember when it came out, thinking how amazing it was that the rhythm of those four very different songs flowed so seamlessly. One weird thing is how the snare mutes as it transitions to "I Wonder U" - maybe he just switched how he was hitting or had a damper or something.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

it still burns me to think that, you know, too many of the wrong molecules on the wrong receptors one night and we fucking lost PRINCE.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

Even Burt Bacharach got choked up about it

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Walsh: I said to him, "Come on, man—don't you want to make another Sign o' the Times, another Purple Rain?" I don't know if I framed it exactly like that, but he said, "No, no—Jim, I've been to the mountaintop. There's nothing there."0

came here to post this.

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

Deserves its own thread.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

What I wouldn't give to know what he meant.

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

the futility of material success compared to spiritual pursuits

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

then again maybe if he had been on 5 more magazine covers he would have been granted access to Nirvana

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

Well, yeah, obviously. But what did he see or feel that confirmed that for him. And I don't think his friend was talking about Purple Rain, etc, in terms of commercial success, but some form of artistic ambition the later records seemed to relinquish, at least from Walsh's perspective.

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

xp

Herpes Bizarre (stevie), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

he also could've just said something witty for the sake of it

clouds, Monday, 12 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

^all of the above

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

What's the word on these Parachute Recording Company vinyl releases of Prince concerts? I saw a ton of them in Cheapo in Minneapolis and wondered if they were worth it.

https://www.discogs.com/label/1024637-Parachute-Recording-Company

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link


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