Thread for all 2016 albums of the year lists

someone who was nominated for Time's person of the year, conquered the VMAs and the Super Bowl and is currently sweeping the Grammys.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:28 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

none of these things are what make beyoncé's album good or remotely relevant to lemonade's quality

Beyoncé has been selling records and touring like an important musician since I can remember.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:29 PM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well she has been an important musician all this time, i'm talking solely about critics

the super bowl, you say

dunno what the super bowl is but i remember beyoncé graciously permitting a football (? baseball? basketball?) match to be appended to one of her concerts this year

I don't even mean Dawn's album is better. I'm just not seeing it in many lists alongside Beyonce etc. Anyway, I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight

is Whiney talking about Coldplay rn?

consensus is exclusion

also lol lex

Beyonce's last album would have been way up there had it not been released in December with no publicity. 4 did pretty well IIRC. Of the others only Birthday is even vaguely meriting of a high position in any of these lists and even then it was probably outdone by a lot of shonkier records.

Can we ban Louis from this thread

the super bowl is a controversial but popular american event where spectators enter a stadium and queue up to take a bit of cannabis housed in an american football field-size bowl

they sit down and people-watch as entertainers perform all types of art forms. there's a cloud of mystery as to whether the entertainers themselves are stoned

just fyi

"I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight"

Pretty sure you would be wetting your pants if a critical consensus was forming around Jute Gyte and the Cardiacs. Or you'd be complaining it was forming around the wrong records.

I'd be uneasy tbh

Anyway, I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago),

I hate to tell you this but every year since sometime in the 60s has had a consensus for rock & pop albums.

I expect it goes back further for jazz

One of the ilxors most obsessed with data and lists is just diarreahing all over this thread over and over again to say he hates the actual outcome of data and lists

Pretty sure you would be wetting your pants if a critical consensus was forming around Jute Gyte and the Cardiacs. Or you'd be complaining it was forming around the wrong records.

heh, was thinking the same thing.

it's okay he does this every year xp

ilx in general feels like a lj playground atm which is good in terms of preventing me spending too much time on here

One of the ilxors most obsessed with data and lists

and for once he doesnt mean me!!

lol

can't wait for louis to see the first set of country albums to appear on the ILE year-end thread.

I just want everything good represented. I want wildly differing lists with maybe a few albums cropping up multiple times, or more precisely multiple albums cropping up a few times. That isn't too much to ask for.

I like my own data and lists for personal tab-keeping reasons. I like looking at individuals' lists. That's a completely different thing to tabulating every list into one big consensus-ball. Data and lists are not just one thing. They're a world of grey areas.

ILE can have the country albums sure lol

Voting will start on the metal thread today or tomorrow, so in a weeks time we can see if Jute Gyte wins it

i like most of the music lex has been boosting lately. why u break heart :(

lj you wont get wildly differing lists. go look at rocklist.net or rym and you will see most of the same albums in a different order.

If you wilfully try to do a different list then you may not be accurately representing your taste.

The reason the ilm polls work is because I think people genuinely love King, Jute Gyte, Dawn or Annie not because they feel they shouldnt vote for music they like but is on other lists.

nme and melody maker lists from the 70s right up until the end all had a huge amount of the same albums just in a different order. spin.rs, etc probably the same.

I just want everything good represented. I want wildly differing lists with maybe a few albums cropping up multiple times, or more precisely multiple albums cropping up a few times. That isn't too much to ask for.

What you are actually saying is "I don't want the result of a poll"

someone will be posting "i prefer reading writers individual lists anyway" in 5, 4, 3, 2....

LJ's on it

I like looking at individuals' lists. That's a completely different thing to tabulating every list into one big consensus-ball.

Found 40-7 in the Guardian list. Not seen much talk about in on FB which is weird due to lots of ilx fb friends who write for it

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/nov/30/the-best-albums-of-2016

publications should just have their writers toss their lists into a bowl and run with the first one they pull out

they should compile a nominations list and make it mandatory for their staff writers to hear every record on the list before voting

that's in an ideal world. maybe I do hate poll results (ilx aside) though. won't post here any more after today

how mindful, how active, would you all say the inclusion of solange on these lists is. i'm not asking that to make a point about the album's quality like for blond. but really i don't have any confidence in the dialogue being there

i was completely taken by surprise by the solange album belatedly bowling me over - in the week after the us elections i often felt like it was the only thing i could listen to, which i didn't see coming. the initial wave of praise was suffocating (as initial waves of praise always are these days) but it's a really special album on a very real level to me

I've a heart of stone when it comes to that album but I've friends who like lex have embraced it since Nov. 8.

fun fact: Solange is Beynoce's sister

I liked it from the beginning but won't deny that it has a tranquility that has been partic appealing over the past month.

I like it a lot!

Afropop.org "stocking stuffers" (from below the equator on a couple of continents and more)

BISA KDEI
CAETANO VELOSA
DJ ROCKY MARSIANO
DON JAZZY
ELAGE DIOUF
ELZA SOARES
FATOU SEIDI GHALI
GILBERTO GIL
LOS HACHEROS
NOURA MINT SEYMALI
ORCHESTRE POLY-RYTHMO DE CONTONOU
OSEI KORANKYE
PEDRITO MARTINEZ GROUP
RICHARD BONA
TIKEN JAH FAKOLY
TIWA SAVAGE
VAUDOU GAME
VICTOR TAVARES
VIEUX KANTE
YISHAK BANJAW
ZOMBA PRISON PROJECT

Oops -- Here are the specifics

The complete list of this year’s recommended records, and where to find them:

Bitori, Legend of Funaná: The Forbidden Music of the Cape Verde Islands (Analog Africa)

Elage Diouf, Melokàane (DEP)

Tiwa Savage, R.E.D. (Mavin)

Bisa Kdei, Break Through (BLMC)

Yishak Banjaw, Love Songs Vol. 2 (Terenga Beat)

Debo Band, Ere Gobez (FPE)

Various Artists, Bobo Yeye: Belle Epoque in Upper Volta (Numero Group)

Various Artists, Urgent Jumping! East African Musiki Wa Dansi Classics (Sterns Africa)

Le Tout-Puissant Orchestre Poly-Rythmo, Madjafalao (Because Music)

Vaudou Game, Kidayu (Hot Casa)

Bossacucanova The Best of Bossacucanova (Six Degrees)

Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso, Dois Amigos: Um Século de Música (Ao Vivo) (Nonesuch)

Elza Soares, A Mulher do Fim do Mundo (Mais Um Discos)

Los Hacheros, Bambulaye (Chulo)

Ibrahim Maalouf, Black Light (Impulse)

Tiken Jah Fakoly, Racines (Universal)

Vieux Kanté, The Young Man’s Harp (Sterns Africa)

Bombino, Azel (Partisan)

Noura Mint Seymali, Noura Mint Seymali, Arbina (Glitterbeat)

Mohamed Abozekry, Karkadé (Jazz Village/Harmonia Mundi)

Osei Korankye, Seperewa of Ghana: Emmere Nhyina Nse (Akwaaba Music)

Richard Bona, Heritage (Qwest)

The Pedrito Martinez Group and Román Díaz, Habana Dreams (Motema Music)

Harold Lopez-Nussa, El Viaje (Mack Avenue)

Zomba Prison Project, I Will Not Stop Singing (Six Degrees)

Fatou Seidi Ghali & Alamnou Akrouni, Les Filles de Illighadad (Sahel Sounds)

Sahra Halgan Trio, Faransiskiyo Somaliland (Buda Music)

Aziza Brahim, Abbar el Hamada (Glitterbeat)

Rocky Marsiano, Meu Kamba Vol. Dois (Akwaaba)

Graveola E O Lixo Polifônico, Camaleão Borboleta (Mais Um Discos)

La Yegros, Magnetismo (Soundways)[i]

that Gil/Veloso album is a snooze imo

Noura Mint Seymali record is great, stripped down Saharan blues with a torch singer as a frontperson

she was super good live as well

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/620-revolvers-20-best-albums-of-2016/

Whiney I think used to write for Revolver

If you ignore the uniform adulation for Bowie, Radiohead, Nick Cave, Cohen and Iggy, albumoftheyear's aggregated list seems reasonably or at least predictably well representative of newer acts and genre range.

It's worse than GAPDY if you think it matters that the five this time are all decades old.

only if you're ageist

Oh yeah, and they're all men too.

interesting thing to me about the aggregate is how high kanye is placing with a record which seems widely to be considered a misstep. in the aoty rankings it's the highest placing record without a #1 vote. this i think is perhaps a better example than beyonce (whose record truly is superb) of someone getting plaudits based essentially on name recognition.

I liked it from the beginning but won't deny that it has a tranquility that has been partic appealing over the past month.

― rob, Friday, December 9, 2016 12:00 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's kind of brilliant about that album to me is that it conveys both serene and restorative tranquillity but also total broken-down (and very specific) depression simultaneously. it builds the former out of the latter but not in a worthy "how to overcome sadness through being excellent" kind of way, the sadness is the core of it.

like, it actually feels like being so fatigued that you want to give up while also ultimately working towards a kind of hope and making the case for these states of mind being intertwined if not the same thing

yep

I've never known the thread starter to be particularly interested in tracks rather than albums, and the thread title reflects that, but someone hit us up with some good tracks lists please. They're usually more fun/interesting.

It's worse than GAPDY if you think it matters that the five this time are all decades old.

GRAMPDY