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Hayes: Nobody was allowed to say "deadlines" around him. He hated that word. He said: "That's arbitrary and stupid. What happens when I go over the line? I'm dead?" Prince would always tell us "time is a trick." I remember one day I was late, and he was, "You're late, Morris!" and I said, "Well, you know, Prince, time is a trick…" It didn't work. He was, "How about I Jedi-mind-trick that check when you don't show up again?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

holy shit

Davison: We were on a flight from Minneapolis to Los Angeles, about a three-and-half-hour flight, and we'd been up pretty late the night before, but he wanted to go out to record. On the plane [he's] asking for pads and paper, and so I get him a notebook and pen and he starts writing, and he writes a poem, and he hands it to me. And I read it, and I go, "Well, you know, that's nice…sounds clever, good." I hand it back to him. Ten minutes, fifteen minutes later, he hands me another poem. I'm, like, "Oh yeah, that's just as good as the first." And I'm like, "Why does he keep handing me these poems?" This goes on for the whole flight, and we land, and he says, "Do you mind if we go to the studio?"—he was always cordial—and I'm like, you know, "You can do whatever you want to do." And he says, "Well, I'll just be there for a few hours and then we'll head to the house." And so we go to the studio. We were in there for three days, almost four days, straight. When he's finished, I go into the studio and I'm listening to the music. I asked him on the way home: "Did you have all that in your head? Not just the lyrics, not just the music, not just the melodies, but the arrangement, everything?" And he said, "Yeah, you know, I have to get it out when it's in there, or I can't sleep." He had written [the first two album sides of] Sign o' the Times. He had basically written an album in a three-and-a half-hour plane ride.

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

<3<3<3

jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

I love all of this so much ... but still the regret that we had to lose him to get these stories

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Freed: He wanted to sell a shirt for $1,000 that would get you into Paisley Park for free for life.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

i think me and donald trump have the same favorite vault/unreleased/bootleg prince song. big tall wall y'all.

― fact checking cuz

you think he's not that into "donald trump (black version)"?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

i love the stories about his sense of humor. dude was a funny motherfucker

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

prince is not allowed to die

this, the second post on this thread, remains truer than ever

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Walsh: I said to him, "Come on, man—don't you want to make another Sign o' the Times, another Purple Rain?" I don't know if I framed it exactly like that, but he said, "No, no—Jim, I've been to the mountaintop. There's nothing there."

o_O

niels, Friday, 9 December 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link

_*Walsh:* I said to him, "Come on, man—don't you want to make another Sign o' the Times, another Purple Rain?" I don't know if I framed it exactly like that, but he said, "No, no—Jim, I've been to the mountaintop. There's nothing there."_

o_O

^^^^ this one stood out to me too

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

This Susan Rogers RBMA lecture is fantastic. She goes deep on a few SOTT tracks, and so much more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ON0nQCQF08

J. Sam, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

For some reason, I thought that video title was Prince's full name, really.

Mark G, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

lol at "Prince Engineer Susan Rogers Nelson"

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

lolol

J. Sam, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

Dang, that was one of my screennames in reserve.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

Idk, that quote doesn't seem particularly surprising to me. It's a really dumb question.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

I don't think that's a dumb question at all really

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

20k for one pair of pants!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

I can't imagine Prince of all people wanting to consciously retread past territory in the studio or recapture past glories. I'm sure he was trying to make good records at the time, or rather just getting out what he heard, same as when he made his classics.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

This is also great from the GQ article upthread and seems worth sharing on here. I can picture the exchanges.

“When I first started, I tried one time to unify a group splintered by whether I was still ‘funky’ or not. That question still goes on, obviously.” — Prince, 2001, on his early experiences with web chat rooms

Federico Boswarlos, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I can't imagine Prince of all people wanting to consciously retread past territory in the studio or recapture past glories. I'm sure he was trying to make good records at the time, or rather just getting out what he heard, same as when he made his classics.

I agree with this, but at the same time, he seems to become less interested in Big-Gesture albums, doesn't he? he does giant-package things like Crystal Ball, and the Rainbow Children's a concept album, but he kinda withdraws, it seems to me - whereas both Purple Rain and SOTT are pretty zeitgeist-aimed record imo ymmv

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

I can't imagine Prince of all people wanting to consciously retread past territory in the studio or recapture past glories. I'm sure he was trying to make good records at the time, or rather just getting out what he heard, same as when he made his classics.

Also reminded of some story about somebody, a producer, I think, asking Lou Reed why he didn't try write another "Sweet Jane," and Lou saying "I try to write 'Sweet Jane' every day." What are the artists supposed to say to these types of questions.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

You used to release zeitgeisty album after album. What went wrong: you or the zeitgeist?

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

*cue Sunset Boulevard reference*

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I have a Prince-ordered but never sat-upon sofa in my living room (no kidding, really for real). I bought it at a factory sale a month before he died for 66% off of retail. I'm not selling it 'cause it's comfortable and we've already bought stuff to go with the cool purple velour.

Three Word Username, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

what??

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Prince left his ass cheeks imprinted on them

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Aren't you the afraid he is secretly still alive and will pop up from behind that sofa when least expected?

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

A certain ILX thread of yore comes to mind, and I would ask you to ensure such a fate never occurs to that couch.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

I mean, it's obviously a sexy couch, but it should be kept clean. (It's from these guys:http://bretz.com/)

Three Word Username, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

“When I first started, I tried one time to unify a group splintered by whether I was still ‘funky’ or not. That question still goes on, obviously.”

This made me cry with laughter for about 30 minutes last night.

jane burkini (suzy), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link

said in his baby powder-soft voice

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

"Then I joined ILX and realized the original group was kinda sane in comparison, and..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

those without 77 access will not connect of course but:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=478

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

i love the stuff about madonna

"I hate the script"
"Well I hate your shoes"

Battle of the shade queens <3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

that Prince Engineer Susan Rogers talk posted above is great. i'm 50 minutes in and she's talking about how they recorded his drum machine, by sending the drums individually to his BOSS guitar pedals. like putting the handclaps through the flange. amazing stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

I used to put my drum machine through a fuzz-box, so yeah.

Mark G, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

I always wondered if Prince put everything thru flanger pedals & units because they're predominantly painted purple

flappy bird, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

What amazes me about some of Prince's '80s work is just how much of it has a demo-ish quality to it while still sounding utterly fantastic.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

otm, i'd love to get digitized cassette dubs of the 80s albums, because this song bangs and the second generation dubbed sound of this copy is so warm and beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YCYsqSgQ

flappy bird, Friday, 9 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

I liked the part in that Susan Rogers interview where she talked about him starting songs by playing acoustic drums in the studio, just looking at a lyric sheet, no click, no guides, just having the whole arrangement in his head.

I assume she was talking about 'The Cross' since the interviewer had asked about it, but I'm curious what other ones this might apply to (most of the post-Dirty Mind songs I can think of with acoustic drums also have drum machines, which would have to be recorded first).

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

I used to put my drum machine through a fuzz-box, so yeah.

yeah but it kind of surprised me that he'd use a bank of BOSS pedals and not some specially designed custom box created by a electronics wizard. nope, just a cheap BOSS pedal. it's a small he's just like real people moment.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

Listening to 'When You Were Mine' right now and it's just so fucking perfect, yet it has this spur-of-the-moment freshness to it, like Prince just got it down as quickly as he could immediately after writing it. It has all the enthusiasm of a songwriter buzzing off writing a great new song and wanting to capture it, and the end result is just this perfect moment.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Haven't watched the video yet, but I seem to recall a Susan Rogers interview in which she told the story of the drum kit and the lyrics sheet. In that version he recorded four songs in sequence in one shot, tape rolling.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that's the opening salvo of Parade, "Christopher Tracy's Parade" / "New Position" / "I Wonder U" / "Under the Cherry Moon" all in one take.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

that's incredible, link to the interview?

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

I immediately listened to those 4 tracks after reading that last night

sleeve, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

Think I may have read in a book.

I Walk the Ondioline (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link


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