rolling Jericho calls The New Day trap queens 2016

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There was a ppv this week? Wasn't there two last week? And the launch of a new TV show? How the fuck does any follow?

plums (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 09:11 (seven years ago) link

there's another one on the 18th
http://www.smarkoutmoment.com/p/wwe-ppv-schedule-list.html

maura, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Yep and then none for six weeks till the Rumble weekend. Which is for the best, all things considered.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

WWE just signed Kimber Lee aka Princess KimberLee aka Chikara Grand Champion and afaik the first woman to ever hold the top title in a non exclusively female promotion.

Mordy, Friday, 9 December 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

and heidi lovelace and evie! two fucking finallys

nixon newell too, before she had a chance to become one

it feels like they haven't really been signing women from the indies so this just makes it even weirder that candice hasn't gotten in

qualx, Friday, 9 December 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

whoa like SIGNED signed? not just for the global womens tournament?

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

I still haven't seen proper confirmation of this, just retweets from the same fan site. But if it's true, it's great news! They sorely need new talent that can go with Asuka, 'cause the Performance Center build-em-up scrubs are a long way from cutting it.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

tbf by the time we see them in nxt, asuka will surely be gone... but it'll be talent that can go with ember, and an ember/evie/kimber/heidi + nixon four (five) horsewomen 2.0 is going to be innnnnnnsaaaaaaneeee

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

super excited that they're building nikki cross as this psycho tho and FINALLY had her eye that title... i would not mind seeing her take the strap off asuka (with sanity-related shenanigans no doubt)

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

tbf by the time we see them in nxt, asuka will surely be gone...

I dunno about that part. It's bad enough she had no one left to wrestle in NXT right now, you really think the main roster women, aside from the main eventers, are ready to tangle with someone like her? She would not be booked the same way. First things first she needs competition more on her level in NXT so she can lose but still look strong - it's unfortunate that they never gave Bayley a win over her. I think a strong programme with Nikki Cross or Ember Moon would help.

More importantly, you really think Kevin Dunn etc want someone like her on their TV?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 10 December 2016 09:10 (seven years ago) link

Well she's not fat so he might have no problem*. However she may see herself as a professional who won't get in a hot tub with him, so swings and roundabouts.

*on the other hand, Steen is champ so maybe he is losing his influence.

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

oh shit new member of bullet club <3 <3 <3 https://twitter.com/njpwworld/status/807517526200438785

Mordy, Saturday, 10 December 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

DASHING PRINCE OF DARK MATTER

this is gonna be gold

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Also does he briefly wear the mask he wore when rey rey "disfigured" him? That was my fav Cody.

One thing that was wrong with the guy is none of his wrestling was done with any intensity. I can see njpw bookers sorting that out p quickly.

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

kenny omega's tweet a few days ago implied that it might be ryback. thank god it isn't

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Sunday, 11 December 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link

WK11 card is looking insane. Eleven matches, all with the potential to be good or great (even the rumble match is entertaining in its own way). It's too bad that Ishii and YOSHI HASHI are relegated to the trios match, and I don't understand why Goto and Shibata have to fight yet again (why couldn't the Nakajima vs Shibata blowoff happen?), but otherwise I have no complaints, the show will be awesome.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link

straight up what is the point of a division, and now a whole weekly tv show, where cruiserweights are mandated to wrestle like non-cruiserweights and aren't given the resources anyone else is on the main roster to get their characters and feuds over

i appreciate the little bitty strands of storyline they're starting to pepper in but... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

qualx, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:53 (seven years ago) link

this show would've been a good opportunity to introduce win-loss records. it's playing like the CWC without any stakes, organization, or any real reason to watch the matches themselves

jack gallagher's lucky they don't care about how many wacky submission moves an individual wrestler does, but even he's starting to do the same things every match

love that headbutt though

qualx, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:56 (seven years ago) link

It's been reported that Kevin Dunn and Vince McMahon are in charge of 205 Live, not HHH or anyone else involved with the CWC, which pretty much answers all of your questions.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 15 December 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link

not surprising!

i'm staying away from this UK stuff

qualx, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

since when is orton in the wyatt family?

also why is orton in the wyatt family?

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

About one month. I don't think the "why" was ever answered -- he was feuding with the Wyatts, then he joined them and people assumed it was a ruse just to screw with them, but now it looks like he's with them for real.

I guess it makes sense for Orton because he's already done everything there is to do in WWE, and he's said in interviews that he feels revitalized by this new direction for his character.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 22 December 2016 08:44 (seven years ago) link

Poor luke harper. That guy deserves to be main event.

Any early suggestions for 2017 thread name? January should be great with wk11 and the rumble.

plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 22 December 2016 10:41 (seven years ago) link

- more belts than main-eventers
- hide your kids, hide your wife, because WWE is filling its cruiserweight and womens tournaments
- how to make nobody care about a shield reunion
- official ILX petition to get DUSTIN a WWE contract
- braun, nia, brock, GM mick foley and various other monsters
- kevin & chris's bogus journey

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Thursday, 22 December 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

I'm glad that jericho clearly reads this thread and realized his character needed a new direction

qualx, Friday, 23 December 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

spare thoughts:

-i enjoy reading lance storm's thing about the charlotte/sasha match that i didn't actually watch, which is a condemnation of wrestling fans but really a condemnation of bad wrestling announcing, but also pretty good as a condemnation of wrestling fans. it's pretty lol that he's literally like "uh read a BOOK you nerds" but it illustrates, in general, the problem a lot of us have, where we're too stuck in the meta vince mcmahon has nurtured, we demand storytelling but look at everything through the lens of the things we're not supposed to think about -- how strong a wrestler is made to look in the present moment, especially. ofc it's also WWE's fault for being so shitty right now, and possibly always, that they can't tell a story 99% of the time so the other 1% doesn't stand a chance, and they're so focused on training fans to think a certain way that eventually you get trained to react a certain way. but if they ever actually did turn a leaf and give us a decent story to follow, would we allow it? should 'storytelling' even be a priority?

-next week's smackdown is basically a PPV on television simply because there's literally 2 months between actual SD PPVs. which is annoying imo, but everyone on reddit and wherever is treating it like a great thing. i like the idea of 2 month PPV builds. i wish the brands alternated every month and never shared a month. the hope is that you don't have a weekly TV show that's just all build all the time, or awkward holding patterns when they get one of those weird 6-week breaks. actually spend those 2 months putting on a good show with important matches that eventually lead to a PPV. i think a lot about how the first season of LU was amazing for like 32 episodes, and then ultima lucha was announced and the 5 or 6 episodes between took a nosedive because it was all build. and that was just one PPV.

-i have to catch up on NJPW from dominion on in the next 2 weeks. it took me like 2 months to get through the 2 BOSJ matches i consider "enough" to say i've officially gotten through BOSJ (the final and ospreay/ricochet). i don't think i can watch these tournaments unless they're happening in real time. i also don't think i should have a njpwworld subscription anymore.

qualx, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:00 (seven years ago) link

I liked the finish of the Charlotte/Sasha match. The first 20 minutes were 'uh oh they're doing Bret/Shawn at WM12' but it really kicked into gear in the last third, making the overtime actually worth something.

My only issue with the booking of their feud, is that it would be totally fine to cycle Sasha out and slot in a new challenger for Charlotte, if they gave a toss about booking undercard feuds. I don't think it's an unfounded fear to believe that Sasha will spend the next few months swimming around in the doldrums with the other women who aren't getting title matches, since title matches are the only ones creative seem bothered doing anything creative with. At least on Raw at any rate; SmackDown! actually has a mid-card.

i like the idea of 2 month PPV builds

I LOVE the idea. But those days are long gone, man. The best we can hope for is NXT doing better lead-ups to their TakeOver specials; the last couple have been fun in the end but the builds weren't what they could've been.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 24 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

have p. much 100% checked out of wrestling for now. whole thing just feels like a colossal and unconscionable waste of time. enjoy checking in on whatever Miz and Styles are doing on SD very occasionally. has James Ellsworth won the world title yet? everything about Raw is just terrible. every single fucking part of it.

the Lesnar / Goldberg match was the kinda thing I would've got worked up about once upon a time and is symptomatic of many of the problems with the way they run things today, but I lolled when i read the report. i don't think that's a good thing necessarily, when formerly devoted fans start feeling that way.

i'll check back in for the Rumble and Mania I'm sure, but short of something truly magical happening (hasn't there been talk of Styles getting a match against Taker / a returning HBK(?!)?) i think i'm out for the foreseeable. had enough of their bullshit

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 24 December 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Rolling Chris and Kevin's Bogus Journey 2017

plums (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 January 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Bug in that link: I had to add the 'www.' to make it work for me.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 09:07 (seven years ago) link


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