I haven't wTched the last 40 minutes but I assume Eastworld is a bunch of cranky old robots talking to chairs
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
No, Eastworld is preppies, yachting, and leafy colleges.
― pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link
guys the logo made it clear that it's ~samurai~ world, sheesh
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
there's nothing inherent in the genre that requires shotgunning out a bunch of characters whose fates you don't care about and then telling the entire story in expository speeches
^^^otm. these failings have nothing to do with genre.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
basic storytelling error
storyshow dont storytell
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
the scripts for every sci-fi show are probably covered with puzzled notes from execs
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
xp thought the "s" on the logo might be for "stereotype" tbh
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
i will agree that this had "baked by committee" written all over it in trump sized letters
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link
Jesus this is interminable and there's still another hour to go
― kinder, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
the line "the gods are pussies" made it all worthwhile for me
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
bar is very low but yes Ingrid Bolsø Berdal was a bright spot throughoutalso Leonardo Nam's face when she is like "explain these azn people"
that was about it for bright spots
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
From that theringer.com link: (Personal conspiracy theory: Lee is Jonathan Nolan’s fictional version of Christopher Nolan.). That would actually be hilarious if true.
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
i understand why they do it but honestly this show is not worth the time to read a thinkpiece, let alone write one.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
I thought that was fun!
The plotting and character motivation is such a weird mix of dense overplotting vs. let's make this up as we go along
But overall, pretty good!
HBO should just go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
Basically, I really enjoyed all the violence and the existential stuff was a bit snoozy
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link
there was some extra violence after the credits in case you missed it
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link
found this excruciatingly drawn out though. Predictably enough, the overexplaining that was required to make sure everyone got the multiple timelines thing just killed the episode dead
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link
Thanks for the post-credits tip!
― schwantz, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link
go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though
Sadly, I think Verhoeven is done w/ working in the USA.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link
Trying to work up enough frustration and annoyance for some mid-level internet outrage but I got nothing. Was hoping that Maeve would have at least taken the monorail outside (big reveal: a planetoid city or something) before succumbing to the oldest plot device in the book. I hope season two is entirely Samurai World - hell, every season should be a different world.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 08:20 (seven years ago) link
I suspect their budget doesn't stretch to showing the outside world
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link
THere have been a couple of photographs shown for very short stretches that were taken in the normal world but mocking up a photograph is presumably a heck of a lot cheaper than making a set or the effects for an actor to act in.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link
I thought the seemingly endless elevator ride down to the trains worked as a decent teaser of what the outside world might be.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that was intriguing!
― kinder, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
Isn't that just because the facility is at the top of a mesa
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link
They were already down on whichever level that has shared infrastructure with Samurai World
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link
Still down to the terminal
http://www.inverse.com/amp/article/22284-westworld-delos-map-mesa-gold
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link
Finally finished the episode
I don't know why you guys were calling it Eastworld when there was clearly an SW logo
I was really hoping to see an old drunk Logan turn up at the reception
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link
I tried twice to finish E9 and could NOT MAKE IT
Which I took as a sign
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link
This isn't back til 2018 btw
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link
Scene with the blonde replicant hiding, then moving her eyes, then kicking ass was pure Pris
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link
so I've always shut this off right when the credits start but I noticed this episode had a post-credit sequence with the Charlize Theron tattoo-bot ripping her own arm off. Did the other episode have scenes at the end?
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link
https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/3E2P1u25301Y3I091d2z/season%201%20is%20over.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
theyre, wearing underwear
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link
eastworld intriguing, eastworld
i liked it. you are all whiners. I took a good 15 minute snooze in the middle though.
― akm, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link
Instead of stars this show should have a "ZZZZ" scale
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
i think the show embracing its complete pulp trashiness worked for a satisfying finale (also believe this to be true of the 9th episode, which, again, had people FUCKING IN A BURNING TENT).
still too long, still too much exposition, and the reveal that all the william stuff was dolores being stuck in various memories and losing her mind in time did not cover up how silly it was to treat william=man in black like a big secret (as it was guessed quickly by most)
but what the hell. i enjoyed it. i think that having blown up the show's foundation is a good thing, and that maybe, much like the leftovers team, they could take some of the various criticisms that have been bandied about and retool for a second season that properly addressed those issues and made something that worked as more than a mystery box.
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I wonder what the vibe was on Logan & William's tram ride back out of the park, and subsequent Thanksgiving dinner.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
maybe he went straight up insane
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
"Logan doesn't usually get THIS drunk"
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
"Guys, listen to me. You think William is like this nice, gentle guy--but I literally saw him cut off 500 arms and legs!"
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
"nah. william? whaaaat? never happen. you're losing it logan ol' pal time for yr thorazine"
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
Westworld, where all your fanboy theories come true!
What a waste tbh. Enjoyed the finale finally getting to where it was obviously always going to get to but there was no weight to any of it. Less of a drama, more of a computer programme executing something shiny that you'd told it to do. The entire series should have been two episodes max - and in terms of whatever grand narrative they have planned, everything that happened is only a prologue.
Disappointed that Maeve didn't make it to the mysterious real world too but was that meant to be her finally making an independent decision? Or was she always programmed to turn back?
Logan turned out to be both more interesting and more likeable than William, whose arc was basically "went mad, stayed boring". Feel like we could've done with the scene where he decided Logan needed to be naked.
I get why Dolores's story was told in a confusing non-linear multiple timeline way but even if that's what was happening to her, it leeched the narrative of any drama or easily followable sense.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
Every Maeve scene, and Armistice/Hector helping her break out, was like a million times more electrifying than ANY other scene.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
Less of a drama, more of a computer programme executing something shiny that you'd told it to do
they're being meta, don't you see
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
lex otm
this was dumb and sucked. what a slog.
when the lindelof show beats you at mystery, setting and heartstring tugging you've really blown it hard
― goole, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
i was really hoping maeve was going to kill more people in this
― akm, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
by shooting laser beams from her eyes!
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link