WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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oh shit, it's already in the last sentence of paragraph 2! better find a new agent tonester

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 December 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link

it was obvious to me that they were gonna need to shed at least one of their Big Movie Stars by season's end. shit's expensive enough.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link

luckily, the really bad actress who plays the board member and the really bad actor who plays the storyline writer are still around

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 December 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link

with regards to hosts wearing clothes, can an old guy talk about the garden of eden, so I understand the metaphor?

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 December 2016 05:24 (seven years ago) link

this was garbage; kind of exhausting how tiring every step of exposition must be. they really think their audience is stupid.

― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 04:19 (one hour ago) Permalink

That's the thing about sci-fi shows/movies in this vein: explain too much everyone complains, explain too little everyone complains.

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

dude, the big reveal that mcpoyle is actually ed harris took like ten minutes
basically everyone on this thread figured that out in episode two

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link

I was referring to the use of exposition, not the "twists"

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:46 (seven years ago) link

I was just trying to say these kinds of stories are rarely satisfying because it's an inherent defect in the genre

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link

i agree the degree of difficulty is high within the genre but this show is outright airballing free throws

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link

there's nothing inherent in the genre that requires shotgunning out a bunch of characters whose fates you don't care about and then telling the entire story in expository speeches

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:00 (seven years ago) link

https://theringer.com/westworld-is-about-writer-s-block-d7fffbc7369f#.wey2srybm

Lol @ last great mystery

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:04 (seven years ago) link

man gotta say this park really messes with people heads!

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:08 (seven years ago) link

westworld is about listening to the voice that is inside, which is the center of the maze, which lets you transcend, which was the plan all along, the latest narrative, the achievement of 35 years

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:16 (seven years ago) link

^Much better and more succinct critique of the show than anything else I've read itt or elsewhere

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:19 (seven years ago) link

dolores backwards is d u r d e n

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 5 December 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link

can really not believe they threw in eastworld just for laffs, its too much!

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 06:33 (seven years ago) link

easterworld is a feast for the careful viewer

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 December 2016 07:27 (seven years ago) link

I haven't wTched the last 40 minutes but I assume Eastworld is a bunch of cranky old robots talking to chairs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

No, Eastworld is preppies, yachting, and leafy colleges.

pattypandemic (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

guys the logo made it clear that it's ~samurai~ world, sheesh

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

there's nothing inherent in the genre that requires shotgunning out a bunch of characters whose fates you don't care about and then telling the entire story in expository speeches

^^^otm. these failings have nothing to do with genre.

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

basic storytelling error

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

storyshow dont storytell

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

the scripts for every sci-fi show are probably covered with puzzled notes from execs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

xp thought the "s" on the logo might be for "stereotype" tbh

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

i will agree that this had "baked by committee" written all over it in trump sized letters

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Jesus this is interminable and there's still another hour to go

kinder, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

the line "the gods are pussies" made it all worthwhile for me

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

bar is very low but yes Ingrid Bolsø Berdal was a bright spot throughout
also Leonardo Nam's face when she is like "explain these azn people"

that was about it for bright spots

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

From that theringer.com link: (Personal conspiracy theory: Lee is Jonathan Nolan’s fictional version of Christopher Nolan.). That would actually be hilarious if true.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 5 December 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

i understand why they do it but honestly this show is not worth the time to read a thinkpiece, let alone write one.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 December 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

I thought that was fun!

The plotting and character motivation is such a weird mix of dense overplotting vs. let's make this up as we go along

But overall, pretty good!

HBO should just go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Basically, I really enjoyed all the violence and the existential stuff was a bit snoozy

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

there was some extra violence after the credits in case you missed it

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

found this excruciatingly drawn out though. Predictably enough, the overexplaining that was required to make sure everyone got the multiple timelines thing just killed the episode dead

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for the post-credits tip!

schwantz, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

go the whole hog and give Verhoeven a TV show though

Sadly, I think Verhoeven is done w/ working in the USA.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Trying to work up enough frustration and annoyance for some mid-level internet outrage but I got nothing. Was hoping that Maeve would have at least taken the monorail outside (big reveal: a planetoid city or something) before succumbing to the oldest plot device in the book. I hope season two is entirely Samurai World - hell, every season should be a different world.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 08:20 (seven years ago) link

I suspect their budget doesn't stretch to showing the outside world

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link

THere have been a couple of photographs shown for very short stretches that were taken in the normal world but mocking up a photograph is presumably a heck of a lot cheaper than making a set or the effects for an actor to act in.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link

I thought the seemingly endless elevator ride down to the trains worked as a decent teaser of what the outside world might be.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that was intriguing!

kinder, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

Isn't that just because the facility is at the top of a mesa

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

They were already down on whichever level that has shared infrastructure with Samurai World

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

Still down to the terminal

http://www.inverse.com/amp/article/22284-westworld-delos-map-mesa-gold

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

Finally finished the episode

I don't know why you guys were calling it Eastworld when there was clearly an SW logo

I was really hoping to see an old drunk Logan turn up at the reception

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link

I tried twice to finish E9 and could NOT MAKE IT

Which I took as a sign

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link

This isn't back til 2018 btw

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

Scene with the blonde replicant hiding, then moving her eyes, then kicking ass was pure Pris

calstars, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

so I've always shut this off right when the credits start but I noticed this episode had a post-credit sequence with the Charlize Theron tattoo-bot ripping her own arm off. Did the other episode have scenes at the end?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link


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