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Sorry but not finding the Maalouf too exciting.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 4 December 2016 16:41 (three years ago) link

I also really like the emphatic quality of the strings on the Oum Kalthoum Alf Lyla recording (I was thinking "strident" but then I listened again and it's not quite strident). And the bent notes on electric guitar, few though they are.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 06:21 (three years ago) link

You watnt to do a contemporary instrumental of a Baligh Hamdi song? Maybe you should try some sort of maximalist electric and electronic approach. (Not that there aren't some good melodies that can be worked with in a fairly straight form, but I think maybe the emphasis should be on worked with, rather than just following the way the songs play out when sung.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 06:28 (three years ago) link

جددت حبك ليه / Gadedt Hobak Leh.


This kind of goes on and on but it's wonderful. In recordings from this time period, the sound of her voice as such is often enough to keep me absorbed. I think my CD copy of a version of it has a transliteration that includes an unpronounceably consonant-laden initial word.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 December 2016 05:38 (three years ago) link

Fun concert footage of Howwa Sahih, partly for all the audience shots. I'm guessing this is an Egyptian audience because while they are certainly engaged, they also seem kind of relaxed, not like the over the top audiences she often had when she toured other countries.


_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 December 2016 06:10 (three years ago) link

The oudist sitting behind her is Mohamed El Qasabji, who composed so many of her early songs, but stayed with her orchestra well past the point he was still writing for her.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 December 2016 06:17 (three years ago) link

It's also a pretty straight delivery of a song she can be heard to play around with a lot more in other recordings I linked to above. It seems like there is a little more emphasis here on delivering the text, and less focus on tarab, to the extent I can make that sort of judgment without even being able to understand the words.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 December 2016 06:32 (three years ago) link

(And I wanted to go to bed early but I might just stay up and listen to the rest of this.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 December 2016 06:33 (three years ago) link

Well, this is good:


_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 December 2016 05:37 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This looks like it's a playlist entirely devoted to Ya Zalamny but I haven't heard most of it yet. Paradise on earth. If I saw it before, why has it taken me this long to get to it.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 9 January 2017 02:29 (three years ago) link

Woo Hoo!

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:23 (three years ago) link

The fourth performance on that playlist has some phenomenal instrumental soloing toward the end. It's great to hear some of the key accompanists stretch out more than they often have the chance to do. The concert ends up feeling very distinctive. Crowd is completely nuts.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 05:54 (three years ago) link

The oudist almost never takes solos, and here he is laying down this amazing takasim.

Needles to say, she had nothing but the best musicians in her orchestra, especially in lead roles.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 05:57 (three years ago) link

This fifth performance, she is messing with the audience's head early on. I think she's working in an unexpected modulation to a different maqam, but not even during an unmetered section where improvisation is more expected. Really interesting stuff. I wasn't as taken with the second and third performances on this playlist.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:15 (three years ago) link

This is fantastic.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:18 (three years ago) link



_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:39 (three years ago) link


_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:40 (three years ago) link

I don't know if this excerpt is from a concert posted in complete form elsewhere. It's hard to explain why some of this is so amazing. If you aren't familiar with the song (I'm still listening through the Ya Zalamny playlist linked to above), it would probably be more difficult to hear it. The pauses/breaks are quite distinctive.


_Rudipherous_, Monday, 16 January 2017 05:21 (three years ago) link

Sahran Lewahdi with what I guess are shortwave radio (or some kind of radio) noises mixed in here and there!


Ney solo + woooOOOOoooo of scifi radio bubble sounds.

Good performance too.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 05:43 (three years ago) link

Good entry point for fans of early electronic music.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 05:44 (three years ago) link

ولد الهدى Woleda el Hoda (Oulida el Hoda)



_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 22 January 2017 00:20 (three years ago) link

I noticed that in some of the 50s recordings, the percussion jumps out, at least at times, more than in later recordings. I like it. It might particularly be drew of the religiously-themed material (like the song above).

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 22 January 2017 00:24 (three years ago) link

I don't understand why there aren't more performances of "Habibi Yes`ed Awqatu" (حبيبى يسعد اوقاته). I think that is one of her greatest songs. It's one of the first ones I really liked. The Palestinian who helped me get oriented in Arabic music was surprised that I singled that one out, as he said he had only recently come to appreciate it (and perhaps music by Zakaria Ahmed from that era in general).

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 22 January 2017 04:16 (three years ago) link

Haven't finished with this, but so far it's yet another extraordinary performance of Robaeyat El Khayam:


_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 28 January 2017 06:57 (three years ago) link

Like the lines are different channels she is switching between, always on, but only heard one at a time.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:33 (three years ago) link

I somehow forgot about the Robaeyat El Khayam playlist (on Nizar Nasser's channel) before. This is high priority hear-before-I-die material.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 30 January 2017 04:50 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Studio version of Robaeyat el Khayam. I've never heard this before:


_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:56 (three years ago) link

Relationship of accompaniment to vocal line is quite different in places. 22:25-22:40. Those heavy flourishes from the accompaniment. Sounds odd to me. Anyway, I've never noticed any live versions that stick to that. Maybe it's there and I just haven't noticed. But it almost has to be more subtle if it hasn't jumped out in the same way, so it would still be different to a degree.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 23 February 2017 04:54 (three years ago) link

Odd how there is a slow instrumental conclusion to the performance. In live performance the real ending is always with her last climactic vocal closure.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 23 February 2017 05:09 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

A very strong Shams El Aseel:


_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 2 April 2017 04:03 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

One of the best songs written for her in the 60s, Aqolak Eh An El Shouq:


_Rudipherous_, Monday, 22 May 2017 02:54 (three years ago) link

Longer than the standard recording, and I'm pretty sure it's from a different concert. Some of the ornamentation on the lead violin's lines in the beginning isn't there in this one, if I'm not mistaken. I should know for sure, but it's not something I've listened to all that recently.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 22 May 2017 02:56 (three years ago) link

Takes her accompaniment a long time to realize she is going to repeat the verses she just sang, rather than move on, at: 5:47. Maybe her kanunist missed a cue.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:15 (three years ago) link

"Ela Arafat Allah," in a similar style as Nahj el Borda and Oulida al Hoda:


_Rudipherous_, Friday, 26 May 2017 00:26 (three years ago) link

Youtube is placing an add in the middle. Man, is that annoying. I am hoping that will go away if I play as embedded video.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 26 May 2017 00:27 (three years ago) link

"Ela Arafat Allah" is so good.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 May 2017 16:21 (three years ago) link

Kinda bugs me, that with her deserved fame, her name is still "mother of Kalthoum". Her birthname, btw, is Fātimah ʾIbrāhīm as-Sayyid al-Biltāǧī.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 29 May 2017 16:36 (three years ago) link

I guess you know that Umm Kulthum was one of the companions of the Prophet, so it's got a certain cachet in that cultural context.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 May 2017 23:23 (three years ago) link

I don't know the history of how the subject of this thread ended up with that name though. I don't remember if I've ever read an explanation.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 May 2017 23:24 (three years ago) link

I can also see how the name's background doesn't necessarily make it any less annoying that her name is mother of somebody or other.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 01:34 (three years ago) link

40s and 50s songs are generally so much better. There are a few exceptions, but really just a few as far as I'm concerned. *eating a handful of Ajwa dates*

I love that Spotify has a bunch of her "singles" in chronological order now. There are some difficult songs with difficult titles that I've always had trouble keeping track of. This helps.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 03:57 (three years ago) link

I mean, a lot of the later material has fantastic and memorable melodies but the songs don't work as well as vehicles for her singing.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 04:03 (three years ago) link

"taking a [vocal] line out for a walk"

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:53 (three years ago) link

Another Saturday with El Sett, coming later, once I'm more awake.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 June 2017 16:31 (three years ago) link

If the single-digit humidity doesn't kill me.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 17 June 2017 16:34 (three years ago) link

I made an Oum Kalthoum playlist. Nothing special, just my favorite songs as available on Spotify. (There are some crucial, commercially available live recordings missing from Spotify.)


_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:14 (three years ago) link

I actually feel guilty it's so short, but I was being very selective. I might add some later songs eventually. If they had a good live Hazihi Leylati. . . Or maybe if they had the studio Inta Omri. . . The beginning of Baid Anak is stunning, but I do think it goes on too long, with too many audience-demanded repetitions of sections that don't actually help.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:19 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

I haven't watched this yet, but the introduction alone is mind-blowing. Nasser arrives with his security detail/entourage, at one point.


Domtek is either a great new channel or one I had missed previously.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:58 (two years ago) link

I don't really love Amal Hayati though.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 4 December 2017 00:22 (two years ago) link

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