Car Seat Headrest--Teens of Denial

oh it's totally a shame - but it is also a pretty handy tool

I'm still buying cds and lps, but Spotify lets me do some cool explorative listening

anyway, I'm voting for Burial's new ep in this poll I'm running, but since it's "only" on Bandcamp (can't even put it on a Youtube playlist) I'm not sure many of the other voters will give it a listen

I'm still buying cds and lps, but Spotify lets me do some cool explorative listening

same

it would be cool if bandcamp let you make playlists

listening to it again today i've gone off it again somewhat

this is the musical equivalent of alt-lit

courtney barnett is on spotify though??? and she def 'broke through' this last year or so

are you guys talking about the new thee oh sees or the newer thee oh sees? they are both great

this thread is making me want to give this another try now

Xpost: Courtney is now in there but same as kanye, took like 9 months to get her album there.

Also her song "Avant Gardener" which was sort of her breakthrough song (best new song in p4k if that means anything) was released in mid 2013 and it most definitely wasn't in Spotify until late 2015. Is there a way to check when Spotify added each album?

listening to this now and really into it. the end of "not what i needed" is kind of a blatant rip-off of their own "something soon" -- but it works, so i'm fine with it

whoa "drunk driver/killer whales" is good shit

yeah, it really is. "joe gets kicked out of school for doing drugs" is the other highlight for me.

man i'm all in on this. these songs could be 20 minutes for all i care. "ballad of the costa concordia" is killing me rn

This record eventually grew on me, but I agree that it's a crawler sometimes. I think I prefer Teens of Style. "Something Soon" one was of my favorite tracks of last year.

This is ok! It's just that weird thing they do (like w Tapes N Tapes and others) where they take a perfectly decent middle of the bill indie band that could be from anytown USA and act like it's super remarkable...but that doesn't make it bad. This is like a friend's band that you could genuinely enjoy and even listen to the cd sometimes

this band is on Matador

Yah I know

ums otm

as I said I only liked 2 songs on the album enough to keep on rotation and find it mostly of note because of its "promise" and the timbre of the guys voice, yet I don't like the 'could just be your friend's band' line of attack. can any guitar indie rock band make "super remarkable" music, iyo? in LJ's case i understand, cuz he has a well-known preference for ott yelpy artfuck. like, "a friend's band that you could genuinely enjoy and even listen to the cd sometimes", isn't that all we're looking for?

i was mostly agreeing with the premise that this isn't terrible - for all that it's a big indie event album i think it has some humility and awareness of its limitations coded in. like, i won't give it more than 6/10 but if it came on in public i'd probably nod fondly. we do need stuff like that

I guess I saw my post as a defense in a thread where a lot of people were shitting on it, not an attack. Like it's good solid indie rock of the type I've spent a lot of my life seeing...buy also i really do have friends that have made as good or better than this.

part of the attraction here must be cult of personality. i can't quite put my finger on what makes mr. will toledo so charismatic and magnetic, completely apart from his work, but it's definitely there.

I need to remind myself that Matador put out the first Unsane album.

Weird, I forgot that, they seem so Am Rep, but that wasn't until the third album and then they were on relapse, so wikipedia tells me

How are so many people in this thread defending this band name

Talkin' shit about Dan Bejar in this Billboard profile:

The indie circuit in particular attracts a certain type of artist that has talent but, also, attitude problems. It’s a circuit where artists can basically choose exactly how popular they want to be, and, sometimes, they’ll choose to alienate people rather than try to make it work on a larger level.

Do you have anyone in mind?

I don’t want to criticize artists, but I think like maybe someone like Dan Bejar. I really like a lot of his material, but I remember reading [an interview] where he was saying that the first New Pornographers record was shaping up to be a really big deal, so he knew that he didn’t want to be involved in that and started his own thing. It’s like come on, why can’t it be about the music. If it’s good music you shouldn’t throw it away just for the sake of your own reputation. Growing up I saw the romantic figure of the maverick musician who isn’t down to play industry games and will get successful by accident, then spend their careers messing with the heads of the industry and the audience. There was certainly an appeal to that, and then I grew up and started personally encountering artists who had this attitude. And they’re shitty people.

ums otm this is friend's band indie rock as generic as it comes. just listened to 4 songs and the effect was making me want to listen to Pavement.

Otm. After listening to it yesterday I just ended up listening to Stephen Malkmus.

I don't completely hate it, but I definitely think we don't need any more music like this.

I like this band but the early lo-fi DIY was much more weird, peculiar and interesting. Now he has a proper band behind him, his music is a bit less inspired and ordinary. A lot of the tracks are needlessly long too. "Drunk driver/Killer whales" and "Drugs with friends" are good tunes tho

that quote in billboard is so profoundly stupid.

also i gave this album a concerted shot driving around today and it actually kinda sucks, the songs aren't catchy and the performances are not good at all.

/mu/ was where his early albums first got attention & a fanbase built up there but he's denied ever posting there fwiw

i enjoy most of this but mostly because it fills a specific indie rock comfort food niche. the flaws are pretty obvious though

i'd like to see him do better but i guess it's a bit worrying that he still hasn't figured out track lengths, it's a big issue with everything he's done.

Love the record and the overlong tracks, it is part of the charm.

Yeah I think you people who don't like this record need to get your ears checked! Cause this is an excellent record, particularly the song Unforgiving Girl.

Otm. After listening to it yesterday I just ended up listening to Stephen Malkmus.

I don't completely hate it, but I definitely think we don't need any more music like this.

I should resist the urge to comment, but this could be the single silliest post I have seen on ILM this decade. Why does guitar rock get attacked for even existing? Could you imagine the outrage if someone said the same thing about a new rapper or dance band? "I tried but started listening to Public Enemy. We don't need any more music like that."

People would be livid and rightly so.

fwiw I've met Dan Bejar and he's super nice

Also, I'd take Bejar's worst song a hundred times over a minute of music by this corny indie twerp

I like Dan Bejar and Car Seat Headrest.

I like nachos

Fair enough but I don't think we need food like nachos anymore

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Well...false equivalence and all that, but to address your first point - I'm not attacking guitar rock, just crushingly mediocre guitar rock.

No nachos? If someone said that about vegetables people would be livid.

another night on the message booooooard

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so livid rn

i am also feeling livid

livid is way too vivid for the mehness of contempo grrtarro

so terribly lame to mention bejar by name

Do I need to repost this guy's episode of Amoeba's What's In My Bag?

just watched it. it's really not that bad

come on man

he's just a shy guy who likes indie signifiers with an annoying voice

Fair enough but I don't think we need food like nachos anymore

― Treeship

i like nachos, but i don't think we need a new nacho recipe that tastes just like all the other nachos i've eaten in my life. like, your nacho recipe has 12% more green onions than the nachos at chili's? well sign me the fuck up.

I always "need" new music, because music's not like food. when you're hungry any food tastes good. bad music doesn't sound good when you're starved for music. also, I like nachos, but I eat nachos maybe twice a year. when I like a song, I listen to it a million times in a week and then effectively discard it. then, every once in a while, when reminded of it, I'll put it back in rotation for a bit. I'm not just like "well, i have 75 Pavement songs, guess I'll never need another indie rock band again because I can just listen to these ad nauseum" it doesn't work like that