Pazz and Jop.

did not expect to get a ballot from someone I know from ifmud

"Welcome to the Village Voice's annual Music Critics Poll (formerly known as Pazz + Jop)"

RIP Pazz + Jop

Why would you fuck with the name? Especially for generic ass one?

"NFL Annual Championship Game Between the American and National Football Conferences"

Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.

what that means

Good for them. "Pazz and Jop" is a fucking terrible name.

Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.

― curmudgeon, Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whereas the hip marketing person is strutting around like 'Pazz! Jop! Zappatypow! Hoobalooba! Ramalama shakkow! Zump! Haha'

i agree that pazz & jop was always an awful name

it had a shred or two of character though

who gives a fuck about the annual Music Critics Poll

Yeah, if anything, now it sounds LESS interesting.

anyway i have no idea how i'm still getting invited to participate, i haven't done any music writing in years and i could've sworn there was a point where they were like "please resubmit your credentials" or w/e, maybe not

I voted for either 2 years or maybe 3 years in the mid-00s, and then one year nobody sent me a ballot and I never bothered to find out why because I'm lazy. And now it's been a really long time since I've written anything anywhere.

Is there a VV contact more responsive and/or less inundated than the generic address through which the ballots are sent? Trying to get a colleague added to the mix.

Neil deMause, the Special features editor is listed on the email that was sent out but not his email

His about page just gives a form link to send messages to a general box I think

http://www.villagevoice.com/about/contact?to=6731940

deadline in 4 hours

submitted an hour late because I suck, hope it's counted

I submitted late too. Nous verons.

perhaps it will be for the best if it isn't counted, I forgot to put swan song series on it

Heck, I forgot to *listen* to Swan Song Series. It's not every year Tanya Donelly and Kristin Hersh both release insanely long albums, and I barely got to either :(

Results tomorrow?

No, it'll be in the 1/25 issue this year.

Two more weeks, gotcha.

So we won't be able to put P+J placings in the tracks poll images? What a disaster for tradition :(

a liberation more like, let's excise p4k while we're at it

done.

RIP, ILM

Hallelujah!

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop

David Bowie- Blackstar tops the albums

and Beyoncé "Formation" tops the tracks

my comment about Tiwa Savage (featuring Dr. Sid) afropop/afrobeats track made it!

Maura, Greg Tate and SFJ have essays

Not Pazz & Jop 2016

So they didn't change the name.

I know this is even earlier, but there have been some... "developments" is exactly the opposite of the wrong word, at the Voice this year

so, uh, is this still happening

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:38 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pvmic

Last year's ballot showed up on Dec. 4.

i am also curious (p+j)

My sources say: Yes.

But voting may be a lot earlier than in past years, and for scheduling reasons I may not be involved...

why are the results for past polls impossible to find on the voice's site now?

when I want results I go here:
http://furia.com/pjs/ (Glenn's amazing site)

and here:
https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/

Thanks alpine! I told yall wrong about the date I got last year's ballot: Dec. 13, not Dec. 4. But I'll keep Glenn's xpost heads-up about the speed-up in mind.

If they move it up any more this year, that may well be the end of the road for me. The antiquarian notion that the year actually ends on Dec. 31 used to sync up well with my workaday life. The rush to get year-ends out earlier and earlier is just one more thing that makes no sense to me.

I think it has to do with people ceasing to care about last year once the new year has started.

Maybe--which is actually pretty weird, since the calendar year is such an artificial construct anyway. And it's also almost like giving out sports MVP awards with two weeks left to go in the season.

But I guess I prefer that to the idea that every publication is simply being driven by what every other publication does.

The truth is, I'm just looking at this in terms of my own participation and nothing else.

The antiquarian notion...

Found only in rare and expensive books, I guess--let's go with antiquated instead.

Unless I've been dropped from the list--something that should have happened 15 years ago, and since it didn't happen then, I'm not sure why it would happen now--I assume this is the end of Rico.

I've gotten nothing either.

Knowing nothing about how these things work, I always assumed it'd be the one thing that would remain till the last online edition--that it was one thing they could reasonably expect would generate some ad sales. I really am living in some 1987 time warp.

When it comes to the "media landscape," I mean. Mostly I live in a 1972 time warp.

Glenn, upthread, thought they would start earlier this year, but that hasn't happened.