Car Seat Headrest--Teens of Denial

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oh god

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

he's 24

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

i hate this record. once in a while it's pretty decent power pop but the songs are endless

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

I'm on the same boat... no sound dynamics at all... some good moments but no fun at all to be had.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

this............isn't bad

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

wtf

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

good band name, absolutely loathe what i've heard

splendor in the ASS (rip van wanko), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

the opening track was trite and melodically non-existent, the second track almost got a good groove going but faltered and forgot to go anywhere. since then there has generally been decent quality music. definitely turned from a hate-listen into something else, not sure what though

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

feels like this year's The Monitor (right down to an epic track equating emotional upheaval to a famous nautical event), and of comparable quality too

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

Cmon now this is not anywhere near the quality of The Monitor... but yeah I liked this well enough when I came across it earlier this year. Knocking round with 20-something North American blink-182 survivors recently sent me scrabbling around for potential common ground and this was pretty much the best we came up with. I liked the lyric about there being a Van Gogh picture on the wikipedia page for clinical depression because I checked it out and right enough, there is.
Could do to be ruthlessly trimmed down though. I like these sorts of albums 12 songs long (tick) but leave your cup in the sink and be out the back door within 32 minutes or so, this one still has it's feet up on my coffee table smoking all my cigarettes and ignoring my subtle hints to leave. 70mins... oh you had a shit time at college? Get tae fuck, I got grownup matters to attend to... like factchecking your shitty lyrics, yeah I know, I'm pathetic.
tbf The Monitor also suffered from this, yeah I don't think your breakup was QUITE on the scale of the American civil war OH IS THAT THE TIME? but I preferred their brand of overemoting for some reason. Maybe beard- and Springsteen- and alcohol-related reasons. Prolly just alcohol-related actually.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 3 December 2016 00:45 (seven years ago) link

iirc he was a /mu/ poster so his early championing came from there and i imagine some of his popularity comes from the ONE OF US mentality

just another (diamonddave85), Saturday, 3 December 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

i should like this stuff in theory but i just never really understood what he was trying to accomplish. it's like an indie rock equivalent of someone translating a book from english to french and then 100 years later someone else translating it back into english.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 December 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

iirc he was a /mu/ poster so his early championing came from there and i imagine some of his popularity comes from the ONE OF US mentality

.....oh

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 December 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah that explains things way better than the cult backstory

I do like a couple songs on this tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 3 December 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

the single version of "drunk drivers" released today is terrible. it loses all the charm and power of the album version.

Treeship, Saturday, 3 December 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

i agree with flopson, basically, about how this band is interesting mostly because they show a lot of potential.

i also get call all destroyer's complaint that these songs do seem like weird re-imaginings of not so long dead indie tropes that no one asked for and that feel much less natural than their source material. i kind of like this friction though. the album feels sealed off from the rest of 2016, like it's some album from 2004 that i missed somehow.

Treeship, Saturday, 3 December 2016 04:55 (seven years ago) link

it's like an indie rock equivalent of someone translating a book from english to french and then 100 years later someone else translating it back into English-speaking.

Actually if there was an actual indie rock album of this I would be well into it, that sounds awesome.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 3 December 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link

that was Blueberry Boat iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 3 December 2016 05:11 (seven years ago) link

i like the part where he takes acid and jesus shows up and calls him the "scum of the earth" after singing "ooooooooooooooooooooh"

Treeship, Saturday, 3 December 2016 05:12 (seven years ago) link

the songs are endless

True. And also why I disliked the War on Drugs album everyone shat themselves over.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 3 December 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

that one i at least get that "red eyes" song or whatever, that's a jam

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 December 2016 05:53 (seven years ago) link

It's not that they're endless, it's the dynamics, there's no tension and no 'groove'. The war on drugs comparison is otm but I found their songs more 'catchy' and at least there was a 'groove' to sone of their songs. I'm not sayig this record is awful but it's very unremarkable, certainly not worth the top album of the year hype it's getting amongst some critics. Meanwhile the Thee Oh Sees record which is actually good and sort of fit the same taste is getting better ignored.

I've no idea what the backstory for the band is but backstories are bullshit that make for cool trivia not cool music.

Moka, Saturday, 3 December 2016 08:23 (seven years ago) link

Autocorrect fucked pieces of my comment but I hope it makes sense.

Moka, Saturday, 3 December 2016 08:24 (seven years ago) link

Going off topic but I was just talking to a friend earlier about the influence of Spotify. We've noticed - and it might be a coincidence - that when a new album is not on Spotify it tampers its "influence". Thee Oh Sees album is not on spotify, per example, and almost noone is talking about it but those that have heard it (and are into that sort of music, obviously) love it. In previous years I noticed it happened with Courtney Barnett, there were some critics enthusiastic about her album, great scores overall but it sort of faded out. Another example is Kanye West this year... it seemed like a 'huge' event album, then there was the Tidal fiasco and people's interest in it sort of waned. Rihanna almost suffered the same fate but at least she had a memorable single to keep the album afloat.

Moka, Saturday, 3 December 2016 08:47 (seven years ago) link

that was Blueberry Boat iirc

"Buffer nabber binkity boo" isn't english no matter how many passes through babelfish it's had

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 3 December 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile the Thee Oh Sees record which is actually good and sort of fit the same taste is getting better ignored.

― Moka, Saturday, December 3, 2016 3:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Oh Sees also have the unfortunate luck of having been around a long time, and indie rock is increasingly fickle and obsessed with novelty. It's like seniority in reverse or something. Barring some cosmic coincidence (like a high profile collaboration and / or a scandal) I can almost guarantee this thread won't be revived when this dude releases an album in 2019.

Wimmels, Saturday, 3 December 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

I love that Oh Sees album and even I almost forgot to list it cause I was scanning my master 2016 Spotify playlist when I was making a list on another board

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

I guess that sorta proves Moka's point about Spotify

Wimmels, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

I'm running a poll with some friends and I'm p sure tracks off Spotify will do worse than those on

the game is rigged

niels, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

That's a shame. I realize I'm a relic but I'm still surprised by the amount of people who use Spotify that I would never expect to use Spotify. Last week I was at a record store and I asked what was playing and the dude actually said "You know, I don't know - it's Spotify." Sigh

Wimmels, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

oh it's totally a shame - but it is also a pretty handy tool

I'm still buying cds and lps, but Spotify lets me do some cool explorative listening

anyway, I'm voting for Burial's new ep in this poll I'm running, but since it's "only" on Bandcamp (can't even put it on a Youtube playlist) I'm not sure many of the other voters will give it a listen

niels, Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

I'm still buying cds and lps, but Spotify lets me do some cool explorative listening

same

it would be cool if bandcamp let you make playlists

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 3 December 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

listening to it again today i've gone off it again somewhat

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

this is the musical equivalent of alt-lit

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

courtney barnett is on spotify though??? and she def 'broke through' this last year or so

are you guys talking about the new thee oh sees or the newer thee oh sees? they are both great

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

this thread is making me want to give this another try now

ciderpress, Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

Xpost: Courtney is now in there but same as kanye, took like 9 months to get her album there.

Moka, Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Also her song "Avant Gardener" which was sort of her breakthrough song (best new song in p4k if that means anything) was released in mid 2013 and it most definitely wasn't in Spotify until late 2015. Is there a way to check when Spotify added each album?

Moka, Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

listening to this now and really into it. the end of "not what i needed" is kind of a blatant rip-off of their own "something soon" -- but it works, so i'm fine with it

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

whoa "drunk driver/killer whales" is good shit

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it really is. "joe gets kicked out of school for doing drugs" is the other highlight for me.

Treeship, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

man i'm all in on this. these songs could be 20 minutes for all i care. "ballad of the costa concordia" is killing me rn

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

This record eventually grew on me, but I agree that it's a crawler sometimes. I think I prefer Teens of Style. "Something Soon" one was of my favorite tracks of last year.

Chantilly Bass, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

This is ok! It's just that weird thing they do (like w Tapes N Tapes and others) where they take a perfectly decent middle of the bill indie band that could be from anytown USA and act like it's super remarkable...but that doesn't make it bad. This is like a friend's band that you could genuinely enjoy and even listen to the cd sometimes

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

this band is on Matador

flopson, Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

Yah I know

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 December 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

ums otm

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

as I said I only liked 2 songs on the album enough to keep on rotation and find it mostly of note because of its "promise" and the timbre of the guys voice, yet I don't like the 'could just be your friend's band' line of attack. can any guitar indie rock band make "super remarkable" music, iyo? in LJ's case i understand, cuz he has a well-known preference for ott yelpy artfuck. like, "a friend's band that you could genuinely enjoy and even listen to the cd sometimes", isn't that all we're looking for?

flopson, Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link

i was mostly agreeing with the premise that this isn't terrible - for all that it's a big indie event album i think it has some humility and awareness of its limitations coded in. like, i won't give it more than 6/10 but if it came on in public i'd probably nod fondly. we do need stuff like that

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

I guess I saw my post as a defense in a thread where a lot of people were shitting on it, not an attack. Like it's good solid indie rock of the type I've spent a lot of my life seeing...buy also i really do have friends that have made as good or better than this.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 December 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link

omg just make out already

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

Those Boys

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

Anyway, while I can't help but wonder what happened in his life that he ended up like this in the first place, I wish LJ well in his quest to convince the entire internet to kiss his arse, I really do.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

(Not holding my breath, though.)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

I <3 a good Britfight

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link


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