the thing i like abt the article sund4r linked -- probably bcz it slightly overlaps with an idea i'd half-articulated further up -- is that the items targeted by reactionaries in this sense bcz they can be identified as guilty pleasures, bcz pricey or luxury or fancy or show-offy or performative or virtue-signalling in some sense: they are actually quite widely enjoyed but can somehow also be disavowed as a marker of social identity ("i've eaten lettuce but i'm not a LETTUCE-MUNCHING TYPE")
so the accusation lands right on a spot that many people will instantly draw back from -- not bcz they themselves dislike the item (far from it) but bcz they don't want to be caught being the thing it represents
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
cockle butties
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
is what roy keane eats obv
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
i just bought a cappuccino out of a machine at the bong store next door. one dollar. in honor of this thread. dollar cappuccinos from the pakistani-run bong store what this great country is all about in my opinion.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
are these the same people who "knit their own yogurt" or is that a hippie subset?
"Avenues type" if you're from round here.
― thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link
Wasn't there a minor hoohah about Cameron (remember him?) eating a burger with a knife and fork?
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
btw lex said what I was going to say re falafel/houmous/clueless whites but that reminds me to remind the thread that the influence of shit comedians in keeping the "I have run out of houmous #mostmiddleclasssentenceever #britishproblems" idiocy alive is as much a factor as that of shit columnists. Russell Kane is probably saying something about houmous right this very moment somewhere
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
xp I can only recall the time he misremembered eating a pastie in Leeds station
― ogmor, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
cameron's was a hotdog-related implement-gaffe:http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB_t2F6VIAExfZh.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
if you fuck with houmous you fuck with me
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
more greggs-related political fun: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/kezia-dugdale-calls-for-return-of-macaroni-pie-1-3811092
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
okay forkhotdog makes me mad and I'm a latte-drinking coastal elite xps
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
I'm literally drinking a latte right now
feel like burger with k&f would be acceptable, so many burgers are stupidly too big to eat as the sandwiches they are anyway
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
I recall someone saying that anyone who has only eaten houmous outside of the middle east/Isreal doesn't know what it really is. It was some dude who wrote a book about houmous talking on R4.
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
(hotdog thing is a strange life choice for sure xp)
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
politicians should probably not eat in public -- none of them seem to know how to do it
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
i hate to say it but a lot of the attitudes in this country can be traced to my hero george carlin. he had a large cult of morning radio hosts who loved to rant about the latte people. george was really good at it though.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
he was a good writer. that helped. now you get that generic "latte-swilling, kale-munching, home-schooling, etc..."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
hot dog with a knife and fork is p outrageous but sadly difficult to compress into the pithy x-y'ing format.
the classic wes streeting distaste for 'trendy falafel bars' obviously says more of him being out of touch with the common man than it does of anyone else, since the usual term for 'trendy falafel bar' is 'kebab shop'.
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
i would kill for a trendy falafel bar in my town!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
Oh, hm, "home-schooling" mostly calls to mind fundamentalist Christians for me. I think those were the only home-schooled people I knew.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
effete middle class professionals only quaff prosecco these days surely
― self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
i think they are still into the whole "mixology" thing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link
#smallbatchbitters
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0583/0433/products/6004_lg_1024x1024.jpg?v=1414968089
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
easily explained by the fact that they're all secretly 12-foot-tall babyeating reptoids iirc
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
when I was in the Netherlands the other day these beered-up Dutch #lads were bounding towards the takeaway I was standing outside chanting FALAFEL FALAFEL like you might expect a British counterpart to enthuse about cheeky Nandos. enjoyed it
― The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
the brunch munching, how to white supremacy well listening middle classes
― self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
No results found for "skyr-swilling"
You heard it here first.
On a related tip disappointingly "muesli-eating" seems to have vanished from common usage as an insult. Though this quote by Labour MP Kevin Hughes from 2001 manages to get the trifecta of yogurt, muesli and Guardian readers: "Don't you find it bizarre, like I do, that the yoghurt-eating, muesli-eating, Guardian-reading fraternity are only too happy to want to protect the human rights of people who engage in terrorist acts?"
Shame he couldn't shoehorn "sandal wearing" in too.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Great thread: cf John Shuttleworth's cappucino references from back in the 90s
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
as an american, i find the notion that any deep-fried food could possibly be considered "elitist" to be nothing short of bizarre.
― xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link
Lol, eating yogourt has class associations in the UK?
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link
Not that I'm aware of. Maybe in 1932.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
I think it veers through time, am pretty sure Steptoe-era sitcoms used yogurt as a class signifier
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
that just reminds me of ian mackaye's ice cream-eating motherfuckers taunt
― Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
What always makes me smile in threads like this is how subtle/regional class signifiers are, not that people think they don't exist because they aren't aware of them
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
Greek yogurt has blown up in recent years.
Basing this entirely on me buying it a lot more.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
Nah, definitely a "sophistication" signifier for the last 2 or 3 years
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link
i was waiting my whole life for greek yogurt apparently. love it. in the 90's all i could get was Erivan yogurt. still want a trendy falafel place though.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
It certainly makes a good khorma, and is just lush with honey. You can get a tub of Greek Yoghurt and a bag of Kale in my local Co-op for a not very petit bourgeois price of just under 2 quid.
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
btw lex said what I was going to say re falafel/houmous/clueless whites but that reminds me to remind the thread that the influence of shit comedians in keeping the "I have run out of houmous #mostmiddleclasssentenceever #britishproblems" idiocy alive is as much a factor as that of shit columnists. Russell Kane is probably saying something about houmous right this very moment somewhere― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:52 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:52 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No lie, a few posts into this thread and all I could think of was Russell Kane shrieking 'CoriANDER!!!!'Think this was from about a decade ago and it's clearly annoyed me ever since
― kinder, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Tbf he's a cunt
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
surely not
― kinder, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
Remember the irst time I came across this kind of thing and it was a piece Michael Crick did around one of the Labour party conf (early 00s but could easily be wrong by five years either side) and he was playing with this awful Blairite activist who said something dumb around mushy peas.
Recently came across that Orwell fragment when quoted by Michael Deacon on twitter iirc and Orwell is totally the fuel these ppl consume when spouting this guff (but I suppose its much wider given the US dimension I am seeing but don't have time right now to process). I suspect Orwell has had an incredibly destructive effect on British politics that is being felt in a partic way at this very moment. I've got to read that Raymond Williams book on him to think about this.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
the godawful right-wing comic strip mallard fillmore was like 50 percent "jokes" about liberals sipping lattes. it was almost kind of impressive how many latte-related ideas the guy managed to come up with.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Muscular Labourarity is an unfortunate legacy that Orwell has left for right wing cocks in denial
― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link
it seems wrong that politically bad drinking ranges from sipping via quaffing and slurping to swilling but politically bad eating features only munching
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
Omg
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
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― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link
nibbling! good call
(tho nail-nibbling does not strictly speaking belong with the others)
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link