"croissant-munching, latte-sipping": instances of misconceived media-class self-loathing ITT

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ie people for whom the above photo of Desperate Dan loads quickly xp

There was a NYT article about this a couple of years ago.

I'm mostly a cappuccino guy but I'll admit that it does feel a bit decadent to spend $3-$4 on a nice espresso/steamed milk combination. It's a treat once or twice a week, and you have to get it at the right place or else it's a total waste..

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great thread.

eating habits are so frequently held as being of moral & social import, as they are fundamental and easily controlled, but it is interesting that a lot of right-wing conformist disdain operates on this level. reminds me of the research claiming that strong involuntary physiological reactions of disgust correlate with being more right-wing.

At least in the US and Canada, McDonald's sells lattés at this point (although I don't know why anyone would buy a latté at McDonald's).

perhaps this is what all this noise comes down to: the distrust of anyone whose ethics or politics transcend the reality of gut-feelings

Lattés are relatively easy on the gut, unless you're talking about some kind of butterscotch maple pumpkin spice concoction.

Only Commies drink those.

private-schooled murphy

"eating habits are so frequently held as being of moral & social import"

i always figured the flip side of nu-coffee habits (as opposed to being called a snob for buying a three dollar coffee or whatever) is you get to hold a 1000 calorie sugar snack in your hand and it's socially acceptable. like, people might make fun of you if you were holding 4 twinkies in your hand. but a triple cookie crunch mocha with whipped cream is totally okay. stealth junk! hey, i dig it.

Yeah, I'm never sure if people are talking about people who drink espresso with steamed milk or people who drink those garbage dessert lattés, or people who care about the difference. Because #2 deserve to be mocked.

the article sund4r linked to relates the political disdain to the issue of needless luxury rather than difficulty of taste

on the list matt put up, the main associations seem to be vegetarianism and slimming, both often assumed -- ie by orwell -- to be a crankish (and sometimes pricey) moralism, but this hardly applies to lattes

it certainly isn't outlander food: indian and chinese food aren't stigmatised in the UK, kebabs maybe are a bit (but not as lefty or posh)

"hygge-munching"

^^^only has one google link so far, to a site explicitly dedicated to hygge: WATCH THIS SPACE I GUESS

If you order coffee in South India, a latte/cappuccino is more or less what they give you.

"gløgg-swilling" also only has one entry currently

someone shit (jk rowling maybe) shared that orgoodwise quote as proof that corbyn is bad

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/img/l/lunch-asda-prawn-mayo-sandwich.jpg

multi-millionaire roy keane characterising people in hospitality boxes as not living 'in the real world' and 'eating prawn sandwiches'

Roy Keane may be many things but he has certainly never been a member of the metropolitan liberal elite.

yeah it's not the same but maybe a similar thing transposed to the oafish world of no-nonsense football yeomanry

the thing i like abt the article sund4r linked -- probably bcz it slightly overlaps with an idea i'd half-articulated further up -- is that the items targeted by reactionaries in this sense bcz they can be identified as guilty pleasures, bcz pricey or luxury or fancy or show-offy or performative or virtue-signalling in some sense: they are actually quite widely enjoyed but can somehow also be disavowed as a marker of social identity ("i've eaten lettuce but i'm not a LETTUCE-MUNCHING TYPE")

so the accusation lands right on a spot that many people will instantly draw back from -- not bcz they themselves dislike the item (far from it) but bcz they don't want to be caught being the thing it represents

cockle butties

is what roy keane eats obv

i just bought a cappuccino out of a machine at the bong store next door. one dollar. in honor of this thread. dollar cappuccinos from the pakistani-run bong store what this great country is all about in my opinion.

are these the same people who "knit their own yogurt" or is that a hippie subset?

"Avenues type" if you're from round here.

Wasn't there a minor hoohah about Cameron (remember him?) eating a burger with a knife and fork?

btw lex said what I was going to say re falafel/houmous/clueless whites but that reminds me to remind the thread that the influence of shit comedians in keeping the "I have run out of houmous #mostmiddleclasssentenceever #britishproblems" idiocy alive is as much a factor as that of shit columnists. Russell Kane is probably saying something about houmous right this very moment somewhere

xp I can only recall the time he misremembered eating a pastie in Leeds station

cameron's was a hotdog-related implement-gaffe:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB_t2F6VIAExfZh.jpg

if you fuck with houmous you fuck with me

more greggs-related political fun: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/kezia-dugdale-calls-for-return-of-macaroni-pie-1-3811092

okay forkhotdog makes me mad and I'm a latte-drinking coastal elite xps

I'm literally drinking a latte right now

feel like burger with k&f would be acceptable, so many burgers are stupidly too big to eat as the sandwiches they are anyway

I recall someone saying that anyone who has only eaten houmous outside of the middle east/Isreal doesn't know what it really is. It was some dude who wrote a book about houmous talking on R4.

(hotdog thing is a strange life choice for sure xp)

politicians should probably not eat in public -- none of them seem to know how to do it

i hate to say it but a lot of the attitudes in this country can be traced to my hero george carlin. he had a large cult of morning radio hosts who loved to rant about the latte people. george was really good at it though.

he was a good writer. that helped. now you get that generic "latte-swilling, kale-munching, home-schooling, etc..."

hot dog with a knife and fork is p outrageous but sadly difficult to compress into the pithy x-y'ing format.

the classic wes streeting distaste for 'trendy falafel bars' obviously says more of him being out of touch with the common man than it does of anyone else, since the usual term for 'trendy falafel bar' is 'kebab shop'.

i would kill for a trendy falafel bar in my town!

Oh, hm, "home-schooling" mostly calls to mind fundamentalist Christians for me. I think those were the only home-schooled people I knew.

effete middle class professionals only quaff prosecco these days surely

i think they are still into the whole "mixology" thing.

#smallbatchbitters

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politicians should probably not eat in public -- none of them seem to know how to do it

easily explained by the fact that they're all secretly 12-foot-tall babyeating reptoids iirc

when I was in the Netherlands the other day these beered-up Dutch #lads were bounding towards the takeaway I was standing outside chanting FALAFEL FALAFEL like you might expect a British counterpart to enthuse about cheeky Nandos. enjoyed it

the brunch munching, how to white supremacy well listening middle classes

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You heard it here first.

On a related tip disappointingly "muesli-eating" seems to have vanished from common usage as an insult. Though this quote by Labour MP Kevin Hughes from 2001 manages to get the trifecta of yogurt, muesli and Guardian readers: "Don't you find it bizarre, like I do, that the yoghurt-eating, muesli-eating, Guardian-reading fraternity are only too happy to want to protect the human rights of people who engage in terrorist acts?"

Shame he couldn't shoehorn "sandal wearing" in too.