can we pause to investigate whether or not in the very raising of this thread attacking tropes attacking tropes mark s is himself an example of a trope
i am obv in asking this performing a recognise trope attacking service and hiding behind any such accusation is not to be countenanced
― identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:10 (seven years ago) link
Also, I recall the fact that it was a bacon sandwich being made a very big deal of at the time - bacon butty, sandwich of the people, Ed cannot eat it look at him look at him.
So basically I read it as mostly iv but with a reasonable dose of i and a tiny bit of iii for those who are looking for it.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
can we pause to investigate whether or not having smelt it deems himself may have dealt it
― diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link
iirc Orwell took shots at fruit juice on a number of other occasions also. really had a problem with the stuff
― The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link
ah weird i never noticed the bacon part - i prob only came across this "story" via people's outrage about it on twitter so i missed whatever the tabloid's "point" was besides the photo.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
i had scrambled egg today and did not in any sense munch it
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
Miliband was otherised by the right wing press and some members of his own party for quite some time - "he looks weird", "he's a North London intellectual", "his father hated Britain", he was compared to the Child Catcher (an actual antisemitic caricature) by some dreadful Katie Hopkins-alike. The bacon sandwich can't be separated from all that.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
Yeah the sandwich being bacon-filled was mentioned too often for it not to be just 'face even weirder when eating'.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
yeah i don't dispute that - i never read the actual content around the sandwich, as i say, like many things, i probably wouldn't have heard about it if it wasn't for people who were annoyed about it sharing it on twitter.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
tbf to the tabloids and the fascists generally, if he had followed my mum's much-repeated rules on eating he would not have come to grief in this instance
a: "that bite was much to big! take smaller mouthfuls!" b: "keep your mouth closed when you're chewing!"
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link
If you have really poor quality bacon it can be difficult to take a clean bite no matter how small a bite you take.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link
theresa may eats only the finest british bacon, made from churchillian pigs.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was munching which”
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link
On the food theme, isn't there some alleged account of Peter Mandelson mistaking mushy peas for guacamole at a chippie in his constituency?
"Typical Guardian reader" is often thrown around as a pejorative term by peopel who I'm sure also read it.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
I love George Orwell, but I don't think that notorious passage does him much credit. Rereading it now, I am coming to think it is as bad as all the people who say it is bad have always thought.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link
sometimes guacamole IS MADE WITH PEAS
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link
Mandelson/guac story has also been attributed to Caprice and is presumably apocryphal
― The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- A political committee set up by Florida Gov. Rick Scott is criticizing the woman who shouted at him in a coffee shop and blasted his support of an anti-abortion law, saying she's a "latte liberal."
Video of the confrontation has been viewed more than 2 million times on YouTube and shows 39-year-old Cara Jennings calling the governor "an embarrassment to our state." She tells him her health care costs had increased because of his policies.
Scott replied that he has created 1 million jobs, before turning around and leaving the Starbucks before getting his coffee.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
xp was just coming to post about The Prince of Darkness and that apocryphal story about Hartlepool guacamole
― Neil S, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRx8-Hjlk0
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link
guacamole for Mandelson performed the same function as Bacon Sandwich-gate did for EMili: a chance to have a good sneer effete, out of touch, chattering class Hampstead liberals for other effete, out of touch Hampstead liberals AKA the gentlemen of the press
― Neil S, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link
brexiteers and jam
Jam also probably symbolises the battle against liberal PC do-gooders who won't let them have a golliwog on the jar any more, which must be the fault of the EU. Racist jam will make Britain great again.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link
"moet medics"^^^this seems a reach
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
"chardonnay-swilling" ^^^this seems to have undergone the social drift that croissant hasn't -- viz it used to mean the same as "champagne socialist" (and still does in eg australia?) but e.g. on mumsnet now means something a bit more TOWIE or WAG-ish
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link
great thread:https://twitter.com/WeWantPlates🔗people who go to shit restaurants complaining about their choice by criticising the perceived pretentiousness of the crap restaurants they CHOOSE TO GO TO, as if they've dipped their toe into a dimension that disgusts them, rather than being the only ones living in that dimension.
https://twitter.com/WeWantPlates🔗
people who go to shit restaurants complaining about their choice by criticising the perceived pretentiousness of the crap restaurants they CHOOSE TO GO TO, as if they've dipped their toe into a dimension that disgusts them, rather than being the only ones living in that dimension.
But but but this is a disease and it is spreading! You go to a place for years and then one day they bring out your burger on a fucking board! Betrayal.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link
Mandleson's guacamole faux pas is indeed apocryphal, according to Peter Bazalgette; I hadn't realised that Kinnock was involved in popularising the misconception
So, before I report on a tasting of guacamole, I have to deal with an urban myth: that the politician Peter Mandelson, visiting a northern chippie, asked for “some of that guacamole” when referring to the mushy peas. I have investigated this thoroughly and it turns out the real culprit was a young American intern. This was compounded when former Labour leader Neil Kinnock unkindly attributed the remark to m’lord Mandelson. That sorts that.
https://www.ft.com/content/7dea4d8e-6c6d-11e5-8171-ba1968cf791a
― soref, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
It's true about chardonnay. The last time I heard it mentioned was someone saying 'book clubs that get together and drink chardonnay'. What could be so wrong about that? (The implication was that it was a bit 'common' or something)
(Compare ILB club that gets together over Harvey's)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link
the culinary synecdoche
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
we call em frogs, they call us rosbifs
wikipeida is telling me that the Irish equivalent of champagne socialist/chardonnay socialist/gauche caviar etc is "smoked salmon socialist", can anyone confirm if this is true
― soref, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
"lambrini-swilling"
as in "labrini-swilling social hooligans"
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-09-06/new-bbc-comedy-motherland-has-the-realities-of-the-school-run-down-to-a-teeYou may think that middle-class mums (and dads) are everywhere – in life, in popular culture, blimey you may even be one yourself. But us quinoa-munching stalwarts of the school run haven’t had a sitcom of our own yet.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
further to my point abt my mum's opinions upthread, if ppl didn't "munch" or swill" but ate and drank nicely perhaps all this bigotry would vanish?
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
quaffing is also bad
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
starfish and coffee, brexiteers and jam
― Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
GQ UK went to that shop and reported that dry, crusty bread was to blame, declared the sandwich "difficult."
I'm reminded of John Kerry's unforced error in requesting actual cheese on his Philly cheesesteak order instead of cheez whiz, as Real American Dubya did.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link
Just searching "munching liberals" gets you:
lentil-munchinggranola-munchingquinoa-munchingmuesli-munchingcock-munching (this is probably not about food)arugula-munching (this is something of a curveball)tofu-munchingGuardian-munching (possibly a typo)kale-munchingcroissant-munching (FINALLY!)lettuce-munchingsalad-munchingmashed yeast-munching (WTF?)vegetable-munching (this is just lazy)bean-munching (not even mung beans at that)
I gave up after page five.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
you missed yoghurt weaving
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link
is this from "Cheeseburger in Paradise"?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
The general difference between liberal elite self-loathing and actual right-wingers seems to be that the latter are just disgusted at the concept of anyone eating a vegetable.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7893606.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY--Zac-Goldsmith-24-Hour-Campaign.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
i found a "wine-swilling kebab-scoffing teenager" but it's a daily mail headline compressing (and changing) something simon cowell said abt britain's got talent which doesn't seem to have legs beyond "people not well prepared for a competition for performers"
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link
Marcello likes to use "wine bar" as a pejorative.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
xxp a big greasy stain of unidentifiable meat pictured with two doner kebabs
― Neil S, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
lol googling "meat-munching" takes me straight to a site which feature late lamented ilxor CALUM W4DDELL talking to some z-grade horror-movie technician -- i'm not linking that either
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link
notorious Tory Party Doner
― Neil S, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02601/ozzy_2601077b.jpg
shamburger-gate
George Osborne's Byron burger fail. Out of touch - £6.75, with fries at an extra £2.95. If cheese is added, the price of the burger rises to an out of touch £7.95.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
thread back on track: dan jarvis on ukip, pie & mash, liquor and eels
eels are WAY out in the weird unacceptable food zone btw (i mean i like em but i've eaten locust AND scorpion) (scorpion is nasty btw)
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
It was another Jarvis who sang “I want to do whatever common people do”. The Pulp song crossed my mind after being summoned by Dan Jarvis, the Labour MP, to a pie and mash shop in Grays, Essex.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
pulp song that hates migrants, mind you
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link
Ever look at something and just think to yourself: "how did we ever get to this point in humanity"? pic.twitter.com/xGvlzwmSLn— Bang Average 3rd Cat (@BangAverageCat3) February 21, 2024
― koogs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:40 (two months ago) link
(the jrm tweet, obv)
― koogs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:42 (two months ago) link
the man never drank a glass of full fat milk in his life
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:20 (two months ago) link
we know where he gets his from
― nashwan, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:39 (two months ago) link
What he'd do is, he'd get his nanny to drink it, then (is violently ejected from the internet)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:39 (two months ago) link
wtf is chad milk and how am I not supposed to assume that it is cum?
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:47 (two months ago) link
It is, cum hard and drink.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link