Stratocaster vs. Telecaster

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x-post: I believe it, joygoat, and there's no shame in that -- I'm just saying compare the Schwarz with a new Gibson ES 335 around the same price (and they make a couple that are more expensive) and the Gibson comes off looking very, very bad.

Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

JC: I've only touched the guitars, but I've played the basses. They are all that.

Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

That's an unfortunate logo.

Schwanz?

darling you were wonderful you really were quite good (snoball), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Gibson is shit politically and environmentally, and I would have probably shopped around more if I knew what I know now. (I think the whole classical guitar industry is a little problematic environmentally tbh, as an aside.) The Schwarz definitely costs more than what my Gibson did, if I'm reading the price right, but I'm definitely going to want to check one out if you're saying it puts the 335 to shame!

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

Check this out, S: http://www.leonardo-guitar-research.com/

Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

Whoa, thanks. I just bought one less than a year ago, and it was 40 years old so at least no new trees were cut down for it, but I'll definitely remember that.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

I'd also take a serious look at Heritage as a modern Gibson alternative.

Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

http://heritageguitar.com

Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

i play a tele. I've never liked strats. that's all.

akm, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

i've heard nothing but good things about heritage but damn those headstocks are hideous

having said that, i've just acquired a prs s2 starla and totally fallen in love with it after previously regarding prses as the tools of ponytailed session men, rich assholes and carlos santana so my judgement may well be impaired

trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

prses as the tools of ponytailed session men, rich assholes and carlos santana

so OTM. I just recoil at ridiculously colored quilted maple tops and those stupid bird inlays.

The starla isn't bad looking though.

joygoat, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

years ago i saw a £5k prs on the wall of a guitar store that had a ridiculously ornate flame top covered with a turquoise-to-purple burst. it was genuinely traumatic

trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

EBay and Reverb are filled with the broken dreams of partcaster builds. You can sometimes get $800 worth of parts for like $300. You open it up and realize the reason it sounded like a turd was soldered wrong.

earlnash, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Really like the new FSR Tele Standard in white opal, going for about 500

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

the site Adorama often has crazy deals on Standard USA Strats and Teles (esp Strats with 2 singles and a humbucker on the bridge, which tbh might be kinda nice)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

I refuse to vote in this until the options are changed to S-500 vs ASAT

― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, November 28, 2016 12:36 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shit, the S-500. And of course, add Marissa Paternoster to the "strat" players list.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

http://loopvideos.com/ilroTI32p5s?from=10&to=18

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

The correct answer!

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link

Indeed.

Austin, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

yesssss

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link

Absolutely the correct answer.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 December 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link

While I voted otherwise, I understand and respect the outcome; further, I am not surprised given what I know of ilx0rz.

I own and love both, and I certainly have gone through Telemoods that lasted years.

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 December 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

You know both would lose to a Jazzmaster if polled so here.

earlnash, Monday, 12 December 2016 01:39 (seven years ago) link

The correct answer to that poll is Telecaster and Jazzmaster.
https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14363665828_193718576f_h.jpg

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 December 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

The offset body with Tele-style controls looks quite righteous. Not crazy about the three-saddle bridge but I applaud the purity of vision.

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

hardtail offsets always look kinda wrong to me

needs a floyd rose tremelo obv

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

here's another hybrid thing fender did, kind of a stratotelecaster

http://www.multumguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Fender-Classic-Player-Triple-Telecaster.jpg

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

amazing how much uglier that is than a regular tele when all they've done is angle the neck pickup and add a middle one

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's odd...though i read some reviews that sounded cool, like it's a 5-way switch like a strat, the neck pick up supposedly sounds pretty "tele" and it gets more strat farther back could be potentially interesting but not a real pretty guitar

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

I love Tele Deluxes, probably the next guitar I'll buy.

i also love the Jim Adkins Tele. I got a prototype of the black one:
http://i.testfreaks.co.uk/images/products/600x400/92/fender-jim-adkins-ja-90-telecaster-thinline.4358492.jpg
mine has block inlays and the f hole sits a little further back. wish i had the red one tbf

Spottie, Monday, 12 December 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

How about the Televee, the monstrosity hanging on the wall behind my friend Dave in this picture?

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14440990_1731782630415360_6779627090910247444_n.jpg?oh=02ef4e65acdceff38afc8b727e626041&oe=58F47858

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

it's uh certainly a striking instrument

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

also almost certainly theft-proof

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Last time I saw Springsteen he at one point played a Tele 12-string, which was ... weird. Also seen him with a Bigsby-affixed Tele.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 December 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

Gah, if you're going to have a trem on a Telecaster I guess it may as well be that one. Bigsbys are the enemy of intonation IME (as is the 3-saddle bridge). Therefore much beloved by retro difficulty/impractability/simplicity fetishists. If that's how you roll why not just go all the way and get with the Sears Roebuck/Silverline/Airline plastic Jack White type thingy.

But the B-Bender Tele, now that is a work of genius and I will not speak ill of it.

troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

i've seen bigsbys on teles before, was that a model or would those all be aftermarket?

Therefore much beloved by retro difficulty/impractability/simplicity fetishists.

tbh there are times that i guiltily fantisize about getting one of those weird boutiquey brands that are made of a koa wood and graphite and look like ergonomic space dildos, i bet they play really well and weigh like 12 oz.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

If guitar porn isn't out of the question, this is my Tele. Not for that price, though, jeez.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

that finish is really pretty

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

Reminds me of molten lava (and a '70s basement). Humbucker at the neck and single-coil at the bridge.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's the price point where new Fenders make no sense. You can get a handmade-with-love-and-skill custom job for that price.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

yah get like pearl anarchy signs inlayed on the fretboard and shit

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

No, like have decently dressed frets and a finish with no holes and shit.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

i hope $2k fender custom shop jobs comes with at least decently dressed frets!

this guy is local to mpls if i were to spend a lot i would love one of his, so gorgeous

http://www.whalehazard.com/

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55be87ece4b0bf5a19eae5fa/56ad5ca520c647a79ac0ab07/56ad5cb8c2ea512e75550121/1454202303645/IMG_7417.jpg?format=750w

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

$2000 Fenders are factory and don't always have decently dressed frets, and Gibson's even worse. Those Whalehazards are pretty cool and look like good value for money, daft name aside.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link


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