uh wait, never mind, when Dolores is there now, it is still buried, she's just having an extended flashback
― mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link
dolores killed everyone
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
One problem I'm having with William McPoyle is that he's clearly also Caleb Followill, lead singer and rhythm guitarist in the band Kings of Leon.
https://assets2.amazingradio.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2011/03/Caleb%2BFollowill%2BGucci%2BRocNation%2BPre%2BGRAMMY%2BntylG8mCkkvl.jpg?x64329
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/prisonbreak/images/6/6f/Jimmi%2BSimpson%2BWin%2BWin%2BNew%2BYork%2BScreening%2BD8yeyl2Yo6Fl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110416195419
Are you seriously going to tell me that these are not the same guy, with different amounts of facial hair?
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link
well those two are both white guys.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
um its called acting hello
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
YMP, one of them is more of a fathead
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
idk if it's fathead as much as less of a pronounced jawline
signed, white dude without a good jawline
― mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
is this show good/worth watching?
― Evan R, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
no
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
It's entertaining gibberish
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
tessa thompson's corporate killer lady is so bad. badly written, badly acted. what a shame. have none of these writers had an office job? the language is... not this brick-in-the-face obvious. (given their treatment of the bad writer character, i have questions about a lot more than that)
on that subjects, i just watched a couple youtubes of key scenes from margin call. that's a great movie.
― goole, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
otm worst character on the show completely ridiculous answering the door all nude from sexing a robot lol, otm re margin call too
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link
man i just thought of a whole other thing to whine about! on the subject of 'worldbuilding,' there's really *nothing at all* about what kind of larger society exists out there in the world, what kind of situation people are escaping from or buying out of to get into this park, or how (if they are widely present) the kinds of technologies in the park work in daily life outside. it seems to be just p much like today's america.
are we meant to infer that old west adventure is a huge draw again because life is so completely settled and managed? or is it the opposite, and it's the park that is a stable, predictable environment. the guests and the techs haven't given any sign of coming from any particular thing.
― goole, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link
"Maeve in the World" could be an interesting short spinoff from the main series.
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
the poor execution of this show angers me because it cld be so good or at least fun
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
what if a guest doesnt want to wear old west clothes they want to do the adventure in their furry bondage outfit is the park saying no
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link
u know they wldve developed a second park next door a la epcot where u cn fuck living stuffed animals by now
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
maybe thats what the corp wants the source code for
this is surely deliberate. Although that doesn't necessarily mean they have a coherent idea of the world outside the park (apart from a few references to having cured all diseases, etc)
― Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
are we meant to infer that old west adventure is a huge draw again because life is so completely settled and managed?
I'm pretty sure a character on the show said this basically
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:39 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol the original movie has a monorail type of thing where they get to the park followed by a relatively unglamorous ride on an airport-style golf cart thingy and my main takeaway was that behind the scenes, Delos is basically EPCOT
― mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
more like sexcot
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
this seems to be doing marginally better than RECORD LABEL or whatever that show was called - will it take longer to get cancelled?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
It's already been renewed
― Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
Oh wait they actually renewed Vinyl before canceling it lol
it was right before Bernard had his memories wiped. he asked if he'd been made to do violent acts before, followed by a brief flash of him killing Elsie, and Ford saying "oh, of course not"― mh 😏
― mh 😏
err, wasn't that Teresa in his flashback? I might be mistaken, but it didn't look like Elsie?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
RECORD LABEL didn't have a big central mystery, but then again neither did SUBURBAN MOB BOSS or DRUGS & COPS IN BALTIMORE
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
big central mysteries are a stupid thing to build a show around tbh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
Vinyl was such a depressing slog, but maybe I can save it in my mind by imagining that it, too, was a Westworld-type immersion-experience theme park.
For a modest fee, you too can be a 1970s record company executive! Discover and sign hot bands, make terrible deals, inhale blow off the belly of a dead hooker. More adventurous guests may choose to venture into the "Hood," a more authentically "urban" milieu where you may hear some groundbreaking "rap" music... but you might also get "beaten up" by a gang of authentically ethnic "hoodlums."
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
Actually now that I think about it, almost all TV shows benefit from this thought experiment.
Turn? Revolutionary cosplay.
Netflix's The Crown: pretend to be an insufferable aristocrat for a day!
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
hmm almost like all of life... is acting...
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
Quantum Leap would make a dope park
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
feel like this show but done as a farce w a huge mishmash of every entertainment idea
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
it was def the latter
― Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
of all of the minuses you might perceive in this show some things are pretty straightforward
Bernard: "have you made me do a violence before?!?"*cuts to scene of him violently attacking a prior victimFord: "of course not!"
― mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
big central mysteries are a stupid thing to build a show around tbh― Οὖτις, Monday, November 21, 2016 12:36 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Monday, November 21, 2016 12:36 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. Hopefully they either have thought through some 5-year arc, or they plan on revealing the mysteries sooner and moving on to something else driving the plot (like "Maeve in the World").
― schwantz, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
season two is medieval world or w/e, season three is romeworld
― mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, November 21, 2016
a nolan joint, you say?
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
i can't tell if the tone is too serious or not serious enough
― Karl Malone, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
ha yeah xp
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
"Maeve in the world" would basically be the same as an Ex Machina sequel (as noted above).
Medieval- and Rome-worlds sound decently diverting but are both so stratified that your initial position (cf. Rawls) must be aristocratic or else it'd be no fun. No one pays serious dinero to be the designated toilet-scrubber at Castle Whatever. In Westworld, everybody who gets off the train in Sweetwater has a comparatively wide range of potential social stations. Still no one chooses "poor agave plantation worker" or "syphilitic whore."
Or so one assumes.
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
I was wondering what the role that Maeve had before she met Ed Harris involved. Was she the other half of a family that the guest fit into. Otherwise seems odd that you would make a robot into a female homesteader if she would be away from other population as I think she would have been if she was an actual homesteader.Just finding it a bit 0f a peripheral role for them to create a robot to fill unless there was going to be some direct guest contact.
― Stevolende, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
wait so tessa thompson was telling awful british dude that Ford's new narrative that he was currently in the process of building was abt some dude named Wyatt and a bunch of masked men terrorizing pplMan in Black is currently participating in a narrative abt a dude named Wyatt and was terrorized by a bunch of masked men
this wd mean that MiB's story is some point in the future, yes?
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
xp Or to put taht another way, you could understand extra characters being put into background roles in a town situation just to make the town situation more realistic. But if you're a homesteader living in a rural spot where you're not living on top of each other and therre to show taht there is population around I don't get the point. What interaction does a homesteader have with other individuals most of the time. It looked from the clips where there has been a look back at that point in her life that she was living in the middle of nowhere.
― Stevolende, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, November 21, 2016 4:47 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
was thinking that, the near future, or hes getting a sneak peak before its complete
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
Was she the other half of a family that the guest fit into.
― Stevolende, Monday, November 21, 2016 4:45 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa this is wld be so much more interesting and sad than any of the scenarios depicted so far, someone paying big bucks to play act a happy family
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, November 21, 2016 3:47 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my assumption is that these things are rolled out sequentially? as in the first run of the new wyatt story is still in its 1st 'chapter' (nobody's even met the guy yet!) and TT is asking brit-boy to write a minor character into the unfolding scenario
basically i'm resistant to the idea that i have to keep track of slightly different timelines w/ this
happy to see that dadbot actor back tho, he was great
― goole, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
also they've come up with this back story to explain what is going on with Ed Harris involving a situation that involved one of teh central characters. But no explanation as to what that character was doing in the situation that Harris walked into. Jus surprised that they would go to the expense of paying for a robot to play a role that unless the guest is going to step into closer contact with might as well not exist.
Was also wondering what the story is with Dolores's home set up where she's living with her father. Presumably it must be understood that a guest would be coming into contact with taht domestic set up in some way or it wouldn't be part of the program loop surely? Is it understood that as part of the story line the place is going to get wrecked by passing bad men or was that a one off?
― Stevolende, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
So now I think the new host being printed in Ford's basement lab is possibly an Elsie substitute. Because the first time we saw it I thought it was too small to be an adult host and then I remembered Shannon Woodward is 5'1".
― El Tomboto, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link