WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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nah their phone call happened just before that

Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

I'm more willing to accept different timelines as a theory now -- the original town was buried, Dolores and William find it now definitely not buried. Although Ford seeing the steeple sticking up and the acknowledgment by others that he was planning on surfacing the old town could just mean the digging/cleaning robots are really efficient.

bad writer dude's new line, "I eat my victims moist" is some great horrible writing. would definitely think anyone who said that is a scary psycho because wtf

btw I am Wyatt

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

wtf is going on btw

homosexual II, Monday, 21 November 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

I think we were being led to believe that Arnold had some funny ideas and maybe was too invested in the androids, but it's quickly becoming clear that Ford doesn't really give a shit about hosts or guests and just likes fucking with people as a great sport

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

whats up w that town thats only a church steeple, thx in advance i fell asleep some

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

they buried the original western theme park years ago, idk maybe from tragedy, maybe it just looks janky compared to the new sets

apparently the steeple was the only part sticking out of the ground

Ford (according to something I read, don't really remember this bit) said something about excavating it as part of his new story

it looks like Billy and Dolores are there, now, and it's not buried

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

uh wait, never mind, when Dolores is there now, it is still buried, she's just having an extended flashback

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

dolores killed everyone

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

One problem I'm having with William McPoyle is that he's clearly also Caleb Followill, lead singer and rhythm guitarist in the band Kings of Leon.

https://assets2.amazingradio.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2011/03/Caleb%2BFollowill%2BGucci%2BRocNation%2BPre%2BGRAMMY%2BntylG8mCkkvl.jpg?x64329

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/prisonbreak/images/6/6f/Jimmi%2BSimpson%2BWin%2BWin%2BNew%2BYork%2BScreening%2BD8yeyl2Yo6Fl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110416195419

Are you seriously going to tell me that these are not the same guy, with different amounts of facial hair?

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

well those two are both white guys.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

um its called acting hello

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

YMP, one of them is more of a fathead

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

idk if it's fathead as much as less of a pronounced jawline

signed, white dude without a good jawline

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

is this show good/worth watching?

Evan R, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

no

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

It's entertaining gibberish

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

tessa thompson's corporate killer lady is so bad. badly written, badly acted. what a shame. have none of these writers had an office job? the language is... not this brick-in-the-face obvious. (given their treatment of the bad writer character, i have questions about a lot more than that)

on that subjects, i just watched a couple youtubes of key scenes from margin call. that's a great movie.

goole, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

otm worst character on the show completely ridiculous answering the door all nude from sexing a robot lol, otm re margin call too

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

man i just thought of a whole other thing to whine about! on the subject of 'worldbuilding,' there's really *nothing at all* about what kind of larger society exists out there in the world, what kind of situation people are escaping from or buying out of to get into this park, or how (if they are widely present) the kinds of technologies in the park work in daily life outside. it seems to be just p much like today's america.

are we meant to infer that old west adventure is a huge draw again because life is so completely settled and managed? or is it the opposite, and it's the park that is a stable, predictable environment. the guests and the techs haven't given any sign of coming from any particular thing.

goole, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

"Maeve in the World" could be an interesting short spinoff from the main series.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

the poor execution of this show angers me because it cld be so good or at least fun

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

what if a guest doesnt want to wear old west clothes they want to do the adventure in their furry bondage outfit is the park saying no

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

u know they wldve developed a second park next door a la epcot where u cn fuck living stuffed animals by now

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

maybe thats what the corp wants the source code for

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

man i just thought of a whole other thing to whine about! on the subject of 'worldbuilding,' there's really *nothing at all* about what kind of larger society exists out there in the world, what kind of situation people are escaping from or buying out of to get into this park, or how (if they are widely present) the kinds of technologies in the park work in daily life outside. it seems to be just p much like today's america.

this is surely deliberate. Although that doesn't necessarily mean they have a coherent idea of the world outside the park (apart from a few references to having cured all diseases, etc)

Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

are we meant to infer that old west adventure is a huge draw again because life is so completely settled and managed?

I'm pretty sure a character on the show said this basically

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

u know they wldve developed a second park next door a la epcot where u cn fuck living stuffed animals by now

― lag∞n, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:39 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol the original movie has a monorail type of thing where they get to the park followed by a relatively unglamorous ride on an airport-style golf cart thingy and my main takeaway was that behind the scenes, Delos is basically EPCOT

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

more like sexcot

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

this seems to be doing marginally better than RECORD LABEL or whatever that show was called - will it take longer to get cancelled?

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

It's already been renewed

Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

Oh wait they actually renewed Vinyl before canceling it lol

Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

it was right before Bernard had his memories wiped. he asked if he'd been made to do violent acts before, followed by a brief flash of him killing Elsie, and Ford saying "oh, of course not"

― mh 😏

err, wasn't that Teresa in his flashback? I might be mistaken, but it didn't look like Elsie?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

RECORD LABEL didn't have a big central mystery, but then again neither did SUBURBAN MOB BOSS or DRUGS & COPS IN BALTIMORE

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

big central mysteries are a stupid thing to build a show around tbh

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

Vinyl was such a depressing slog, but maybe I can save it in my mind by imagining that it, too, was a Westworld-type immersion-experience theme park.

For a modest fee, you too can be a 1970s record company executive! Discover and sign hot bands, make terrible deals, inhale blow off the belly of a dead hooker. More adventurous guests may choose to venture into the "Hood," a more authentically "urban" milieu where you may hear some groundbreaking "rap" music... but you might also get "beaten up" by a gang of authentically ethnic "hoodlums."

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Actually now that I think about it, almost all TV shows benefit from this thought experiment.

Turn? Revolutionary cosplay.

Netflix's The Crown: pretend to be an insufferable aristocrat for a day!

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

hmm almost like all of life... is acting...

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Quantum Leap would make a dope park

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

feel like this show but done as a farce w a huge mishmash of every entertainment idea

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

err, wasn't that Teresa in his flashback? I might be mistaken, but it didn't look like Elsie?

it was def the latter

Number None, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

of all of the minuses you might perceive in this show some things are pretty straightforward

Bernard: "have you made me do a violence before?!?"
*cuts to scene of him violently attacking a prior victim
Ford: "of course not!"

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

big central mysteries are a stupid thing to build a show around tbh

― Οὖτις, Monday, November 21, 2016 12:36 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. Hopefully they either have thought through some 5-year arc, or they plan on revealing the mysteries sooner and moving on to something else driving the plot (like "Maeve in the World").

schwantz, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

season two is medieval world or w/e, season three is romeworld

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

the poor execution of this show angers me because it cld be so good or at least fun

― lag∞n, Monday, November 21, 2016

a nolan joint, you say?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

i can't tell if the tone is too serious or not serious enough

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

ha yeah xp

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

"Maeve in the world" would basically be the same as an Ex Machina sequel (as noted above).

Medieval- and Rome-worlds sound decently diverting but are both so stratified that your initial position (cf. Rawls) must be aristocratic or else it'd be no fun. No one pays serious dinero to be the designated toilet-scrubber at Castle Whatever. In Westworld, everybody who gets off the train in Sweetwater has a comparatively wide range of potential social stations. Still no one chooses "poor agave plantation worker" or "syphilitic whore."

Or so one assumes.

marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

I was wondering what the role that Maeve had before she met Ed Harris involved. Was she the other half of a family that the guest fit into. Otherwise seems odd that you would make a robot into a female homesteader if she would be away from other population as I think she would have been if she was an actual homesteader.
Just finding it a bit 0f a peripheral role for them to create a robot to fill unless there was going to be some direct guest contact.

Stevolende, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

wait so tessa thompson was telling awful british dude that Ford's new narrative that he was currently in the process of building was abt some dude named Wyatt and a bunch of masked men terrorizing ppl
Man in Black is currently participating in a narrative abt a dude named Wyatt and was terrorized by a bunch of masked men

this wd mean that MiB's story is some point in the future, yes?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link


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