Not my thing at all. I'm very tired of his current sloppy diary approach.
However, this is nice:
http://www.stereogum.com/1910524/holly-throsby-what-do-you-say-feat-mark-kozelek/premiere/
― Evan, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:14 (seven years ago) link
Found myself playing a 34 minute live version of the Jesu/Sun Kil Moon track "Beautiful You" on Youtube the other night. Kozelek seemed graceless and uncool and less funny than he thinks he is and you'd only really want to listen to half of it ... which is basically a metaphor for where we're at with him these days, isn't it? And yet ... I was strangely impressed. He must know he looks awkward and uncool ... and at least he's not just replaying Red House Painters songs forever. The album itself is strangely frustrating. It could be great and interesting but it's partly cringe-worthy and needs editing - Kozelek needs a "critical friend". Have been playing "Perils from the Sea" tonight - one of my favourite albums *ever*.
― djh, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
apparently this is old news but new to me: there's a double (!) album titled Common As Light And Love Are Red Valleys Of Blood out this month
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link
yeah and it fuckin sucks
http://www.sunkilmoon.com/commonaslight/
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
it fascinatingly sucks, so i'm still listening to it despite finding every song exhausting. highlights:
- at one point in "philadelphia cop" the music stops dead and kozelek starts a dialogue with himself in which he plays both a music journalist and someone who's really psyched about music journalists. it goes like this:
"oh my god you're a music journalist? do you get to go to south by southwest?""yeah pretty much every year, i mean the magazine i work for sends me out there""oh my god that sounds like such a blast""yeah it's a lot of fun, i mean it's super hard to get into the vip after show parties but i don't know maybe if you tag along i might be able get you in""oh my god you get to meet the bands?""yeah totally i'm friends with jim james, doctor john misty, bunch of people. hold on a second sufjan stevens is texting me right now""oh no way i love him. do you get to wear a laminate?""yeah i mean it makes me feel a little self conscious but you sort of have to in order to get into certain shows""oh my god that's so cool"
- there's a section of "lone star" that sounds like admiral fell promises, his last good album. then he undercuts it by saying "this part of the songs sounds like part of a cameron crowe film score." peak of the last three or so skm records lol. the rest of "lone star" is him raging against the transgender bathroom law which is well-intentioned but the language is pretty...imprecise
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link
I kind of want to hear it badly now
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
props to whoever added the "Musical Comedy" tag to his rym page
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link
Ok looool
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link
brad you still should really try perils from the sea
yeah perils is his 3rd best post-RHP album after ghosts/april imo
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
I will admit to legit loling at the ending of "he's bad"
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link
i just watched almost famous and totally never knew that he was the drummer in the band STILLWATER
weird casting
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link
thought the first track on this was kinda good though the talking blues thing he's doing does not work for me...but the music & the chorus was nice. I'm an outlier insofar as I have never cared for/about his work though.
― though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
I kind of like to pretend that he had a motorcycle accident in 2013 and since then an unhealthy looking imposter has been releasing albums under his name and moniker. I'd rank his albums like this (ignoring plenty of nice live albums):
Sun Kil Moon - Admiral Fell PromisesSun Kil Moon - Ghosts Of The Great Highway Sun Kil Moon - AprilRed House Painters - s/tRed House Painters - Ocean BeachRed House Painters - s/t (bridge)Mark Kozelek - White Christmas & Little Drummer Boy LiveMark Kozelek - What's Next To The MoonRed House Painters - Down Colorful Hill Desertshore - Drawing Of Threes (he is on most of this album and it feels like a lost Red House Painters album)Sun Kil Moon - Among The LeavesRed House Painters - Old RamonRed House Painters - Songs For A Blue GuitarMark Kozelek & Jimmy LaValle - Perils From The SeaMark Kozelek - NightsMark Kozelek - The Finally LPMark Kozelek & Desertshore - s/tSun Kil Moon - Benji
Besides acknowledging the successful impact Benji achieves he basically doesn't exist after 2013 in my eyes. I feel longwinded given I have to clarify what "version" of Sun Kil Moon I like whenever it comes up...
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
His lyrics are now the musical equivalent of that podcast designed to put you to sleep
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
The best song he's ever written imo is surprisingly on Among the Leaves, called "Young Love". I'm convinced it's a leftover track that didn't make it on Admiral Fell Promises by the time that was released. Just a guess though.
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
I will listen to this to see how many panera breads show up please no spoilers
― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
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perils is fine, it's the only time this approach worked
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
evan i will fight you for ranking old ramon below among the leaves
Hastily assembled list! I'd probably revise that. Whenever I think of that album I just think of Young Love.
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link
Quick, someone challenge me on something else so I can cave again.
But seriously I'm curious how people rank his records ever since he retired from singing and writing poetry a few years ago.
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
i think old ramon is nearly as good as ghosts which is prob a minority opinion, but they share a lot imo in atmosphere and guitar tone
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link
i don't really like ranking things (and am averse to threads turning into endless ranking posts) but it'd be something like
rollercoaster = ghosts > ocean beach = april = old ramon > admiral fell promises = songs for a blue guitar > bridge > down colorful hill > basically everything else
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link
You might like Desertshore - Drawing Of Threes then. Have you heard that?
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link
not at all, i'll check it out!
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
dammit I am going to have to listen to this, aren't I
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
how i feel about this is how i imagine most people on earth feel about lulu
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
dear god how long is this song
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
I am at the beginning of track 2 and I think it is safe to say that I am not the target demographic for this.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link
who is?
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
hate to shit on your heroes but everything I've ever heard this guy do is the most obnoxiously boring music on earth
― imago, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
mark kozelek
xp
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Someone who can hit the interlude in track 2 and not want to shake dude until he forms butter.
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
i would suggest persevering until the dialogue in track 3 and then shutting it off right after
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
mostly bc i still can't believe i heard it
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
imago and DJP otm
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
WHY IS THIS DIARY READING STILL GOING ON
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
... what is going on
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
like what are these songs even about and why are they so long and what is the purpose behind the structure and is there a point to this and where is God
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
just a little reminder from mark k that you're supposed to be listening to cure bootlegs
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
thanks for the reminder, Mark K *turns on "Forever" from Curiosity*
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
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― mookieproof, Wednesday, February 15, 2017
people who sneak in 13 items in the 10-items-or-fewer lane at the grocery store
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
It is tempting to put this album on Songs that you wish were properly recorded but only exist as demos/live recordings purely for shade reasons
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Again, no need to listen to new sunk ill moan when there's plenty of great older albums.
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
lol yes.
having never really listened before, its pleasant coffee shop music underneath speed reading of unedited tour diaries. i can take this sort of thing at poetry readings but at album-length? not for me.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Might have said this before but the descriptions of his newest stuff seems like the opposite of early Red House Painters when it sounded like every breath of it was precious and important. Seems like a lot of people who might love Red House Painters are put off by the newest stuff and the controversies. I should probably give some of the newer stuff a shot but I was already falling out of love after the first Sun Kil Moon album, although some of it was nice.
After "Duk Koo Kim" did he ever do one of those build-up songs again? I can't think of anyone else who did anything quite like that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link
I feel like I've been listening to the 1st song for an hour at least, or maybe the whole thing is on a "replay 1" setting, I don't know.
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
each song is an hour long iitc
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link
oh okay here's a new song finally
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
well, "finally"