WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

that said, even Bernard couldn't understand/see some things related to his host status while Maeve could.

I'm betting on a finale in which Hopkins pulls a Mithradates and has the robots kill all the humans in the park

what's his big project under construction ? I don't remember the hints and clues.

also, the new management woman is terrible as a intelligent/ruthless/sexy/powerful caricature.

we weren't sure but it sounded like she used the term "blood sacrifice" and hopkins used the term as well at the end of the episode which suggests... i guess either that she is also a droid or that they're in cahoots?

Or he has every inch of the park bugged.

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hum. if she's also a robot, it would explain why she's allowed to have sex with a host !
but at this point, would it really matter or interest anyone to learn another supposedly human is actually a robot ?

Yeah the

It's established that they've got good cameras, but with convenient spottiness of coverage - what is noticed and what isn't noticed is always exactly what the writers require. So Bearded Tech Dude can tell someone's been messing with the settings, but can't tell who. Bernard can have long soulful chats with Dolores with no one apparently knowing. Elsie can see who did what to the transmitter, but she's apparently unworried about anybody noticing her wide-ranging snoopage. Everything can be done remote by tablet except for the things that can't; everything can be dialed up in the browser history except for the things that can't; etc.

The system's capabilities expand and contract in response to what's convenient for the narrative at that moment. It's like one big CSI:Whatever where you can always "enhance" a photo unless there's a detail needs to be obscured for writerly convenience. You can get anything off of the wiped hard drive except for the One Missing Piece.

One can see all this machinery in action and still find it dumb popcorny fun.

oops forget 'yeah the"

No guys all robots are programmed to think they are Cowboys there is no other way

― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:13 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bernard actually got into robotics because his son died after an accident involving a horse on their ranch

Presumably everything Bernard has been doing (e.g. chatting with Dolores) have been at Anthony Hopkins' instigation, not some personal project of his own?

This really fell off after episode 1, or at least the super-stylised production values stopped holding my attention when it began to get repetitive and the plot inched forward, if at all, at snail's pace. I think stretches of both eps 4 and 5 actually sent me to sleep? And then ep 6 brought it back in a pretty huge and unexpected way for me, easily the first time I was actually gripped by the story. This is entirely down to Maeve's self-actualisation - she's probably the only character I'm invested in. I love how her reaction to all the new info is to process it like a robot and determine a course of action based on that, even when it might seem she's reacting like a human on the surface (eg tears for Clementine's lobotomy). Thandie Newton is MVP in this show by a million miles.

I'm pretty bored with most scenes in the park, especially the shoot-em-up scenes which feel so rote, especially when you know how little's at stake. Feel like half this season has been given over to cycling pointlessly through these narratives. Becoming rapidly uninvested in Dolores, whose self-actualisation seems to have stalled, at least compared to Maeve's. William is a completely boring void of nothing. It's hard to sustain a character seven episodes in when all they've given us is vaguely worried looks.

There's literally nothing about the Man In Black storyline that holds any interest for me, the problem isn't that the show's piling up ridiculous mysteries à la Lost, it's that it's piling up boring mysteries. What is the Man In Black searching for? I don't care bc I don't care about him bc he's total cardboard. I guess the video game parallel is intentional but they're not emotionally compelling either. And every single interaction with hosts is just devoid of any reason to care, sort of like the show's hoist itself on its own clever conceit. (Even though the logic of Westworld collapses as soon as you poke at it, like the magic bullets than all humans are safe from.)

The action in the control centre with the humans (OR ARE THEY etc) is more interesting for sure, even if it can be a bit silly. Intrigued that we're not being led to root for either Ford or the board at this point - Elsie (if still alive) seems to be the only human presented as on the side of good and truth so far?

I was wondering whether Charlotte was a bot based on her relaxed attitude to nudity and Ford echoing her "blood sacrifice" line. Did Ford imply this is like a game he and the board play regularly? They try to unseat him, he sees through them and...kills someone? This doesn't make much sense.

Def on board with the theory that Bernard is (made in the image of) Arnold and the scenes of him testing Dolores were actually Arnold. There's some possibly interesting anagram stuff going on with their names too.

the bernarnold theory

Arnerdb?

I think the "blood sacrifice" line was first meant as a metaphor (We're going to fire Bernard) and later as literal (Bernard is going to splatter your head on a wall.)

he said the blood sacrifice thing cuz he was using the Hector sex bot as a spy on the board woman just like he used Bernard sex bot to get the Teresa specs to make her into a robot. the fact that this wasn't clear was either really bad writing or they are trying too hard.

or both!

http://io9.gizmodo.com/new-footage-solves-one-mystery-of-how-westworlds-park-a-1789095775

This might be the movie that Knudsen had to get back for, it's out now in France:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5247544/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4

Danish, English, French YOU'RE JUST SHOWING OFF NOW SIDSE BABETT KNUDSEN

i'm not gonna lie i fell asleep at least once during that last ep

Holy fuck, it appears Sky have hijacked the official website in that it won't load in the UK but redirects to the Sky Atlantic's Westworld page. Fuck this show

https://www.discoverwestworld.com/#

in France it goes here: http://fans.ocs.fr/westworld-series-ocs-ambitieux-subversif-delirant/

If you're trying to check out the website and have a look at the map, you think they'd realise there's a fair chance you're already watching the show

the problem isn't that the show's piling up ridiculous mysteries à la Lost, it's that it's piling up boring mysteries.

I pretty much agree with this. So I still enjoy watching the show but it's not really exciting. Just fun. And maybe less and less...

I like Dolores' plot. A robot falling in love is not original or surprising, but inevitably something they have to explore in this show, and I like that they're kinda doing it in a classic silver screen love story kind of way. I was hoping that the western setting would also allow for some classic western sub plots. As for the shoot-outs it was all fun and games at first but we see now that guests can get in genuine danger and be killed by hosts, if not by the bullets, so there's more to it than before.

yeah, I like Dolores's plot, so far (although her lovers are pretty boring. I mean, Teddy and William...) : the hidden gun, the hidden conversations with Bernard/Arnold, her quest to whatever she'll find...

General derision here and my wife's apparent firm "no" means I won't be traveling back to WestWorld any time soon, but I thought this was funny:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/now-that-the-election-is-over-i-have-some-questions-about-westworld

Holy fuck, it appears Sky have hijacked the official website in that it won't load in the UK but redirects to the Sky Atlantic's Westworld page. Fuck this show

https://www.discoverwestworld.com/#

― groovypanda, Friday, November 18, 2016 8:48 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just got something about the site not being available in the territory I'm in. Though I did get the Delos page.

Lol... it would be amazing if the agency that created the website somehow sold the rights per territory

Maybe it was wrapped up in some "ancillary content" bit of the contract that only HBO paid for.. I dunno, scratching my head over that

if u hold down the shift key the website will send u a garbled transmission from anthony hopkins, here is the map

http://i.imgur.com/aoRlE8e.jpg

oh that seems to be missing the main towns

there u go, had to figure out how to take a screenshot w/o using the shift key lol

http://i.imgur.com/8GYgHxJ.jpg

so the story is basically going south ?
the part where nobody ever came back is the "under construction" area, I suppose ?

came back from...

i think under construction is where hopkins is building his new thing

maybe that's not exclusive and the reason why it's a "no go zone" ?
otherwhise where would the "no go zone" be since they were in the ghost nation area ?

Oddly just rechecked that Westworld site and it partially loaded but then just went to a black page saying that 'I'm Sorry Destination westworld isn't available in the country you're in'. Thought it would just go to a 404 message or something, if it wasn't going to load.

Not sure what the story is on distribution over here so wonder if there is any chance somebody might pick up the website for the area.

Sounded from the comment earlier that Sky were redirecting elsewhere from the URL, I'm assuming that would be UK. I couldn't tell if what i'm getting is just Ireland or outside the US and related. But would think a site like taht would be promotional material that they would want to have widely available.

ya hopkins new thing and the place no one ever came back from being the same place wld make sense, tho i got the impression they were looking out over the part labeled canyons (cause there were canyons)

tho iirc there was something abt hopkins building a canyon too

but there was a river between them and the "no go zone" and if I understand the map correctly there would be a river between the south west of ghost nation and the "under construction" area...

Lecter's canyon-building project is in the Under Construction zone and you see the gigantic earth-eater approaching the agave plantation hacienda.

The place Bernard goes and finds the cozy Devonshire cottage with Lecter's family may be in that zone but it's not clear - a tech tells Bernard merely that it's an area reserved for future storylines. The theater where Elsie goes to find the transmitter is merely said to be in an abandoned area. The three flavors of off-limits (under construction, reserved, and abandoned) may be the same or different, once assumes.

there's no thread for it but if you're getting tired of this then Insecure on HBO is really good!!

another interesting thing is that the "under construction" goes over the sea !
Waterworld !
http://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/96143/waterworld.jpg

some1 just watch the original movie and report back with the answers to all the mysteries

i have seen it but i dont remember

there's no thread for it but if you're getting tired of this then Insecure on HBO is really good!!

― goole, Friday, November 18, 2016 10:47 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looks good ty!

http://i.imgur.com/GzdbTHU.jpg makes you think...

I feel like Reddit-style plot-sleuthing over Westworld says more about the scripts' incoherence than the actual mysteries

FUTUREWORLD
it me

xp imo it says more about the habitual delving into scripts as some airtight explanation of a complete fictional world and not just a show you watch and enjoy

I'm all in favor of people doing so in favor of making their own homegrown Westworld tabletop rpg or slash fiction or w/e but when it's just in the service of endless avclub-style "is this a good show" thinkpieces I die inside

at least the people who are probably on tumblr trying to figure out if it's ethical to fuck a robot horse have a goal in mind