is there a real bernard somewhere? you think HR could have looked this up. am i dumb for asking? yes.
― goole, Monday, 14 November 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
true bernard is stylin xp (love jeffery wright generally altogether)
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
OK what the hell this got renewed for a second season. WHAT IS THE SECOND SEASON GOING TO BE ABOUT
― El Tomboto, Monday, 14 November 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
a new expansion pack
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
only three episodes left in the season!
at this rate we need a second season to figure out the other half of what's going on other than minor corporate shenanigans and an off-kilter android designer
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
did I miss something or are we still technically up in the air about whether Elsie is alive
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
no clue as yet
this show is lowkey bad but also immensely entertaining
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
idk I have seen what else ppl watch on tv and this isn't that bad
like are you going to watch two episodes of "how i met your mother" or like an episode of "orange is the new black" and unflinchingly say you better spent your time
I'd say some highbrow elitist thing about reading a book but I have read (or at least started) some really bad books
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
The real winner of this show are (were) Bernard's impeccable suits.
OTM
had this same conversation
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
feel like this show is spectacularly bad in a way that a lesser show cldnt hope to achieve
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
anthony hopkins performance feels like a protest against the show itself
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
so... what happened to Elsie?
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
i hope it ends with the protagonist finding philly at the edge of the park and becoming a mcpoyle bro
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
i mean, i like watching it very much, hence lowkey bad rather than high. the dialogue is often objectively bad, and the seriousness with which it takes itself is both truly not made for these hyperironic days and at times difficult to easily swallow
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link
so I guess Bernard is an Arnold-bot then
― Number None, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
i was stoked on the mystery of the first couple eps but after that it just seemed like they were all "lets do everything in the world all at once"
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
i was pumped about the show early on but i have to admit that when there were oldtimey piano covers of johnny cash, rolling stones, AND soundgarden in the first episode i got a really bad feeling
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
ha good call
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
they had nine inch nails in episode 5 and that basically made me forgive all this show's faults tho
― i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Monday, 14 November 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
lol elmo, I just asked about Elsie, too
I think the implication so far is that Elsie got taken out by Bernard and he doesn't consciously remember it because it's bad
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link
maybe elsie got taken by a diff faction, feels right
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link
something about the physical laws of danger don't make sense to me (read: shit is incoherent)
the confederados shot a gatling gun at the train, shredding the car walls. but presumably guest william is supposed to be impervious to those bullets; maybe thumped a little but not seriously injured. eh ok. we saw one of the bullets (pulled out of maeve) and it had some kind of odd screw shape? is that meant to signify "tech here" and everything gets handwaved after? i guess i'd appreciate if the show didn't stretch it too much past that...
MIB setting off some minor explosions was presented as something special; something approved from the office for a preferred customer. but then later on we've got a lot of shit blowing up for everyone, nbd.
as a commentary on video games it's got a glaring oversight: missions where you're totally ok but have to protect a vulnerable NPC (MIB with teddy, william with dolores) are annoying as hell and no fun at all. i would expect a player to want to know if a storyline has graduated a character into special or semi-protected status, so you don't feel cheated if they get shot unexpectedly! esp after trekking days into the desert with them...
― goole, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
yes i do feel like a chump for putting this much thought into it
itsnotthatdeep.jpg
― goole, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
idk, bullets deform when they hit things
― mh 😏, Monday, 14 November 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link
Anyone read any Jonathan Hickman comics? This is starting to remind me of that. No characters, no free will, just a very sophisticated diagram. I'm still enjoying it though.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 November 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
That said Bernard being a toaster and Anthony Hopkins being EVIL are about the least mindfucky twists I could imagine
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 November 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link
the best show on tv right now is Ash vs Evil Dead btw.
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 November 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link
also, what happened to Marti (Bojana Novakovic) ?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link
gave up on this
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link
It's still fun but it's definitely petered out, expectations lowered etc.
Bernard at the end perfectly captured hoe I felt at 3am last Tuesday
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link
This took a turn toward 90s NBC fodder in ep 6 but I'm still hooked
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link
Wonder if Bernard's wife was just cg and ai or if she is a bot locked in a room somewherr.
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link
He was disrupting the scripted storyline. They had to trigger pyrotechnic effects that weren't already in the storyline. The other explosions are all planned, built in to the environment, expressly designed so as to never risk harm to guests.
the confederados shot a gatling gun at the train, shredding the car walls. but presumably guest william is supposed to be impervious to those bullets; maybe thumped a little but not seriously injured.
Hey, this is why you "print" a piano instead of just building one, why everything is constructed to purpose from synthetic components. Ford and his hosts/employees can have complete control over how things react to stimuli, whether they pop squibs and die, allow a bullet to pass through and hit a host, or stop it so it doesn't hit a guest. The behavior of the cover in a firefight is variable, just like hosts have different scripts to respond to the attitude of guests.
QED BLAM
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link
man y'all are harsh on this show
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link
OK, I haven't been following this thread at all, because we literally just finished the second episode, and I doubt I can convince my wife to keep going without good reason. The acting, particularly the (what I assume to be) humans is just so bad, and the dialogue is worse - or should I say, "The fucking dialogue is fucking worse, fuck, what the fuck?!" And there are just so many (not good) questions we have about the very setup, let alone mystery or motive or why the fucking company is fucking lit and decorated like a fucking dark, bleak bomb shelter, fuck!
So, if we stick with it will we be rewarded, or are the first couple of eps kind of what you see is what you get?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link
Rewarded is a strong word, but I do think that the show improved a lot in episodes three and four, once a lot of the exposition is out of the way.
This is more of a turn-my-brain-off, popcorn chomping type of show for me. I appreciate that it's trying to be profound/intelligent, but it's mainly a fun watch, nothing revolutionary.
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link
ok that british dude is really embarrassing but he goes away for a while, and I just chalked the interior design up to like well obviously this is several decades into the future and idk I guess this was just architecture/design trends then idk
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link
Josh, I was mostly annoyed until ep 4. Then I got into it and mostly just enjoy the dumb parts for what they are
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 04:08 (seven years ago) link
the show is an excellent companion piece to this thread
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link
I lolled at the lines they gave Raising Hope tech when she was sleuthing in spooky room:What the fuckshit
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link
Hey, a lot of thought went into those lines. Imagine if she'd instead said
What the shit
Fuck
?
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
What the shit-fuck, fuck!
I can't tell if it's supposed to be funny or not. Like, are we in a future where half the lexicon is profanity? Because it is so ridiculous.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
this show is all kinds of inconsistent but I don't care, I still find it very enjoyable. except I do fall asleep in the middle of every episode for five-ten minutes.
― akm, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
also apparently HBO Go starts hosting episodes the actual minute they finish airing on TV?? who knew!!
btw they are available immediately, like right when the show airs
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link
and even before it airs if you live on the west coast
― akm, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link
I thought their offices are pretty nice for being a concrete building embedded into a plateau
Then again I feel like the characters swear a lot less than I do, so I might be the counter-Josh
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link
gbx, I mentioned to Stevie D that if Go/Now are the same, they appear the minute the show starts airing, not at the end. So 9PM on the east coast
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, November 14, 2016 10:41 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol pt taken
― goole, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
I'm glad we all decided early on that the show is bad in many ways, that way we can concentrate on important things like piano printers rather than groaning about the level of quality dipping each week
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it has been dipping
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link