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Prince of Persia (Ed), Saturday, 25 April 2009 15:31 (twelve years ago) link


Nhex, Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

(actually I don't know if the Solver in that is even usable)

Nhex, Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

Even if solver isn;t the lack of support for VBA extensions is a bit more of a pisser.


Prince of Persia (Ed), Saturday, 25 April 2009 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

More excel nonsense.

So I started using a big external monitor for convenience with big spreadsheets and ever since excel has crashed within seconds of opening every time I have run it. Turns out microsoft have not implemented multiple desktop or multiple monitor support properly and the formula bar gets orphaned wherever you left it. It tries to draw it on a monitor that isn't there, it has kittens and crashes out. Microsoft's support website says that Apple didn't implement spaces properly. WTF, I can't think of any other application that has this issue with palates and toolbars?

I can't wait for google docs spreadsheet to complete the last few bits of functionality I need, or to implement plug-ins so someone else can.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Monday, 22 June 2009 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

I think the Spaces thing is true -- it doesn't work right on Carbon apps (you get some weird behaviour on CS3 and CS4 with it, it's just everyone expects that from Adobe so doesn't kick up a stink). But that excuse only works for their mental toolbox window. It should definitely be able to move the formula bar around.

Have you tried Numbers, btw? It's getting better ...

stet, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't yet, I should take a look, although from a collaboration perspective googledocs is better.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Very interesting, a few functions that Excel doesn't have and may be useful, also this is intriguing.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Numbers would be great apart from it not supporting named cells, there is no way I am manually replacing the 83 references to "DPV" in my import or writing a new spreadsheet without having to remember which sheets important pieces of data are on.. Also no data tables so no way of conducting a sensitivity analysis and no equivalent of validation for setting up drop downs for discrete variables (or bounds on continuous ones).

Getting there but not quite there.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Fixed in Snow leopard

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Saturday, 29 August 2009 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

this company is pretty much irrelevant now, huh?

caek, Sunday, 26 September 2010 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

i read that a couple days ago & am probably gonna read it again

markers, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:07 (nine years ago) link

Cookie Monster showed up, as did a gospel choir that belted out a bizarre song composed entirely of random tweets shot into cyberspace by who-the-hell-knows.

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:19 (nine years ago) link


markers, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:20 (nine years ago) link

markers, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:21 (nine years ago) link

this company is pretty much irrelevant now, huh?

― caek, Sunday, 26 September 2010 13:06 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i find this attitude really weird

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:26 (nine years ago) link

it's relevant like coca-cola or something. no one ever thinks about them. in a lot of other industries that would be a success, rather than a sign they won't exist in 10 years.

caek, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:28 (nine years ago) link

i don't really understand how that could happen? i don't know, if you have a convincing narrative of how it might plz share it

By the end of 1997, Windows 95, along with Microsoft’s other operating systems, ran on 86.3 percent of the P.C.’s in the U.S. (Apple’s Mac O.S., by contrast, then had only 4.6 percent of the market.)

^ from the article - it doesn't note that this year, after microsoft's worse decade ever, and apple's best, apple cracked ... five per cent of the PC market

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:37 (nine years ago) link

(i know 'the pc market' is now just a segment of 'the pc + smartphone + all intermediate points market', and i know the five per cent is sales whereas it's possible the 4.6 in the article is usage? but still i don't really understand what would lead to people actually not buying windows computers anymore en masse)

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:39 (nine years ago) link

i don't know what's going to happen next, but there's absolutely no indication that microsoft do either. and it's clear they have absolutely no say in it either. so as "the pc market" changes (and it will do, beyond recognition), they are going to arrive 5 years later than everyone else. = RIP

xbox will probably be ok.

caek, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:56 (nine years ago) link

i guess they have too much cash in the bank to be literally out of business in ten years.

caek, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:57 (nine years ago) link

as "the pc market" changes (and it will do, beyond recognition)

i buy this happening in 30-50 years, maybe, but not 10? like literally my whole life people have been saying 'the paradigm of consumers sitting in front of their desk using an independent piece of computer hardware is going to end one day and that day will be soon' and yup, they're still there. just now all those people own an average of 1.5 additional devices which could do much of the same work but are instead used for playing fruit ninja.

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:38 (nine years ago) link

the hardware for general purpose computing is obviously relatively less popular. but MS don't sell that, so what do they care.

their concern should be that the software you interact with on general purpose PCs is increasingly not running on the machine, i.e. it's moving into a domain over which they have no influence and little financial stake.

the other problem they have is no developer of consumer software in their right mind would develop for windows. and uniquely among the big companies, they totally depend on other developers to make their platform attractive. they're doing a decent job of turning the reality around, but the damage to the perception has been done.

caek, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:52 (nine years ago) link

their only hope is that google docs et al don't become the new office, and they at least keep business users.

caek, Friday, 27 July 2012 14:53 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

as of february 2013, an estimated 42% of windows PCs are still running XP, which was released in 2001

not sure why but that's kind of blowing my mind

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 1 March 2013 21:58 (eight years ago) link

i bet modern pc running XP would be like wheeeeeeeeee!

Philip Nunez, Friday, 1 March 2013 22:01 (eight years ago) link

seven years pass...

this new horrible microsoft edge logo looks suspicously familiar.

just gonna put my thing down, flip it & reverse it...

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 19 June 2020 13:30 (one year ago) link

or there's the existing firefox nightly build logo:

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 19 June 2020 13:32 (one year ago) link

Damnit I cracked the case wide open but no-one will ever know because I posted on I Love Computers.

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 22 June 2020 08:32 (one year ago) link

I saw it

Ste, Monday, 22 June 2020 09:58 (one year ago) link

and unpinned this shit from my taskbar

Ste, Monday, 22 June 2020 10:00 (one year ago) link

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