Just watched the Houston episode of Bourdain's show on the bus to work, tearing up and sniffling. Gave me hope, though. Seek it out.
― schwantz, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/796769992603815936
WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
I can't fit into my head the thought of Obama meeting with (President-Elect!) Donald J. Trump
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
good post from a Veteran in my timeline:
Hey, Army (and military in general). What was the point of those incessant power points we had to go over four times a year. Something about not sexually harassing/assaulting people and something about racial discrimination being unacceptable, right? Enjoy your new commander-in-chief. Do as daddy says not as daddy do. #grabbedamericabythepussy
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging"
wtf's he going to say, honestly
hopefully he goes back into hsi office and recess appoints Garland.
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
recess appoints Garland.
he'd spark white riots, which we can't call riots, but you get the idea
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
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this blows huh
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Vote to consolidate everything to a I Hate Trump board.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link
xxp also a constitutional crisis, which with a divided court would be p. chill
― j., Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
ive been wracking my brane for ways to be helpful out here in rural vermont, and have thus far come up empty handed
however, a friend of mine in new mexico could always use support (http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/what-we-do/), and a recent thread on her FB raised an interesting idea. for those of you in sanctuary cities/counties/states, encourage your local leaders to make a public declaration of support for immigrants. it might not seem like much, but ppl are pretty scared right now, and letting them know that their community supports/protects them might provide a not insignificant amount of comfort
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
one of trump's "first 100 days" actions is to revoke all federal funding for sanctuary cities
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
i have no idea how/whether that would be possible but hey
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
oh jesus i missed that
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
I don't even know if there's a way for Congress to do that -- federal funding for cities comes through a zillion different programs. But I suppose they can try.
― Mike Pence shakes his head and mouths the word ‘no’ (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Nixon decided it was in his power to sequester money allocated by Congress by simply choosing not to spend it. I can't recall offhand if he got away with this gambit, but he had a hostile Congress to contend with who fought back. Trump would have a compliant Congress, more than happy to set this craven precedent in return for scoring some political brownie points with their base.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
based on my (cursory) look into it, it would seem that some places (eg Cali, New Mex) are sanctuaries at the state level, and others (Portland, ME) are at the city level.
also, "sanctuary city" seems to be pretty vaguely defined, and my guess is that it would be very, very difficult for congress to limit federal funding in any meaningful way
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw60UTzVEAA0reF.jpg
christ
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:23 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's reassuring. i wasn't sure at all
christ antichrist
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it would happen, but...I live in Seattle, we're a sanctuary city, overdue for a huge earthquake. What then?
(The response that comes to mind is that middle-class whites will know what Katrina felt like but of course it's going to be the poor, minorities, people without resources who suffer the most.)
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
The other, distant fear is that four years from now, if everyone works like hell and turnout rises and we elect someone decent, who says these people are going to want to give the country back to the blacks and the queers and the immigrants?
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
Xp that is reassuring, lessens terror a few percentage points
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
the election was so close, i'm confident the Democrats can take back the WH in 4 years. obv depends on how Trump pans out, and who the Dems nominate...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Nufanglenesse/status/796643621529325568
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
Trump wasn't elected by an overwhelming majority- he doesn't have a mandate bc he didn't cross 300 EV's and lost the popular vote. God help us if 2020 is a repeat of 2004/1984
― flappy bird, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
i can't imagine who will pull ahead as a contender in 4 years. sanders? he'll be a bit old. Warren? I like Warren but she talks to everyone like they are in preschool. Surely there must be someone else.
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
rupaul?
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
just thinking of reality show stars
no one really considered clinton and obama four years previous to their wins, at least not ahead of a bunch of other possibilities.
― nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
can we close this thread, please?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
why?
― akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― JoeStork, Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:31 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea the collapse of the rust belt "blue wall" states is so disheartening. WI, MI, PA no longer being reliably blue is pretty grim
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016
lol wrong thread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
Do you think Trump or anyone he appoints or is advised by cares one iota about a mandate? I don't understand how the mandate thing is relevant ever (at anything other than a superficial, narrative level), but esp now.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:45 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, GOP has presidency, house, senate. pretty much the only "mandate" that matters.
― marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
this man's happy
http://a3.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTE4MDAzNDEwODI5OTM2MTQy.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:42 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
keith ellison imo
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
Tulsi Gabbard, god help us all
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
the modern right has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. and now we've elected a president who has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. they have no reason to compromise with anyone or throw a bone to the 1/2 of the country that votes against them, nor do they have the moral decency to feel a compulsion to do so.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
― marcos, Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:47 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also if hilary had won she had literally 0.1 more of the vote than trump, that's not really much of a mandate either
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link
http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b63ba2195924d00ef8ee7bdc037885491f404dbe9e1c77d3513f6ed71f2d600.png?w=600&h=177
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
Look for Kamala Harris to do the Obama fast track to the presidency thing.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
― jason waterfalls (gbx)
in terms of generating enthusiasm among democrats and liberals over the last 2 years, i would say bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and the obamas were at the top. with HRC a tier below. bernie's not running again. michelle obama could probably do really well at some point but it won't happen in 2020. i'd personally be really happy to see elizabeth warren run, despite, er, how much better she is in the senate, apparently
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
I would like an "if you are related by blood or marriage to anyone who was been President in the last 30 years you aren't allowed to run" Constitutional amendment ASAP.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
do we have a second, crappier White House for President Toiletlord to take over instead?
i hate the thought of that human dumpster setting up shop in the irl Oval
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
The White House will become the Gilded House.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
Is there any indication he will even live in the White House? Is it required?
The dickhead's been elected, literally the least he could do right now would be to make a statement telling the more racist elements of his supporters to chill the fuck out.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Warren is giving a speech at AFL-CIO about the Democratic agenda right now
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 10 November 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
she's not pulling punches
kobach is in.
Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and an ardent opponent of immigration, has been added to Mr. Trump’s transition team, according to local news reports.
Mr. Kobach, who provided guidance on immigration policy to Mr. Trump during the campaign, will help the president-elect in the weeks before he takes office, according to the Wichita Eagle.
He told the paper he did not expect to get an offer to serve in the Trump administration, but just having him in a formal role in the New Washington could send shudders through the nation’s immigrants. Mr. Kobach has been one of the loudest anti-immigration voices in the Republican Party for years. He added Mr. Trump’s call for a border wall along the southern tier into the Republican Party platform over the summer.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
out of all the things to kick off the new session with
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link
yeah people are seriously dense if they think this is going away...
but speaking of seriously dense how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this in the middle of the night when they should just do what the honorable mr van gorp is suggesting upthread.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
also important to remember that trump is unbelievably unpopular for an incoming president
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx
would love to see this repeated in every single article about him
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
wow, 20-30 points behind Obama & GWB in every category, impressive.
― great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
too bad all the people who aren't skeptical are the ones whose votes matter
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
thread is almost at 7800 posts, we could use a fresh start.America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
taylor swift look like a lorax
― • (sleepingbag), Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:42 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Go fuck yourself.
― markers, Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:43 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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