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It took people knocking me over the head over and over, figuratively, to get me to reconsider the acculturated racism I had. It took work, but I appreciate it now, I was a real dumbass when I was younger.

Just watched the Houston episode of Bourdain's show on the bus to work, tearing up and sniffling. Gave me hope, though. Seek it out.

https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/796769992603815936

WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging

I can't fit into my head the thought of Obama meeting with (President-Elect!) Donald J. Trump

good post from a Veteran in my timeline:

Hey, Army (and military in general). What was the point of those incessant power points we had to go over four times a year. Something about not sexually harassing/assaulting people and something about racial discrimination being unacceptable, right? Enjoy your new commander-in-chief. Do as daddy says not as daddy do. #grabbedamericabythepussy

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging"

wtf's he going to say, honestly

hopefully he goes back into hsi office and recess appoints Garland.

recess appoints Garland.

he'd spark white riots, which we can't call riots, but you get the idea

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this blows huh

Vote to consolidate everything to a I Hate Trump board.

xxp also a constitutional crisis, which with a divided court would be p. chill

ive been wracking my brane for ways to be helpful out here in rural vermont, and have thus far come up empty handed

however, a friend of mine in new mexico could always use support (http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/what-we-do/), and a recent thread on her FB raised an interesting idea. for those of you in sanctuary cities/counties/states, encourage your local leaders to make a public declaration of support for immigrants. it might not seem like much, but ppl are pretty scared right now, and letting them know that their community supports/protects them might provide a not insignificant amount of comfort

one of trump's "first 100 days" actions is to revoke all federal funding for sanctuary cities

i have no idea how/whether that would be possible but hey

oh jesus i missed that

I don't even know if there's a way for Congress to do that -- federal funding for cities comes through a zillion different programs. But I suppose they can try.

Nixon decided it was in his power to sequester money allocated by Congress by simply choosing not to spend it. I can't recall offhand if he got away with this gambit, but he had a hostile Congress to contend with who fought back. Trump would have a compliant Congress, more than happy to set this craven precedent in return for scoring some political brownie points with their base.

based on my (cursory) look into it, it would seem that some places (eg Cali, New Mex) are sanctuaries at the state level, and others (Portland, ME) are at the city level.

also, "sanctuary city" seems to be pretty vaguely defined, and my guess is that it would be very, very difficult for congress to limit federal funding in any meaningful way

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw60UTzVEAA0reF.jpg

christ

also, "sanctuary city" seems to be pretty vaguely defined, and my guess is that it would be very, very difficult for congress to limit federal funding in any meaningful way

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:23 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's reassuring. i wasn't sure at all

christ antichrist

I don't think it would happen, but...I live in Seattle, we're a sanctuary city, overdue for a huge earthquake. What then?

(The response that comes to mind is that middle-class whites will know what Katrina felt like but of course it's going to be the poor, minorities, people without resources who suffer the most.)

The other, distant fear is that four years from now, if everyone works like hell and turnout rises and we elect someone decent, who says these people are going to want to give the country back to the blacks and the queers and the immigrants?

Xp that is reassuring, lessens terror a few percentage points

the election was so close, i'm confident the Democrats can take back the WH in 4 years. obv depends on how Trump pans out, and who the Dems nominate...

https://twitter.com/Nufanglenesse/status/796643621529325568

Trump wasn't elected by an overwhelming majority- he doesn't have a mandate bc he didn't cross 300 EV's and lost the popular vote. God help us if 2020 is a repeat of 2004/1984

i can't imagine who will pull ahead as a contender in 4 years. sanders? he'll be a bit old. Warren? I like Warren but she talks to everyone like they are in preschool. Surely there must be someone else.

rupaul?

just thinking of reality show stars

no one really considered clinton and obama four years previous to their wins, at least not ahead of a bunch of other possibilities.

can we close this thread, please?

why?

The other, distant fear is that four years from now, if everyone works like hell and turnout rises and we elect someone decent, who says these people are going to want to give the country back to the blacks and the queers and the immigrants?

― JoeStork, Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:31 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea the collapse of the rust belt "blue wall" states is so disheartening. WI, MI, PA no longer being reliably blue is pretty grim

why?

― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016

lol wrong thread

Do you think Trump or anyone he appoints or is advised by cares one iota about a mandate? I don't understand how the mandate thing is relevant ever (at anything other than a superficial, narrative level), but esp now.

Do you think Trump or anyone he appoints or is advised by cares one iota about a mandate? I don't understand how the mandate thing is relevant ever (at anything other than a superficial, narrative level), but esp now.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:45 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, GOP has presidency, house, senate. pretty much the only "mandate" that matters.

this man's happy

http://a3.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTE4MDAzNDEwODI5OTM2MTQy.jpg

i can't imagine who will pull ahead as a contender in 4 years. sanders? he'll be a bit old. Warren? I like Warren but she talks to everyone like they are in preschool. Surely there must be someone else.

― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:42 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

keith ellison imo

Tulsi Gabbard, god help us all

the modern right has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. and now we've elected a president who has been shown to have no morals, just an all-consuming thirst for power. they have no reason to compromise with anyone or throw a bone to the 1/2 of the country that votes against them, nor do they have the moral decency to feel a compulsion to do so.

Do you think Trump or anyone he appoints or is advised by cares one iota about a mandate? I don't understand how the mandate thing is relevant ever (at anything other than a superficial, narrative level), but esp now.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:45 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, GOP has presidency, house, senate. pretty much the only "mandate" that matters.

― marcos, Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:47 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also if hilary had won she had literally 0.1 more of the vote than trump, that's not really much of a mandate either

http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1b63ba2195924d00ef8ee7bdc037885491f404dbe9e1c77d3513f6ed71f2d600.png?w=600&h=177

Look for Kamala Harris to do the Obama fast track to the presidency thing.

i can't imagine who will pull ahead as a contender in 4 years. sanders? he'll be a bit old. Warren? I like Warren but she talks to everyone like they are in preschool. Surely there must be someone else.

― akm, Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:42 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

keith ellison imo

― jason waterfalls (gbx)

in terms of generating enthusiasm among democrats and liberals over the last 2 years, i would say bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and the obamas were at the top. with HRC a tier below. bernie's not running again. michelle obama could probably do really well at some point but it won't happen in 2020. i'd personally be really happy to see elizabeth warren run, despite, er, how much better she is in the senate, apparently

I would like an "if you are related by blood or marriage to anyone who was been President in the last 30 years you aren't allowed to run" Constitutional amendment ASAP.

do we have a second, crappier White House for President Toiletlord to take over instead?

i hate the thought of that human dumpster setting up shop in the irl Oval

The White House will become the Gilded House.

Is there any indication he will even live in the White House? Is it required?

The dickhead's been elected, literally the least he could do right now would be to make a statement telling the more racist elements of his supporters to chill the fuck out.

Warren is giving a speech at AFL-CIO about the Democratic agenda right now

she's not pulling punches

OCE gutting proposal withdrawn following public outcry

Will be re-submitted, and pass overwhelmingly, over inauguration weekend, while press is busy talking about who did and didn't attend parties.

out of all the things to kick off the new session with

yeah people are seriously dense if they think this is going away...

but speaking of seriously dense how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this in the middle of the night when they should just do what the honorable mr van gorp is suggesting upthread.

also important to remember that trump is unbelievably unpopular for an incoming president

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx

would love to see this repeated in every single article about him

wow, 20-30 points behind Obama & GWB in every category, impressive.

too bad all the people who aren't skeptical are the ones whose votes matter

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taylor swift look like a lorax

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Go fuck yourself.

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