Thraed of Lil Peep

at least we know for sure he is not at all an indie rock dude copping some hip hop referents in his music where he doesn't rap at all

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUsl43DZ4q/?taken-by=lilpeepshawty&hl=en

The melodies

He uses

Are often not blues-based

Sounds to me like he does make frequent use chromatic intervals but I haven't rigorously reviewed his work from a musicological perspective so I'm not going to lean on a musicological argument--besides, you asking me to do so is clearly a trap along the lines of when ppl thought I was trying to say keef was being "complex" and therefore good by taking an unorthodox rhythmic approach

All I can say is that the melodic choices he makes remind me of the gloomy depressed trapped feel of stuff like Alice In Chains & similar 90s grunge stars that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

I do think it's funny that an indie rock artist is trying to convince me of the vast influence of indie in the year of our lord 2016 when about 8 people still listen or talk about indie rock

And while I'm not as familiar with his influences in this area, I do know he's sampled multiple emo records, which suggests to me his influences are probably more along those lines than traditional indie as such

How in all these threads where three people (inevitably one of them is always Joan Crawford of the band best coast) pile on me abt the music I like in their most condescending shitthead tones always throw up their hands and accuse me of ad hominem attacks part way through

Wait -- noz what do you think of lil peep?

at least we know for sure he is not at all an indie rock dude copping some hip hop referents in his music where he doesn't rap at all

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUsl43DZ4q/?taken-by=lilpeepshawty&hl=en

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, November 6, 2016 7:39 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're just showing how little you know about the scene he comes from but keep going good to have these with time stamps and everything.

I should mention that it's not just the melodies but the texture of many of the beats and the sneering smeared singing style that enhances teh grunge aesthetic in my mind

well david i'm glad you asked i think - and know - that lil peep is not good

Give Willy his tweet style back

haha i am willying a bit the internet is fun

i sort of see where david is coming from re grunge but ultimately i hear more depressed cali junkie RHCP/sublime vibes than seattle grunge

There's def some of that too. Kind of a louche LA burnout thing. "Girls" def should have had a John fruscianti feature

Idk about sublime though

hm, this is not good on first contact but hey

Bums me out that rap and indie rock are now basically indistinguishable tbh

This is like when ppl thought kreayshawn was a "hipster"

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

the common demeanor of rap & grunge is skate right ?

I get that for you this is about cultural positioning ("the thing I like could not sound like the thing I don't want to be seen as liking"), which is not a surprise, but this dude sounds mainly like mainstream indie rock. he does also sound on that second tune like Blink-182

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, November 7, 2016 2:56 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha post Malone wishes

I get that for you this is about cultural positioning ("the thing I like could not sound like the thing I don't want to be seen as liking"), which is not a surprise, but this dude sounds mainly like mainstream indie rock. he does also sound on that second tune like Blink-182

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, November 7, 2016 6:42 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This isn't abt "cultural positioning" I just think you don't actually get what this is or where it's influences are coming from, you think this sounds like "indie" and I think indie rock is probably the ninth most popular form of music having an influence on a nineteen year old kid listening to popular music in 2016 & while there might be some textural or surface level commonalities w the genre it's really not a primary touchpoint for this nor does it really reflect his sensibility or approach--this is very sincere music & he writes lyrical w a brush that feels much more like rap meets emo than something intended to appeal to ppl reading gorilla vs bear or whatever. I do agree to some extent about the blink 182 thing

All Reddit/chan/RYM dudes are obsessed with Memphis rap for whatever reason and this dude is 19, lock thread

oh i was wondering if you'd ever make a thread about this. when you sent it to me a few months ago i didn't know what to make of it and tbh i still don't

that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

this guys sounds a lot more like that stuff than he does like soundgarden or nirvana. 4th wave grunge finally gets its due!

All Reddit/chan/RYM dudes are obsessed with Memphis rap for whatever reason and this dude is 19, lock thread

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, November 7, 2016 8:15 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

20 year legacy of memphis rap now just makes whiney think of 4chan, you're lost in the sauce bro

that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

this guys sounds a lot more like that stuff than he does like soundgarden or nirvana. 4th wave grunge finally gets its due!

― call all destroyer, Monday, November 7, 2016 8:59 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the traphouse For Squirrels

20 year legacy of memphis rap now just makes whiney think of 4chan, you're lost in the sauce bro

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 7, 2016 10:08 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah yes, there's nothing that millennials love more than the 20 year legacies of things, which is why all new music sounds likes Cibo Matto

I remember when Salem and How to Dress Well came out, my first thoughts were how they truly honored and respected and appreciated the 20 year legacy of Houston rap

i just love that as soon as some juggalo decides to be the drill Machine Gun Kelly, D-40 immediately races to ILX to start repping for [extremely mixtape voice] REAL... TEEN... SHIT

https://twitter.com/jaybirdhh/status/795122968347209728

Finally the Kitty Pryde that won't give D-40 girl germs

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, November 7, 2016 3:56 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark

this makes me feel better about defending peep

now he's a juggalo...now he's the male kitty pryde...now he's indie rock...now he's real teen shit...

I thought to myself "maybe I'm being too dismissive of this dude based on 90 terrible seconds of 'Beamer Boy'" and decided to listen to "Kiss"

This does sound a LOT like Violent J singing over a Chainsmokers downtempo track, deej

is that "indie"?

i dont disagree w/ that description tbh

whatever you want to call it, it isn't "good"

there's definitely something 'hot for 2010' about this sort of thing

actually wait chainsmokers production doesnt really sound like this

"this dogshit is squishy like a banana"
"bananas aren't squishy exactly, what if they're still in the peel?"
"well it smells like garbage"
"not like any kind of garbage I've ever thrown out"
"it's stuck to the bottom of my shoe"
"how can it be 'sticky' and 'squishy' at the same time?"
"well it's certainly dogshit"
"i think we've proven you don't understand what dogshit is, haven't we?"
"okay i'm gonna go"
"STAY HERE AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOGSHIT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr2s5wCF0c

"that reminded me... of justin bieber... gone bad"

JCLC's got yr number deej

"this dogshit is squishy like a banana"
"bananas aren't squishy exactly, what if they're still in the peel?"
"well it smells like garbage"
"not like any kind of garbage I've ever thrown out"
"it's stuck to the bottom of my shoe"
"how can it be 'sticky' and 'squishy' at the same time?"
"well it's certainly dogshit"
"i think we've proven you don't understand what dogshit is, haven't we?"
"okay i'm gonna go"
"STAY HERE AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOGSHIT"

― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, November 7, 2016 10:34 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

youre acting like there's some objective truth to your dislike of this music but this is actually a recording artist, not literal dogshit

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks, im not going to argue w/ your subjective experience of the music, but if you're going to misdescribe it or try & say the banana is made of dogshit, im going to point out that its actually not

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks

well you did start a thread on ILM about it so methinks thou doth protest too much

^^^first fair point in this thread

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks,

aren't you over 30 by now yung deejo?

yes, im just saying its not like i expect the majority of my demographic cohort to love it, just those with exceptional taste

it's cool ums, deej is "one of the good ones"

youre acting like there's some objective truth to your dislike of this music but this is actually a recording artist, not literal dogshit
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40)

yes, im just saying its not like i expect the majority of my demographic cohort to love it, just those with exceptional taste

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 7, 2016 11:00 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha ok you got me legit lolling at work, bravo

listening to Ka and paying my bills online #grownmanrap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxNVLEpmwQ

my first gold record miss ya gus pic.twitter.com/bDgJj4a7YG

— nedarb (@NEDARBNAGROM) February 5, 2020

the song from OP

i was crushing it in this thread right up until the moment i predicted post malone would flop 🥴

Lol you win some you lose some

That's the producer I was referring to in my first post on this thread.

Lol you win some you lose some

― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:56 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

lose lose in this case

This song is doing some streams now, two years after its release ... pretty interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD2ypP3Xwq8

A billion streams for star shopping

https://www.instagram.com/p/CyZMIluujcc/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Congrats to indie rock’s biggest success

I recently interrogated a 14 year old about her favorite music, and she said her big 3 are:
Lil Peep
Weezer
Led Zeppelin

been meaning to check the joint album with makonnen

Man that "Star Shopping" Insta post made me real sad. Such a massive loss in pop culture. Such a singular writer. The photos of him with his Grandpa really hit me in a heavy way.

I admire how his Mom has handled his estate. Feel like her voice and the clear love that she had for her son really comes through in the promo materials.