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Saying he uses melodies that remind me mainly of 90s grunge

in what way do they remind you of 90s grunge? This should be easy, as 90s grunge had several really distinctive musical qualities that set it apart from the hard rock of the day. I don't hear any of these in the stuff you linked; I do hear, and showed you in easy to understand terms, Beach House and mainstream indie. you don't like the idea of boosting something that reminds you of stuff you'd rather not be culturally aligned with, so you say it doesn't sound like that stuff, but it kinda does. sorry! a lot of the metal I like reminds me of Paganini, even though I do not like Paganini. Those are the breaks!

attempting to argue this on a legit musical basis w/deej w/o ad-homs tho obv we all know how that'll end but w/e

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2016 01:26 (two years ago) Permalink

(also for the record actually discussing what's going on is not "dropping musical terms." I know you can't help but think of actual musical discussion that way, but that's on you, not on people who like to talk about music.)

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2016 01:27 (two years ago) Permalink

sorry i'll get back on topic - lil peep is not good

based grandpa (noz), Monday, 7 November 2016 01:31 (two years ago) Permalink

at least we know for sure he is not at all an indie rock dude copping some hip hop referents in his music where he doesn't rap at all

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUsl43DZ4q/?taken-by=lilpeepshawty&hl=en

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2016 01:39 (two years ago) Permalink

The melodies

He uses

Are often not blues-based

Sounds to me like he does make frequent use chromatic intervals but I haven't rigorously reviewed his work from a musicological perspective so I'm not going to lean on a musicological argument--besides, you asking me to do so is clearly a trap along the lines of when ppl thought I was trying to say keef was being "complex" and therefore good by taking an unorthodox rhythmic approach

All I can say is that the melodic choices he makes remind me of the gloomy depressed trapped feel of stuff like Alice In Chains & similar 90s grunge stars that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

I do think it's funny that an indie rock artist is trying to convince me of the vast influence of indie in the year of our lord 2016 when about 8 people still listen or talk about indie rock

And while I'm not as familiar with his influences in this area, I do know he's sampled multiple emo records, which suggests to me his influences are probably more along those lines than traditional indie as such

How in all these threads where three people (inevitably one of them is always Joan Crawford of the band best coast) pile on me abt the music I like in their most condescending shitthead tones always throw up their hands and accuse me of ad hominem attacks part way through

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:01 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait -- noz what do you think of lil peep?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:01 (two years ago) Permalink

at least we know for sure he is not at all an indie rock dude copping some hip hop referents in his music where he doesn't rap at all

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMUsl43DZ4q/?taken-by=lilpeepshawty&hl=en

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, November 6, 2016 7:39 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're just showing how little you know about the scene he comes from but keep going good to have these with time stamps and everything.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:04 (two years ago) Permalink

I should mention that it's not just the melodies but the texture of many of the beats and the sneering smeared singing style that enhances teh grunge aesthetic in my mind

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:09 (two years ago) Permalink

well david i'm glad you asked i think - and know - that lil peep is not good

based grandpa (noz), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Give Willy his tweet style back

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:14 (two years ago) Permalink

haha i am willying a bit the internet is fun

based grandpa (noz), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:21 (two years ago) Permalink

i sort of see where david is coming from re grunge but ultimately i hear more depressed cali junkie RHCP/sublime vibes than seattle grunge

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 November 2016 02:34 (two years ago) Permalink

There's def some of that too. Kind of a louche LA burnout thing. "Girls" def should have had a John fruscianti feature

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:45 (two years ago) Permalink

Idk about sublime though

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:46 (two years ago) Permalink

hm, this is not good on first contact but hey

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Bums me out that rap and indie rock are now basically indistinguishable tbh

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 November 2016 03:31 (two years ago) Permalink

This is like when ppl thought kreayshawn was a "hipster"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 04:02 (two years ago) Permalink

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 7 November 2016 08:56 (two years ago) Permalink

the common demeanor of rap & grunge is skate right ?

ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 7 November 2016 12:26 (two years ago) Permalink

I get that for you this is about cultural positioning ("the thing I like could not sound like the thing I don't want to be seen as liking"), which is not a surprise, but this dude sounds mainly like mainstream indie rock. he does also sound on that second tune like Blink-182

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2016 12:42 (two years ago) Permalink

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, November 7, 2016 2:56 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha post Malone wishes

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 13:14 (two years ago) Permalink

I get that for you this is about cultural positioning ("the thing I like could not sound like the thing I don't want to be seen as liking"), which is not a surprise, but this dude sounds mainly like mainstream indie rock. he does also sound on that second tune like Blink-182

― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, November 7, 2016 6:42 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This isn't abt "cultural positioning" I just think you don't actually get what this is or where it's influences are coming from, you think this sounds like "indie" and I think indie rock is probably the ninth most popular form of music having an influence on a nineteen year old kid listening to popular music in 2016 & while there might be some textural or surface level commonalities w the genre it's really not a primary touchpoint for this nor does it really reflect his sensibility or approach--this is very sincere music & he writes lyrical w a brush that feels much more like rap meets emo than something intended to appeal to ppl reading gorilla vs bear or whatever. I do agree to some extent about the blink 182 thing

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 13:18 (two years ago) Permalink

All Reddit/chan/RYM dudes are obsessed with Memphis rap for whatever reason and this dude is 19, lock thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 14:15 (two years ago) Permalink

oh i was wondering if you'd ever make a thread about this. when you sent it to me a few months ago i didn't know what to make of it and tbh i still don't

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 7 November 2016 14:25 (two years ago) Permalink

that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

this guys sounds a lot more like that stuff than he does like soundgarden or nirvana. 4th wave grunge finally gets its due!

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 November 2016 14:59 (two years ago) Permalink

All Reddit/chan/RYM dudes are obsessed with Memphis rap for whatever reason and this dude is 19, lock thread

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, November 7, 2016 8:15 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

20 year legacy of memphis rap now just makes whiney think of 4chan, you're lost in the sauce bro

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:08 (two years ago) Permalink

that later went on to influence stuff like staind and puddle of mudd or what have you.

this guys sounds a lot more like that stuff than he does like soundgarden or nirvana. 4th wave grunge finally gets its due!

― call all destroyer, Monday, November 7, 2016 8:59 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the traphouse For Squirrels

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

20 year legacy of memphis rap now just makes whiney think of 4chan, you're lost in the sauce bro

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 7, 2016 10:08 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah yes, there's nothing that millennials love more than the 20 year legacies of things, which is why all new music sounds likes Cibo Matto

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:16 (two years ago) Permalink

I remember when Salem and How to Dress Well came out, my first thoughts were how they truly honored and respected and appreciated the 20 year legacy of Houston rap

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:17 (two years ago) Permalink

i just love that as soon as some juggalo decides to be the drill Machine Gun Kelly, D-40 immediately races to ILX to start repping for [extremely mixtape voice] REAL... TEEN... SHIT

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:20 (two years ago) Permalink

Finally the Kitty Pryde that won't give D-40 girl germs

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:23 (two years ago) Permalink

Post Malone > this. Sorry.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, November 7, 2016 3:56 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark

this makes me feel better about defending peep

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 November 2016 15:36 (two years ago) Permalink

now he's a juggalo...now he's the male kitty pryde...now he's indie rock...now he's real teen shit...

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:54 (two years ago) Permalink

I thought to myself "maybe I'm being too dismissive of this dude based on 90 terrible seconds of 'Beamer Boy'" and decided to listen to "Kiss"

This does sound a LOT like Violent J singing over a Chainsmokers downtempo track, deej

¶ (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:17 (two years ago) Permalink

is that "indie"?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:28 (two years ago) Permalink

i dont disagree w/ that description tbh

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:28 (two years ago) Permalink

whatever you want to call it, it isn't "good"

¶ (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:28 (two years ago) Permalink

there's definitely something 'hot for 2010' about this sort of thing

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:29 (two years ago) Permalink

actually wait chainsmokers production doesnt really sound like this

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:29 (two years ago) Permalink

"this dogshit is squishy like a banana"
"bananas aren't squishy exactly, what if they're still in the peel?"
"well it smells like garbage"
"not like any kind of garbage I've ever thrown out"
"it's stuck to the bottom of my shoe"
"how can it be 'sticky' and 'squishy' at the same time?"
"well it's certainly dogshit"
"i think we've proven you don't understand what dogshit is, haven't we?"
"okay i'm gonna go"
"STAY HERE AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOGSHIT"

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:34 (two years ago) Permalink

"that reminded me... of justin bieber... gone bad"

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:42 (two years ago) Permalink

JCLC's got yr number deej

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 November 2016 16:45 (two years ago) Permalink

"this dogshit is squishy like a banana"
"bananas aren't squishy exactly, what if they're still in the peel?"
"well it smells like garbage"
"not like any kind of garbage I've ever thrown out"
"it's stuck to the bottom of my shoe"
"how can it be 'sticky' and 'squishy' at the same time?"
"well it's certainly dogshit"
"i think we've proven you don't understand what dogshit is, haven't we?"
"okay i'm gonna go"
"STAY HERE AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOGSHIT"

― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, November 7, 2016 10:34 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

youre acting like there's some objective truth to your dislike of this music but this is actually a recording artist, not literal dogshit

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:50 (two years ago) Permalink

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks, im not going to argue w/ your subjective experience of the music, but if you're going to misdescribe it or try & say the banana is made of dogshit, im going to point out that its actually not

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:51 (two years ago) Permalink

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks

well you did start a thread on ILM about it so methinks thou doth protest too much

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 November 2016 16:53 (two years ago) Permalink

^^^first fair point in this thread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:54 (two years ago) Permalink

i dont gaf if a bunch of out of touch 30+ year old men think this sucks,

aren't you over 30 by now yung deejo?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:58 (two years ago) Permalink

god this thread is so good

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2018 02:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Jesus that song is great

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:03 (two months ago) Permalink

http://p4k.in/CKVxguj

Lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:04 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHo8iXA2yU

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:16 (one month ago) Permalink

skip to 2:24

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:20 (one month ago) Permalink

painful writing xp

flopson, Sunday, 18 November 2018 08:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Billy Corgon otm

flopson, Sunday, 18 November 2018 08:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Billy Corgan is right, but at the same time an unbearable prick, also he thinks he's called "Little Peep"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 18 November 2018 12:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Billy crogan for preisdent

rip van wanko, Sunday, 18 November 2018 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

i love that song "falling down"

Trϵϵship, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:03 (one month ago) Permalink

and runaway. i like this posthumous album.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:05 (one month ago) Permalink

cowys 2 is just about the only stuff of his I actively dislike

rip van wanko, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:25 (one month ago) Permalink

yea it is bad

johnny crunch, Friday, 23 November 2018 22:35 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s not perfect but idk that it’s some huge fall off... some
definite peep classics in here

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 23 November 2018 23:38 (one month ago) Permalink

seems like he was a sweet kid

johnny crunch, Friday, 30 November 2018 22:10 (one month ago) Permalink


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