Filmstruck / Criterion Channel

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for me, it's about having a tv with limited HD inputs... one for the ps4, one for the tivo and switching stuff out means a painful boot up period and extra hassle so i find i just don't do it

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:57 (three years ago) link

It's not available for the Chromecast, according to them That means I can screen mirror if I got one but have to leave my laptop up and running the entire time.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:02 (three years ago) link

Screen mirroring quality is pretty meh, IME, but it's been a while since I used a Chromecast.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:02 (three years ago) link

It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:11 (three years ago) link

It will be available for XBox One and Roku in six months, pretty sure I could find plenty to watch on Netflix and Amazon Video until then. We're talking about now, though.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:15 (three years ago) link


It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:11 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also as a public service announcement the criterion print of andrei rublev is shitty and you can watch a much better transfer on youtube right now

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:02 (three years ago) link

They said PS4 "first half" of the coming year, so most likely I'd wait a while. No Chromecast/Roku support at launch seems pretty weak, though.

Nhex, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:13 (three years ago) link

Roku support was slated for January 2017 acc to some infographic I saw on their website but now cannot find (because their website seems to be three completely different websites cobbled together and filled with contradicting info).

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

I just want to stream All That Jazz why is this so damn hard

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

The latest from their Facebook flack to commenters is "early 2017" for Roku.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:23 (three years ago) link

I didn't do an exact count, but it looks like roughly 900 films on the Criterion side. Since there are a lot that haven't migrated over from Hulu (yet), that means there are a lot of additions. Browsing around just a little bit I saw Blood Simple, the other 2 films in Wim Wenders' Road Trilogy to go with Alice in the Cities, some Harold Lloyd that hadn't been on Hulu, some New Wave.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:14 (three years ago) link

*British New Wave

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:16 (three years ago) link

When is this up for AppleTV?

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:36 (three years ago) link

December, allegedly. (4th-gen only, nothing earlier)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:41 (three years ago) link

Signed up last night; Hulu account expires tomorrow. Started with No Home Movie and Ornette: Made in America.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 6 November 2016 19:26 (three years ago) link

cool, any glitches? I'll sign up soon but may wait a little bit if they're still working stuff out.

intheblanks, Sunday, 6 November 2016 21:33 (three years ago) link

I pushed the film last night to my 3rd-gen Apple TV using AirPlay and my iMac completely froze about 20 minutes into the movie; had to do a hard shutdown and restart. Everything has worked fine today, watching directly on the Mac. I'll try AirPlaying again tonight.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 6 November 2016 22:17 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

D.A. Pennebaker's first film, Daybreak Express, is just the sort of wonderful tidbit that makes this site worth the money to me. I never would have seen it if they hadn't paired it with the feature it ran with in 1958 (Neame's The Horse's Mouth). Filmstruck isn't perfect (all the hosted intros I've seen so far are horrible), but it's got a lot going for it.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 04:01 (two years ago) link

Hosted intros? Don't like the sound of that.

Anyone know if FilmStruck is 1080p, as opposed to Hulu's 720p?

Jazzbo, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:53 (two years ago) link

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:55 (two years ago) link

If they're concerned about picture quality they shouldn't be streaming

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:54 (two years ago) link

^^^^^

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:53 (two years ago) link

AppleTV app is live

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 4 December 2016 00:48 (two years ago) link

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

They are basically the Steve Hoffman folk of the film world. BluRay era has been a golden age for system setup/region coding online dick-size contests.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 December 2016 05:56 (two years ago) link

A FB friend (who may be an ILXor, though I can't remember his screen name) who knows how to wrangle databases heard my plea last night and extracted the data from Filmstruck's "Browse All" source code that allowed me to make this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit?usp=sharing

A spreadsheet with Filmstruck's current offerings, sortable by title, director, year, runtime, country. Note 2 sheets, Basic Filmstruck and Criterion Channel. It may be less useful than the one I made of Criterion on Hulu, because films are being added and dropped much more frequently.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 December 2016 16:24 (two years ago) link

Thanks for that!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:39 (two years ago) link

some surprising omissions: very little Minelli, only one Lubitsch, no Tod Browning, no Sturges, no Sirk, only a handful of Fellini, only one Cukor... plenty of oddball curation clearly swung by copyright ownership instead of best options too: four Robert Downey Sr. films but no Putney Swope?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:55 (two years ago) link

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You're welcome! I'm going to try to keep up with arrivals and departures to keep the spreadsheet up to date, but they are being VERY stupid about announcing that sort of stuff (I found out Mulholland Dr. is leaving the site at the end of January, but not from Filmstruck itself) so if anyone wants to mention comings and goings on this thread, that'd be great.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:58 (two years ago) link

Nice list! Wow, that's a strong sales pitch...ugh. I'm really disappointed because the little Roku TV I bought this year for the living room has no option to turn off its (subtle, not always dstractingly present) soap-opera effect and by the time I was sure it wasn't my imagination, it was too late to return the thing. So now I'm sort of hesitant to plunk down for Filmstruck when it goes Roku since it'll be sabotaging the entire ''get myself educated in great film'' thing.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:28 (two years ago) link

You might want to double check your TV settings re: soap opera effect. A friend had this issue, I had to go in and change her TV's settings on every input.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:36 (two years ago) link

Oh believe me I've looked, through every menu and submenu. AFAICT it does not have any kind of off switch. It's definitely more pronounced on certain content but I suspect this may reflect arcane details of what framerate/medium the content provided to Netflix was inteded for. Robotech (the DVD version from the early 2000s) looked fine the entire way through. From Dusk Till Dawn made the actors look like plastic cutouts sliding wildly around the screen somehow moving a little faster than they should, especally any time the camera moved.

I keep praying for a firmware upgrade that fixes this but I doubt many folks are clamoring for it. Just pissed that the online reviews suggesting this was really the best option for this size TV never thought this was worth mentioning. Maybe earlier models didn't do this, or something.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Monday, 5 December 2016 00:21 (two years ago) link

It's classic that a thing happens and ILX's first reaction is to make a spreadsheet

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:41 (two years ago) link

::shrug::
for me, it's an easier way to browse

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:18 (two years ago) link

The in-app browsing system is not good! A spreadsheet is very helpful for this thing!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:14 (two years ago) link

So the non-Criterion content is pretty meh, right? I was actually more interested in TCM-style films than Criterions.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:34 (two years ago) link

Downhill Racer is only available this month, I see.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:39 (two years ago) link

There was never going to be a lot of content that people would think of as "TCM-like" on this, and it seemed like they let a lot of people think otherwise.

Chris L, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:54 (two years ago) link

makes you wonder what TCM even has to do with it? Why not just Criterion: the App?

dan selzer, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:57 (two years ago) link

Yeah, they've been unnecessarily vague about everything but the price.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:33 (two years ago) link

A friend recommended the Warner Movie Archive for classic American stuff but the library looks pretty shallow even for a one-studio service and reviews were bad.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 9 December 2016 03:03 (two years ago) link

FS has legit shit quality streaming and they told me they wont have chromecast support until sometime next year

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 9 December 2016 03:31 (two years ago) link

Shit quality like they're actually streaming in SD? Lots of compression artifacts? Stuff like that?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:17 (two years ago) link

Lots added in the last few days.

Filmstruck:
Cairo Station
The Return of the Prodigal Son
The Sixth Day
The Sparrow
Saladin
Alexandria, Again and Forever
An Egyptian Story
The Land
Cairo As Told By Youssef Chahine

The Tall Blond Man With One Black Shoe
La Moutarde Me Monte au Nez
Paris 36

Criterion:
Koko: A Talking Gorilla
My Crasy Life
An Innocent Witch
A Story from Chikamatsu
Eternal Return, The
Endless Desire
Heat Wave; Oil-Hell Murder (both Hideo Gosha)
Poil de Carotte (Duvivier)
Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne, The
Ask Father (Harold Lloyd short)
Boudu Saved from Drowning
Oliver Twist (Lean)
Courage for Every Day
Uncle Yanco (Varda)
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
American Soldier, The
Junkopia (Chris Marker)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:25 (two years ago) link

good stuff!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 26 December 2016 01:55 (two years ago) link

When they go Roku I think I'm totally in.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 December 2016 22:11 (two years ago) link

They said "early December" for the Apple TV and it was available on Dec. 1st. They're saying "early 2017" for Roku so I unrealistically have my hopes up for Jan. 1st.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 26 December 2016 22:52 (two years ago) link

Looking at that aforementioned list, it seemed like a million titles were leaving the service. Does that mean the Criterion Collection, assuming you pay for it, is a constant, but everything else comes and goes?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:07 (two years ago) link

I think that's mostly true -- Downhill Racer and Mulholland Dr. are on short engagements on Criterion and I think they'll be gone from the site entirely.

I guess I should watch that huge collection of Chaplin Keystone/Essanay/Mutual shorts before they're gone on 4/21, because they're not on the Criterion side.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:35 (two years ago) link

Even if you’re paying for the Criterion Collection, not all of the titles are available at once. I’m assuming they’re rotating that stuff, too.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:21 (two years ago) link


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