Search & Destroy: Sun Ra

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do u mean "Other Planes Of There"? that one's in my "to listen" pile!

sleeve, Friday, 28 October 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

re-watched a Joyful Noise, required some spiritual succor

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 November 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

er rewatched it last night because I required some spiritual succor

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 November 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Missed the Arkestra the other night in DC, but Instagram videos from it looked good. 92-year-old Marshall Allen still at it on sax.

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 November 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link

re the new singles collection:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/11/21/sun-ra-feature/

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link

Clips w that article are pretty sweet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

There's so much understated genius in this. I don't care what anybody says. (Not that I've ever run across anyone saying anything negative about it, but just in case.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS5u5TU00vM

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 1 January 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link

"out there a minute" was one of the first ra records i heard; an uncle had a copy of the LP (missing "next stop mars" from the CD). it's still one of the ra records i go back to; the stuff on it is among my favorite of his new york stuff (i don't listen to the heliocentric worlds/magic city/atlantis stuff hardly at all).

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Sunday, 1 January 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Out There a Minute was the first Sun Ra album I ever bought and it remains my favorite. (I had heard a fair amount on the radio and seen Sun Ra live at least a few times by the time I bought it.)

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 1 January 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/franckbiyong1/status/816911233400053760

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

just one thing I would like to see on 1/20

great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 6 January 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

just picked up this book from the library -- pretty solid so far
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1G-Zp5VIAEyr2f.jpg:large

tylerw, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

tyler have u read Space Is The Place? it is very very good imo

I have not seen or read that one you posted, looks interesting

sleeve, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah, the Szwed book? It is really good ...
this one is pretty brand new, i believe. less a biography and more of a dig into Sun Ra's influences / influence, it seems.

tylerw, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

ooh that sounds like just what I need. Swed's book is excellent. I should probably revisit it sometime.

great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 6 January 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

i listened to "the eternal myth revisited" set a couple years back. less a cd set and more a really long radio show type thing. it's really excellent.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 6 January 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

I dip into Szwed's book at random fairly often, it's so rich

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

some notes made while listening to the aforementioned new singles set---started these comments on What Are You Listening To; here's more after listening more:

Sun Ra's Singles---The Definitive 45s Collection 1952-1991: 63 tracks, a lot more than the one on the Evidence label (this is on Strut), and from the original masters, while at least some of the Evidence collection was from the low-budget 7" vinyls. Sounds great, and while the guest singers (who gradually disappear, as Ra and the Arkestra speak and sing up, occasionally but very assertively), are uneven, they all shine sometimes. My favorite is Yochanan, AKA The Space Age Vocalist and The Man From The Sun, who belts 50s novelty free r&b numbers "M uck M uck (Matt Matt)" and Skillet Mama" and also delivers the word from further afield.

The two opening songpoems by Mr. Ra are instant grabbers.”I Am An Instrument” is very sweet and humble, waiting for the player; “I Am Strange” begins in the midst of a man’s amazed and somewhat apprehensive self-awareness, his vibrations, then moves through the window to the wind’s imploring, perhaps lamenting regard of the man, whom the wind cannot approach too closely; can only wait and call for the man’s contact, must submit to this desire, for windy powers are too great for initiative (this seems like the genesis of My Brother The Wind). More songs than the previous singles collection on the Evidence label.

The rock 'n' roll/r&b appeal of some vocals and more instrumentals, (including the original Sun Ra single versions of “Rocket No. 9” and “Love On Outer Space”, both of which are covered on NRBQ’s 2016 monster box High Noon, and reminding us that Q-pilot Terry Adams long ago declared that his band was the child of Sun Ra and Sun Records) can also come across kinda Latinoid, in a way that could attract the soul jazz club-goers, Chicago electric bluesters---all of it fitting into what some older customers of my Deep South music store in the 90s meant by "blues", sometimes. And, early on, some straight-up swing---nice, sometimes a little neat for my taste--and some tentacles extended, but soon assimilated, though not forgotten---this is Disc I, on II things def get out, though "The Bridge", which is cosmic and must be walked after "fire is poured on dry leaves" and one way left to go, is immediately followed by "I'm Gonna Unmask Batman" and it keeps zig-zagging like that. And the catchier pop-blues-jazz approaches stuff can pull in darker rays, like on "Nuclear War": "Radiation breeds mutation" (group singers repeat), "And when they push that button, you can kiss yo' ass bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye." ("Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.")
After all several appearances by a frequently angry angel, the aforementioned sweet and humble “I Am An Instrument” returns, now pointing out that man is an instrument too, waiting for the plucking of his heart strings: “The heart can speak more than the mind” (thus providing a reminder of the mind passing the conductor’s bation, as demonstrated recently on “On Jupiter/Cosmo Drama (Prophetika 1)” by the angel, who may be fate and certainly sounds in a pleasant mood, on this occasion, with good news:”Something is, but nothing is too”,and while positives include “The life you liiive, and the thoughts you think, and the death you die”, negatives include immortality, because that’s impossible---”Election Day is coming, which one will you vote for? If you care to reach for thee impossible, that’s my department.”)

dow, Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link

i'm still really familiar with the old singles collection, which is just some great, classic ra. i do like some of the tracks that showed up on the '09 "rocket ship rock" compilation - ebah's version of "i am gonna unmask the batman" (surely one of the all-time sun ra classics) and the utterly demented "space stroll" by don (dino) dean.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 21 January 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link

Dang, Don (Dino) Dean's not on here! Another reminder that I need to check out Rocket Ship Rock and other stray comps. Also, turns out I was right the first time: The CD version of Singles---The Complete 45s is indeed three discs; anyway here's https://sunrastrut.bandcamp.com/album/singles

Also, speaking of guest/client vocalists, here's another one from my notes:
Hattye Randolph presents Sun Ra & His Astro-Infinity Arkestra with a seemingly unlikely gift, “Back In Your Own Backyard”, and they return the favor, simultaneously: this little blue mirrorverse is singing after supper, totally at home, knowing we travel even sitting back, and everywhere is outer space, also vice versa, like/in music maybe especially.

dow, Sunday, 22 January 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Verified Purchaser and Top 100 Reviewer Stuart Jefferson mentions these on Amazon:
There's also single CDs like the two volume set "Doo-Wop From Saturn and Beyond", with titles "Interplanetary Melodies" and "The Second Stop Is Jupiter". These sets contain largely unissued tracks but are still full of that Ra magic. There's also "Rocket Ship Rock" (more issued/unissued sides), and "Spaceship Lullaby" (vocal groups), both which are worth hearing for Ra fans.

dow, Sunday, 22 January 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've been listening to Monorails and Satellites, Vol. 2 for the first time. Nothing to say but wow, for now. I've been neglecting to keep up with what's become available on Spotify, now that apparently some issues with who has the rights to what have been thrashed out.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 11 February 2017 06:18 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

definitely picking up "discipline 27-ii" for RSD but what about "janus"?

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

it got one vote up and one vote down on this thread

i'm fascinated by the idea that bugs hunter was a big part of the janus sessions ... always loved his tape experiments on "cosmic tones" and the track below too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U6AHT5xfzo

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

that Discipline 27-II reissue looks great, too bad I probably won't be able to get my hands on it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

I'm lukewarm on Janus, seemed like a patchwork reissue with different sessions mixed up iirc

sleeve, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

i picked up both and i'm happy i did!

right now very much enjoying the sun ra and merzbow cd

the late great, Sunday, 30 July 2017 05:45 (six years ago) link

Bunch of great liner notes/things I haven't heard here: https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

yeah I just got turned on to that Bandcamp stuff via this

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/10/13/sun-ra-album-guide/

I know how I'm spending my weekend

sleeve, Friday, 13 October 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

this year i choose to listen to all sun ra, chronologically.

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

really been digging The Nubians of Plutonia recently.

calzino, Monday, 1 January 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

i'm only 21 albums away from it!

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 January 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

that journey covers a lot of astronomical units!

calzino, Monday, 1 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

is that including "the eternal myth, revealed"?

one year i decided i was going to listen to all of duke ellington's recordings chronologically. i think i got up to 1932?

bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, 1 January 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

is that including "the eternal myth, revealed"?

not at the moment, i don't think! i'm starting off with this as my guide: https://www.discogs.com/artist/2219395-The-Sun-Ra-Arkestra?sort=year%2Casc&limit=250&page=1

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

My friend saw one of the four Arkestra shows this past weekend. Marshall Allen is 93! Apparently he was supposed to sit some of it out, but I guess he played the entire time.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

http://campber.people.clemson.edu/earthlies.jpg

budo jeru, Monday, 1 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

has anyone ever owned or even SEEN a copy of hartmut geerken's discography?

budo jeru, Monday, 1 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

you mean the book titles “sun ra omniverse”? or something else?

the late great, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link

"omniverse" yeah, that's the one. looks like it was reprinted in 2015, but probably it was also revised / updated?

i can't find much about it except for a long and glowing review of the 1994 ed. on amazon.

geerken's own website doesn't help much, although it looks like the guy has written a LOT about SR (and in a number of languages).

http://www.hartmutgeerken.com/26.html

budo jeru, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

nevermind, this is the info i was looking for. among many other things, it includes a revised discography co-authored by christopher trent (who did "earthly recordings"). also the photographs look amazing.

http://artyardrecords.co.uk/omniverse-sun-ra/

from the art yard website:

The new, completely revised edition features:

Unpublished photographs of Sun Ra and the Arkestra by Hartmut Geerken and Val Wilmer.

Fully revised discography by Chris Trent, co-author of The Earthly Recordings of Sun Ra.

Articles by Geerken, Amiri Baraka, Chris Cutler, Robert L. Campbell, Salah Ragab, Gabi Geist and others.

New full colour images of hundreds of Sun Ra album covers, posters, handbills and ephemera, including reproductions of rare hand drawn and coloured LP sleeves.

budo jeru, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:48 (six years ago) link

I have the 2015 Art Yard edition. Worth it for the photos alone, nicely printed, and the discography is great to have.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link

that looks amazing. $72 via forced exposure

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

I have been sloooowly making my way through in roughly chronological order over the past few years but using this as a guide, which lists everything in chronological order by the oldest track on each record.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link

I have a copy of “omniverse”, I rarely look at it because (like most of the books i own) it’s simply faster and easier to look up info on the internet. but yeah, it’s a nice book for sure!

the late great, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

i have a small collection of ra related books

my favorites are “this planet is doomed” (edited collection of spoken word transcripts) and “space, interiors and exteriors” (poems, aye aton’s art, his photos of the murals in the philadelphia arkestra commune, production stills from space is the place, etc)

the late great, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link

if anyone here hasn't already read the "Space Is The Place" bio, that's very good as well

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link

Art Yard's been doing some cool releases too, I have a double 10" of "lost archive" recordings that's pretty damn good

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link

the pink one? i have a pink double 10” that’s amazing!!

the late great, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

yes, that one!

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link


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