― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― edde (edde), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I know I'm pretty much alone with my opinion. But for some reason, Pavement never GRABBED me after CRCR. I can't put my finger on it. But at the time, I remember thinking they had turned into an REM - just releasing variation after variation of their theme. I guess I liked em better scrappy, when the post punk influences were stronger than the jangle.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link
as far as checking out other albums, i've never read anyone saying, "oh, this one is really something!" instead, it's "they're all pretty good."
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― gentoo (gentoo), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 14 September 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 14 September 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― William Ryan Stuart Hamilton (Stagger Lee), Thursday, 14 September 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Lip balm on watery clay Relationships hey hey hey...
― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^best song on the album
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
platform blues
― dmr, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
"Major Leagues" = my life after thirty.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
people who don't like this album just because it doesn't sound like slanted and enchanted should listen again.
― the next grozart, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not one of their very best because it sounds cobbled together instad of conceived, hasty instead of thought-through, but I still love.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Their worst. Some of the songs are among their best but as an album it sure sounds like they were having a miserable time.
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
awesome album!
― Maria :D, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
that was me. though i think maria likes pavement fine.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
haha, i love this album. might not be the pavement album i reach for all the most, but i like it whenever i do reach for it. looking at the tracklisting now, i don't think there's a single song I don't like on it ... which i can't say about BTC these days. though the live versions of some of this stuff might be better, esp. "folk jam."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
pavement threads on ILM are always funny. WHAT IS THE BEST ALBUM!?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel I need to listen to this now. Oddly enough I watched Slow Century last night
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I pretty much hate the Nigel Godrich production (I usually do!) and at least half the songs are either cringeworthy or aimless but "Spit on a Stranger", "Major Leagues", and "Carrot Rope" are all aces
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
yesss carrot rope
― wilter, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
The Hexx is the jam too
― wilter, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I like Cream Of Gold. It is my least favourite Pavement album though. And not because it doesn't sound like S&E, I like Brighten The Corners just fine.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link
the problem with it is its the beginning of SM's guitar noodling-focused solo career and it sounds like it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah -- BTE is my favorite Pavement.
(xpost)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Shakey, there's hardly any noodling on the first and third solo albums.
I think I like the first Malkmus solo better than TT. He saved all the good songs for that one I reckon
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh I got rid of that first solo album almost immediately - altho I think it was the horrible lyrics more than the tuneless guitar playing that turned me off it.
Church on White was nice.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
off came those awful toe rings = off came that awful record more like
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I am a non-lover of Pavement (a liker, though) and I think it's great. I bought it because I loved "Spit on a Stranger" and wanted to put it on mixtapes (I was 14!! and had only heard Slanted). "Folk Jam" what is wrong with that? It's funny! I love the song "Billie," am i the only one? Once me and a buddy were smoking bowls and looking through old CDs and I pulled it and skimmed it looking for "Billie" and he says to me "This is easily the most boring thing that you listen to" and he may have been right. When the chorus came on he was nodding his head, though, cause man that chorus rocks!
― people explosion, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
"Billie" did the slow fadeout better than Radiohead at the time -- and it's funnier.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I forgot the line about architecture students! "Never build a building 'til you're 50, what kind of life is that?" This is so good.
― existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 9 October 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
My boyfriend & I in high school got in a tiff about whether "carrot rope" was about a wang. He'd asked me once if I thought it was about a wang and I had apparently said no in a manner that suggested he was screwy for even asking the question. But we were listening to it one day and when I said it was "an awesome song about a wang" he got mad and said I was always trying to make him feel like a pervert.
― existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 9 October 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:44 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark
^^^this. the drumming didn't help either
― ojo, Friday, 9 October 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
This album is the pits. Listened to it on a road trip recently for the first time since it came out, and somehow liked it even less this time. What a mess.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
love this album.
― scott seward, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
"the Hexx" also belongs in Shakey's good song pile.
― Cunga, Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I gave this album yet another chance recently (don't hate it but also don't plan on playing it much) and The Hexx actually did stick out as good. Still like the Fall cover best of everything related to TT.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 10 October 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I always liked Ann Don't Cry. The melody gets me.
If it wasn't a Pavement album would more people not hate it so much? Assuming nobody would have an issue with how derivative it would be of Pavement if it were in fact somebody else's.
― Evan, Saturday, 10 October 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Terror Twilight great! I like it + S&E and the rest I never much tried to get into.
― existential eggs (Abbott), Saturday, 10 October 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I really hope they end up giving this record the reissue treatment next year. Since the band is reforming, I'm guessing this will be a go. So excited!
― kshighway1, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"I like Terror Twilight great! I like it + S&E and the rest I never much tried to get into."
Either end and nothing in-between? Thats a strange one.
― Evan, Saturday, 10 October 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i think pavement should only play songs from this on their comeback tour
― thomp, Saturday, 10 October 2009 08:32 (fourteen years ago) link
also: 'date w/ikea', 'hit the plane down', etc.
― thomp, Saturday, 10 October 2009 08:33 (fourteen years ago) link
jesus, atp is starting to sell out already and they have announced no other acts
― thomp, Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link