"4:13 Dream" by the Cure

Grrrrrr not fair mutter mumble stupid australia.

They already announced Australian dates! Quit yer whinin'.

Actually *I* need to whine -- I've just realized that unless I'm very wrong their SoCal dates are exactly when I'll be in Hawaii. >:-( Bah. Well, at least actually seen them a few times.

*checks* Phew -- it's the week after. Yay, happy mood again!

No Ned you misunderstand - we're not getting 65dos (only one of my favourite ever bands atm) as a support :(

Also, $120!?

Ive never seen the Cure live. I probably never will.

we're not getting 65dos (only one of my favourite ever bands atm) as a support :(

Clarity. They're one of those names I've heard about but have not heard.

cover of the new album has leaked:

http://www.bentocorner.com/roller/resources/bentoblog/cure-blight.jpg

Matches the last album cover nicely!

How very them :)

(It'd be even better if it was real but hey.)

The $120 has scared me away too. I've seen them 3 times over the years, the last at RLaver and while it was THE CURE, RLaver sux big time as a venue.

Yeah its a fucking TENNIS ARENA man. Ugh. Talk about complete lack of atmosphere.

Still its probably better than Festy Hall.

Any word on how much ticket will be in the US?

I, for one, don't think US ticket prices matter one little bit. I missed Curiosa (first tour I'd missed since 1992), there's no way I'm missing them this time.*

* I can say this with confidence because I know my wife's performance schedule and she's not onstage that day; also my band hasn't scheduled a gig for that day and I will make myself completely unavailable to play if necessary.

Have they ever played the Hollywood Bowl? I'd go to see that.

(I have to say this is one of those times where I'm glad I don't live in the Twin Cities anymore.)

Have they ever played the Hollywood Bowl? I'd go to see that.

First time there, I think.

how I wish afi weren't on this bill in SF

hahaha

I would sit through AFI, probably. They're not so bad in small doses.

from chain of flowers:

PLANS

6/29/2007 5:28:48 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

IT NOW DOESNT LOOK LIKE THE ALBUM WILL COME OUT UNTIL AFTER THE USA TOUR...
YAY!

SERIOUSLY
THIS IS A GOOD THING!
AS ANY NEW SONGS WE PLAY WILL BE EXTRA UNKNOWN...
THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME KIND OF A SINGLE RELEASE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER...
AND PROBABLY SOME PROMO STUFF AROUND THE ALBUM RELEASE

I THINK THE ALBUM WILL BE A 'LIMITED EDITION' DOUBLE...
WE WILL SEE!

SO
LATE OCTOBER/NOVEMBER NEEDS TO BE FREE FOR ALBUM RELATED SURPRISE STUFF...

WHICH MEANS SOUTH AMERICA HAS BEEN JOSTLED TO THE BACK OF THE QUEUE BEHIND EUROPE...

OH NO!

BUT WE WILL GET THERE...
RSX
PS
THERE WILL BE USA DATES PRESALE INFO/PASWORDS UP HERE IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS...

Here's the next confirmed presales:

Sat-Sep-29
Chicago, IL Allstate Arena
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 12-Jul

Mon-Oct-08
Seattle, WA Key Arena
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 12-Jul

Wed-Oct-17
Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
Pre-Sale Date:Thu, 12-Jul

Tue-Sep-25
Boston, MA Agganis Arena
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Thu-Sep-13
Tampa, FL St Pete Times Forum
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Sat-Sep-15
Atlanta, GA Gwinnett Center
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Thu-Oct-11
Santa Barbara, CA Santa Barbara Bowl
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Sat-Oct-13
San Diego, CA Cox Arena
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Sat-Oct-06
San Francisco, CA Shoreline Amph
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 19-Jul

Mon-Sep-17
Charlotte, NC Charlotte Bobcats Arena
Pre-Sale Date: Thu, 26-Jul

The Hollywood Bowl show, which is what I'm aiming for, looks to be doing a separate pre-sale.

My God, there must be sth seriously wrong with the album for it to be postponed so many times...

120 big ones to see the cure in sydney. that's some fucken cheek

glad i've already seen them, with robbo smith howling for the whole 3 hours no less.

Lots of info in new interviews:

"Smith has a vision -- an extended one. He wants the new, as yet untitled record to be available as both a single and double album.

The Cure have form for double albums -- such as 1987's Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.

"Back then we were the band," Smith says. "If we'd said we wanted to put out a quadruple album back then, no one would have minded."

However, in the iTunes-friendly world of 2007, double albums have become the dinosaur of the music industry.

"I'm not stupid," Smith says. "I know commercially it's not a very attractive proposition to release a double album by the Cure. But I got the record company down to listen to it, to listen to what I'm trying to do, and they went away a lot wiser and happier.

"What we're doing isn't aimed at selling shedloads of albums on the back of a hit single. There's more to it."

Smith's vision is for a 13-track single album (to mark their 13th album) and a 26-track double album that contains several instrumentals. The double will feature different versions of songs on the single and he's hoping to use a different mixer for each record to create different moods.

Or it might not come out at all, if Smith isn't happy with his double vision.

"I'm not stamping my feet saying it has to be a double. If it doesn't work, I'll know. But I'm buggered if I'm going to get this far down the line and at least not try to make it work.

"I've always been our harshest critic. I don't need anyone else to tell me it's not good enough. We have 33 pieces of music, 20 of which have turned into songs. Six are great instrumentals. If it's put together in the right way, it'll work. If it doesn't, it's a f---ing great single album anyway."

SMITH is so passionate about the project he's halved his royalty rates so the double album can be sold at the same price as the single, circumventing any bleating from the record company.

"The cost of making a single album and a double album are the same. A disc costs about 10 cents. If you put a double album and a single album on the shelf, Cure fans will buy the double album. It's a no-brainer.

"But they think, rightly, that stockists in the big chain stores in America will look at a double album and go, 'Why?' and put the single album on the shelf. We'll see. If we do manage to get the double out it'll be an interesting experiment. I'm on a good bet with them the double outsells the single. I win something."

Oh and maybe this belongs more on the reissue thread but what the hell:

Cure fans will have to wait slightly longer for the next instalment of their re-issues. Next in the que are 1989's classic Disintegration, 1990's Mixed Up and 1992's Wish.
They won't surface until next year at the earliest.
"They're half-ready", Robert Smith says. "I gave up on compiling the extra disc".
However fans will be rewarded for their patience.
"The extra disc for Disintegration will be great", he says. "It's very atmospheric. There are some strange versions of some of the songs".
Meanwhile the remix album Mixed Up will come with a bonus disc of new remakes by "contemporary" remixes.

Smith has also discovered the missing tapes for the 80's live concert The Cure in Orange, which will be issued on DVD along with 1993's Show.
Rifling through old Cure tapes in his archive isn't only good for material for bonus discs.
Smith has uncovered 3 songs which he's reworking for the new Cure album.
"I was loath to put them on as extras; I'd thought they'd work well if they were played by this band", Smith says.
"One's really early, between Pornography and The Top, from 1983. The other are from the Kiss Me period, 1986-87. I'm sure I'll find more, we did loads of stuff that didn't get used on Disintegration".

Smith is also preparing a comprehensive DVD for The Cure's 30th anniversary in 2009.
"It's all the live footage that hasn't come out, lots of TV stuff I've got on video. That's the full stop. Once that's done, that's it for the re-issuing and remastering".

I am torn between feeling quite excited and worried that they have to use scraps from 20 years ago. That can't be good right?

Really looking forward to the Mixed Up reissue.

"The extra disc for Disintegration will be great", he says. "It's very atmospheric. There are some strange versions of some of the songs".

Oooooh now THAT I want to hear.

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Cureness

double album? plz to go all progressive on us :-D

I am all for this of course. And thank god Mixed Up IS coming out.

Hollywood show on sale tomorrow. I would have done the presales but there's a four ticket limit and our bunch is at least five. Oh well! I'm not expecting great seats, just enjoyable ones.

I rather hope that the second Mixed Up disc includes the two mixes from then that didn't surface on Join the Dots -- "Let's Go to Bed" (I forget who by) and Keith LeBlanc doing "Primary."

Presumably Wish will include the Lost Wishes cassette.

I have seats for Gwinnett Arena :D so fucking psyched. My gf has seen the Cure live but I haven't.

Anyone else going to the Houston or Dallas show? I have tickets for both, 12th row center in Houston and 3rd row center in Dallas. So psyched for these shows...

Ahh, the 'Let's go to bed' milk mix. The best mix of that era really.

I've got tickets to the Chicago show, v v excited. Never had a chance to see them before.

Not just the Milk and Red mixes (though they're mega-essential, esp the LeBlanc one), he'd be better off collecting other existing remixes rather than commissioning more Blank & Jones-style own-the-rights new versions...

And I have my tickets. Rock. I was sad to miss the 2004 tour -- first time I'd missed a big tour since _Wish_ -- but this is EXACTLY what I want, a full on headlining show, not festival set nonsense.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003624356

New Cure Album Shifts From Fall To Next Spring

August 10, 2007

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Originally due in early 2007 and then bumped to the fall, the new Cure album will now not see the light of day until next spring, according to a Geffen spokesperson.

Frontman Robert Smith is still recording material for the planned double-disc set but ran into a time crunch with an impending North American tour on the books. That outing begins Sept. 13 in Tampa, Fla. The band is presently in Australia for three shows, beginning tonight (Aug. 10) in Sydney.

"Whenever I think we're finishing it, it becomes something else," Smith told Billboard in late June. "We recorded all 33 backing tracks with scratch vocals last April, May and June. Then I took a break to kind of knock the words into shape and figure out which of these songs are going to make the album."

From there, Smith got sidetracked by work on the Cure live DVD "Festival 2005," but returned to the album material in March. "We've now reached the point where I've lost track of the number of songs we've got," he said. "There's an A-list of 30 songs on the wall."

Tracks due to make the cut include "Lusting Here in Your Mind" ("It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me," Smith said), "The Hungry Ghost," "The Perfect Boy," "Christmas Without You" ("That's not a very happy song," he said) and "Please Come Home."

"There are songs about relationships, the material world, politics and religion. They're very upfront and dynamic," said Smith of the new songs. "People will be surprised how stripped-down and in-your-face the record is."

as long as it sounds better than the last one. i guess if they aren't even pretending to have keyboards on this I won't be miffed that they've been mixed out this time.

Oh man, I have to edit the thread title again? (I really shouldn't be surprised it's another four year gap between albums...)

Oopsy:

PRESS RELEASE 24/8/07
Body: 24/8/07
North American Fall 2007 Cure shows re-scheduled for Spring 2008

With all apologies for any inconvenience or disappointment it may cause, we have made a decision to move the September/October 2007 North American Cure shows to April/May 2008.

The schedule as it stands only gives us a couple of weeks to finish our new double album before we hit the road again, and we know this just isn’t enough time to complete the project to our total satisfaction.

Although this last month’s tour of Australasia showed that a great Cure show is not dependent on a new Cure album, it has to be remembered that we hadn’t played Australia for 7 years, New Zealand for 15 years, Japan for 23 years(!), and Singapore or Hong Kong ever before – so the absence of ‘new’ songs in the set was not really much of an issue.

However, we want to remodel/rework the live show for North America, change things around, incorporate new songs… and we need time and focus to do this.

So although we can agree it is a great shame to move these dates – believe us we have been looking forward to them more than anyone! – and know there will be a lot of disappointed people out there, we honestly feel that in the bigger picture we are making the right decision.

All tickets held for all 2007 North American Cure shows will be valid for the re-scheduled 2008 shows, and of course anyone who seeks a refund will be able to get one.

All validity/refund/rescheduling details will be announced as soon as we have them.

We are still going to headline the San Francisco Download Festival October 6th, and we will still be performing at the MTV Latin America Awards October 18th.

We will also play the three scheduled Sports Palace Mexico City shows October 20th/21st/22nd, as by this point we feel sure we will have finished the new album, and will be more than happy to start dropping a fresh song or three into the set each night…

Once again, our genuine apologies to anyone who is upset by this announcement - please be encouraged by our promise:

The Spring 2008 Cure shows will be even better than the Fall 2007 ones would have been!!!

See you all soon…
Love

Robert, Simon, Jason and Porl – The Cure 24/8/07

If this turns out to be the same weekend as EMP I'll be annoyed. (And this had BETTER NOT mean a substitution of Coachella for a standalone date.)

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/05/noooooooo.jpg

Robert's looking a bit satisfied with himself back there.

urgh... This is turning out to be the Cure's 'Chinese Democracy'

shit :(

Meantime, Porl seems to have turned into Billy Corgan. Are those tattoos?

http://cache.umusic.com/MCAImageUpload/1589606-Full.img6074.8-07.vella.small.jpg

Chain of Flowers has handily collected a bunch of Robert posts from the main site on the whole recent hullabaloo, which can make for some amusing reading.

all-caps is cruise control for cool eh Bob