-- s1ocki (slytus...), September 12th, 2004.it was called "ice by ice".
― mason butler, Monday, 13 September 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Lyrics, fill in the gap -- Drop that bass and get the NINJA RAPFeel it, if you know what I mean -- Give it up for those heroes in greenJust flowin, smooth with the power -- Kickin’ it up, hour after hourCause in this life there’s only one winner -- You better aim good so you can hit the centerIn it to win it, with a team of four -- Ninja Turtles that you gotta adore it’s the:
Ninja, Ninja, RAP! Ninja, Ninja, RAP!GO GO GOGo Ninja, Go Ninja, GO; Go Ninja, Go ninja, GO!Go Ninja, Go Ninja. GO; Go Ninja, Go ninja, GO!GO GO GO GO
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
So you get the Gas Face.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Shakey, you should read Phil Dellio's mathematical proof of Milli Vanilli being better than Bob Dylan. It's better than anything I could write about them. (Though I do think they were okay. I confused them with Bobby Brown at first. And Frank Farian was a genius; he had already proved that with Boney M.)
― chuck, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I eagerly await your critical contortions.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
"Rico Suave" did not blow me away, though.
― chuck, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 September 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd MUCH rather hear 3rd Bass than "Ice Ice Baby," and part of it is an issue of exposure, but it's also the fact that 3rd Bass released some great fucking music - fucking triple layers of darkness and the Gas face. I'm not arguing Ice was wack cuz he was popular, I'm arguing that the song just plain isn't that great.
xpost Shakey OTM
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Uh, wha? Chuck said that he heard it on a rap station and that it sounded a bit like N.W.A. to him; neither of these points give Vannila Ice "legitimate hip-hop credentials", and nowhere does he state that they do.
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I disagree with this idea myself, whether or not its what Chuck intended....I think that the hip-hop world, (and I don't mean "heads," I mean "the people" who listened predominantly to hip-hop,) largely resented him for blowing up, especially since he sold SO MANY copies, another example of whites benifiting from black musical developments etc.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
yay! I get to share one of my favorite quotes for the 80th time on ILX.
"see their song goes dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee. Ours goes dee-dee-dee-diggy-diggy-dee-dee DEE-dee-dee-dee-diggy-dee-dee. It's totally different."
-- manthony m1cc1o (anthonyisrigh...), September 12th, 2004.
aw, man! i totally wanted to post that!
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Indeed?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
This post is EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN!
In your opinion, 3rd Bass sucks more than Vanilla Ice because they accused V-Ice or Hammer of stealing a record and then looping it while doing the same thing themselves. This is apparently a legitimate criticism of 3rd Bass.
But if I come on here and accuse Vanilla Ice of being "mind-bogglingly stupid" for lying about his background, fronting like he was "street" or other such "authenticity issues" then I'm being rockist.
You can't have it both ways. You want to critique 3rd Bass, talk about their music, not some stupid "they don't like this pop song and said something rockist, therefore are awful!" shit. I think it's entirely natural for them to hate on Vanilla Ice. I wouldn't want a rock critic to take the position of authenticity, because as a critic he should be engaging with music at all levels. Look at it this way; I love R&B, but when Ice Cube says "fuck R&B" it makes me happy because its what I would EXPECT him to say, it's what I WANT to hear him say. He's no critic; he doesn't have to engage with it. He can front on it all he wants, because that's his cultural reality.
I think the Cactus Album is wonderful, not flawless but certainly a great album - production is terrific, it introduced the world to Zev Love X, and the songs are infinitely more listenable than anything on Vanilla Ice's first album (not to mention his subsequent "attempts.") I would consider "Ice Ice Baby" to be an average-to-decent song if it weren't for the fact that I'm entirely exhausted with hearing it spouted ironically by my peers, or requested by sorority sisters at parties. Because really, its an obnoxious song on the whole with not much to recommend it.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I also put on "Triple Stage Darkness" by 3rd Bass. No way does IIB beat this - the beats are catchier and funkier, the sounds more engaging and atmospheric in their layering, the sampled riffs more memorable.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link