WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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I hope for a multi-season mystery of what happened to arnold, then they reveal he accidentally tripped and hit his head on a rock. Or maybe it was auto-erotic asphyxiation.

mh 😏, Monday, 24 October 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Arnold is Dolores you guys

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Can't spell Dolores Abernathy without A R N O L D

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

I hope for a multi-season mystery of why in the name of fuck they leave the bullets inside the hosts sometimes. Maybe they'll leave it completely unanswered!

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 03:44 (seven years ago) link

Didn't get how a request for explosive use was communicated. & is that something that happens every time a guest improvises an apparently spontaneous plan with danger involved.

Just caught one of the story moderators or whatever the HQ job is called responding to the call & giving ok.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 07:10 (seven years ago) link

I guess that was just to communicate that THEY ARE WATCHING EVERYTHING

But I guess they are NOT ACTUALLY WATCHING EVERTYTHING if Thandie Newton can bury all those pictures without being noticed

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 10:52 (seven years ago) link

Is taht down to her being a host not a guest. & they've only been expecting hosts to follow pre-programmed storylines that they know the parameters of for the main part.
BUt looks like AI is becoming stronger even if it is just old programmes corroding and running into each other which isn't a way I thought those things worked. Certainly not to take on a life of their own.
But maybe I'm thinking of things in a more binary way than things will turn out to be. But I thought that was still the basic model idea for programming anyway.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link

They're not watching everything, just the guests.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link

That's not true. It's also been shown that they watch the hosts to check if they're deviating from their loops. The logistics of running the park seem all over the place though, bascially whatever's required to fit the (show's) plot

Number None, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link

last week stumble, this week faceplant. four episodes i told u

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

WW has the feel of one of those quickly vanished post-Lost shows from a few years ago (like Alcatraz) but one that sat in development and had a lot of money and stars thrown at it

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

Was brusque scando business woman scratching her nose while mentioning that she was sitting in the same chair she sat in when she visited with her parents meant to be a hint that she's a robot

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

What if all the guests and staff are robots and all the hosts are human

or something

Number None, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

This feels a lot better than those post-Lost shows (not just because of the $$$ and actors)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

I guess they didn't have the awesome feature of making us guess if x is a robot or not

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

But, yeah, the early maze conversation between ERW and Jeffery Wright did push the limits of "I'm going to be pointlessly vague about this to maintain suspense"

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

If you're interested, Vincenzo Natali has posted a handful of his storyboards for the recent episode on twitter: https://twitter.com/Vincenzo_Natali/status/790859254517395458

mh 😏, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

xp but also killed the suspense by sketching a lot of the mystery out immediately, it's already on action thriller rails

they are p meta upfront gamey about the rails tho so maybe there has to a deeper level to this etc zzz

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

That's not true. It's also been shown that they watch the hosts to check if they're deviating from their loops

That mostly seems to be the dumb QA team seeing if a robot has literally wandered off, not running brain diagnostics or anything.

I hope for a multi-season mystery of why in the name of fuck they leave the bullets inside the hosts sometimes.

Tbf they did have that little voice-over implying that the techs were rushed because QA wanted her back out right away.

At least they're making stabs at plausibility.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link

i like this show mainly because I like the actors and the set pieces but there are some annoying internal inconsistencies that don't make sense like, what is a day for the hosts vs what is a day for the guests? don't the hosts wake up every morning and repeat the same thing? then why don't the guests see the hosts acting out the same shit daily? and when do they clear the robot bodies away and clean them up? etc.

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

show is hella dumb but watching anyway

Spottie, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

well yeah sex robots

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

like, there seemed to be a point where evan rachel wood is with Bernard that happens in the middle of the night when she's apparently also with dude from House of Cards by the campfire. Did they just come take her out of the scene? doesn't that screw with the sense of reality for the guests?

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

show is hella dumb but watching anyway

― Spottie, Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:08 PM (eight minutes ago)

same

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

drink every time a new character is naked when they're introduced

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

finally caught up to this. i'm a vote for this show is fantastic.

Mordy, Sunday, 30 October 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

OK that last bit with Ford + Dolores was fantastic

the beardo douchebag technician is even lazier than the black hat douchebag wannabe Delos-owner, though

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

Good to know our clockmaker god carries a pocketwatch in his vest THPPBT

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

oh shit actual goosebumps

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

this show just earned everything it's asked of me.

Given the Lynchian nature of some of the sequences in this ep, I think my idea that we're watching a couple of different timelines in the history of the park might still end up being the case - but as above, I don't care anymore. This is getting really good.

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah this was an excellent episode, and the trailer for what's to come is rather exciting (thandie newton in a jumpsuit leading a swarm of armed invaders into the HQ)

akm, Monday, 31 October 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

Also this episode made it pretty clear - to me, anyway - that the park operators and hosts have more in common than they do with the guests, including that most of the park techs joke about being recycled or whatever as a means to stave off the anxiety that they might be a "host" themselves.

And did I miss it earlier or is the same technology used to repair and clean the hosts the reason why illness and disease have been eradicated in the "real world?" Has that been made explicit?

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

i thought this ep was pretty bad! gratuitous in its presentation, tedious in characterization, parsimonious in the various 'mysteries'

still hooked tho :/ fuckin hbo

goole, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

the douchebag & dork nonbuddies are so uninteresting and unconvincing

goole, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

This is the first episode where I really got in tune with Dork Nonbuddy (that is his name now, thanks): He put a lot of work into his "hmm, maybe I should shoot this robot that is choking my new BiL" look, and then again when it was time for the "why do I care so much about what you think, robot girl?" look, and then like four more times when he had to chew it up with no lines. I officially care about what happens to this guy that barely talks! That's good TV.

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

Dudes name is McPoyle always will be

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 31 October 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

his motivation is "i am a good man," but if there's any commentary on videogamers here it ought to just be "i don't have much interest in sex robots, also i'd like to see what the good-guy quest lines are on my first run through but my friend keeps capping the npcs, it's so annoying"

among repeat players you'd see the userbase coalescing into types if not factions: scuzzbags who just like to kill and fuck, push the limits of pvp violence and trolling; true LARPer types who get really committed to their character and the immersion of it (whether as hero or villain); and completionist/a-press weirdos who want to experience every last thing, map out the underlying rules/patterns and explore every weird glitch.

goole, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

And those bathroom gamers who are secretly shitting by the hitching posts

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

are you a gamer, goole

mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

I'm watching a few more of these, just started ep 4. I find the trick is to tune out the dialogue pretty much completely whenever one person has been speaking for more than 5 seconds. And simply finding other things to do during everything set outside of the park, in the control room or whatever, cause the "as you know gentlemen" is off the fucking charts in this thing

why is borgen even in this

did we ever get wizz sorted (wins), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

meta commentary about emmy chasing in this latest 'sode

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

and the allure of turner network television syndication

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

lol

Cast
Main cast
Evan Rachel Wood as Dolores Abernathy, as the oldest host; she is a Western girl who discovers her entire life is an elaborately constructed lie.[4] Her aesthetic drew influences from Andrew Wyeth's painting Christina's World as well as Lewis Carroll's Alice.[5]
Thandie Newton as Maeve Millay, a host; she is the beautiful and sharp madam of Westworld.[6]
Jeffrey Wright as Bernard Lowe, head of the Westworld Programming Division and creator of artificial people, as well as the current manifestation of Nyarlathotep, who was called from beyond the darkness to unleash the inscrutable nightmare of maddening hellfire and mind-numbing insanity.[7]

did we ever get wizz sorted (wins), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

I bet my kid can pronounce Nyarlathotep though

ELECTION (no comey I) (El Tomboto), Monday, 31 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

Basically I'm waiting for S1 to end and come out on DVD before I dive in.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 31 October 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

man I really hope the McPoyle = Man in Black theory isn't true

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

all of the conversations of Anthony Hopkins, etc, seem to indicate we're seeing things that are happening contemporaneously and not two different time periods so uhhh idk how that could be the case

mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

the main pieces of "evidence" seem to be the different versions of the Westworld logo in certain scenes and the fact that McPoyle and friend haven't interacted with many of the main characters other than Dolores. There's a lot more evidence that points to it not being true but that hasn't stopped the fanboys tying themselves in knots about it (and the show was created by a Nolan brother...)

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

spoiler: it's actually named for the guy who created it, Mr. West

mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

"Wake up, Mr. West!"

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 31 October 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link


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