... And You Will Poll Us By The Trail Of Dead - album poll

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Heh, overlooked

Evan, Monday, 24 October 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

Have put together a (chronological) CD-80 of my own, heavier on the first few records and only two tracks in common with Imago's but I do plan on giving all his picks a second chance:

1. Fake Fake Eyes
2. Prince With a Thousand Enemies
3. Mistakes and Regrets
4. Claire de Lune
5. Sigh Your Children
6. How Near, How Far
7. Heart in the Hand of the Matter
8. Relative Ways
9. Crowning of a Heart
10. A Classic Art Showcase
11. The Rest Will Follow
12. Goldheart Mountaintop Queen Directory
13. So Divided
14. Isis Unveiled
15. Fall of the Empire
16. The Doomsday Book

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 24 October 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

haven't really thought about what my favourite trail of dead song is but my instinct would be to say another morning stoner, and i am perplexed and dismayed at its omission from these cd80s.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 October 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Gavin's taste is much more in line with mine it seems. For instance, speaking of Elena's Tomb, I do not like the last two tracks and for awhile Crowning of a Heart was my favorite song by them.

Evan, Monday, 24 October 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

this has been one of my favorite youtube videos for years. Trail of Dead in 2003, they start going into Richter Scale Madness but the stagehand is desperately trying to signal that their set time is up. they keep playing out of spite and the dude starts getting really heated and they start fucking with him hard. then they trash the stage lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYl9-zDb64

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

idk if this fits on one cd but my essential tod would be something like:

let it dive
wasted state of mind
how near how far
all saints day
awestruck
ebb away
bells of creation
the dragonfly queen/how to avoid huge ships
baudelaire
pictures of an only child
fields of coal
relative ways
weight of the sun
a classic arts showcase
the wasteland

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

Hahahaha. That is amazing. Seriously what is the dude's problem? Xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

i guess that was their thing, i saw them on the co-headline tour with qotsa in 2002 and they played way into qotsa's time. jason took the drum kit apart mid-song and put it back together out on the floor in the crowd. was a top 5 live show for me for sure. not for the qotsa set tho, for some reason they seemed ticked off.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Haha are you sure that isn't some character one of their roadies is playing? It was kind of too perfectly timed and executed!

Evan, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

Great stuff from whoever doesn't cut their power

Also great stuff in these alternative mixtapes. They have a lot of v good material

imago, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

a classic arts showcase is v underrated

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

the lyrics are extremely dumb but "a classic arts showcase" -> "let it dive" is my favorite moment in the tod catalog

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

That whole album is like that

imago, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

ah i love the lyrics in ACAS, but yeah that run is great

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

The only song I'm sometimes unsure about on WA is The Best and even that's pretty great some days

imago, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

"the best" rules

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

and yes "the lyrics are extremely dumb" goes for basically any song on worlds apart except for like "caterwaul"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

for 'wasted state of mind' alone, i am very tempted to drop a vote on divided.

mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

and the title track ..

mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

the two on my mixtape ^_^

imago, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm still torn between WA and IX btw - although for a band with such a contentious discography, 'returns to form' etc I find their albums from ST&C onward to be of remarkably consistent quality

imago, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

i clearly need more albums by this band.
i only have source tags, so divided and lost songs.
but each time i play them i end up realising how awesome they are.

mark e, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

i will not rest until you are in love with tao of the dead imago, stick with it imo

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 24 October 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

It's my own poll ffs, but the deeper I delve into their discography, the less sure I am of what to vote. Probably still ST&C. And yet, and yet...

Really feel Madonna isn't getting nearly the love it deserves. The obliterating rage, the palpale sense of having been deceived and mislead and dealing with it by scorching the earth, it's here mannnn. Lyrically they've not been that brutally honest, ugly even, before or ever after. Mistakes + Regrets ("If I could make a list / Of my mistakes and regrets / I'd put your name on top / and on every line under it"), Clair de Lune ("What good are promises, if nobody honours them... I DONT KNOW!"), all of Flood of Red, and even the forgiving sounding, melodic Mark David Chapman. They all completely floor me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 24 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

and yes "the lyrics are extremely dumb" goes for basically any song on worlds apart except for like "caterwaul"

I find the evolution of their lyrics post-WA to be really interesting, going from the cringeworthy rockist diatribes of that album's title track to the more resigned, yet hopeful (and much more realistic!) "Pure Radio Cosplay" on Tao - the rare rock song that admits the genre is pure, silly dressup and revels in the artifice.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 October 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

Really feel Madonna isn't getting nearly the love it deserves

I was delighted to hear that Kevin Shields was a fan of "Mistakes and Regrets," or at least its opening.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 October 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

forgot all about this band. Tried source tags again. eh.

akm, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

I picked up Lost Songs again today - damn that opening run of tracks is a rush, has kind of an uptempo-Gish feel

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link

yes! i think ToD got reamed for Worlds Apart because it reminded writers of Mellon Collie. also, Conrad's voice is much higher and drier in the mix on WA than ST&C. from the p4k review: "I hear a gun held up to the head of Conrad Keely-- maybe the world's most terrible singer-- and a masked man telling him to sing pretty or die." He reminded them of Billy Corgan.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

it was an extremely tough one but I voted with my Pitchfork

hope IX doesn't get 0 now

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

I picked up Lost Songs again today - damn that opening run of tracks is a rush, has kind of an uptempo-Gish feel

this post made me hit lost songs today : you are spot on.
its an insane rush.

mark e, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

^^ same! And the comparison rings very true. It's the drums especially bringing that Gish feel.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

it was an extremely tough one but I voted with my Pitchfork

― imago, Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:24 PM

Don't know what this means but it sounds awful tbh :-/

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

THAT WAS FOR 4.0 MOTHERFUCKERS *clicks vote*

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

lol

imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Haha awww yeah :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

ta LBI for setting up this thread as i had put this band aside,
whereas now,
they are back in the 'dont f*cking forget how good they are' playlist.

mark e, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

from revisiting over past few days, biggest takeaway for me is that although i had lost songs pegged as my favourite post-WA already, i think i actually forgot just how good it is. ST&C, WA and lost songs maybe a tier unto themselves for me. also, i think there is some rose tint looking back on the s/t. the half of it i remember is the good half, and half of it is p disposable. half of what, while i am on halves, is still amazing tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

Worlds Apart deserves it imho. P4K maroons will probably give the 25th anniversary edition of it a 10 or something.

Voted ST&C in the end, but feel so divided. If anything this poll has reminded me to listen to these awesome guys more often.

Xp No prob Mark E, it's exactly how I feel right now!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

Voted ST&C in the end, but feel so divided.

i see what you did there.

mark e, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

;)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Voted ST&C in the end, but feel so divided.

i see what you did there.

― mark e, Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:49 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well those two albums are worlds apart

Evan, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

oof

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

yes.... IX worlds

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

^^ nailing ToD's brilliance.

Love Roberto's observation, feeling p much the same way. Those three form some sort of a trilogy in a very strange way.

Xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 27 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

what's the opposite of recency bias lol

imago, Thursday, 27 October 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

as this thread was progressing i had a feeling we might be heading for a loopy result here but ended up being pretty sane. v glad that the love for WA isn't as marginal as i used to think. also v cool that there is an enclave of appreciation for this band here.

sure i have before but anyway, have to share my top TOD trivia, w/. added personal resonance - conrad was born in george eliot hospital in nuneaton.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

There's four I could have voted for but went with Centuries in the end. STaC is their most *significant* release so it makes sense that it won I guess.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link


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