DOOM (2016)

def gonna post in here when i get there tho'.

found it used for $25

idk why but i find it v upsetting playing this game

it's clearly a good game don't misunderstand it's just something about the theme and the style and noises and the gameplay just makes me feel v stressful + anxious

because demons pop out of nowhere and try to rip u in half

Yes probably that

IDK I kinda ride the industrial metal and adrenaline wave through the levels like a berserker. Gameplay not suited to all tastes tho for sure. :)

i'm very bad at finding secrets

it took me forever, but I have returned to this game and finished it

I am the Doomslayer

this game is so great. just got to the Mars Hell area and it is very nice. the old DOOM was mostly about aliens-style space bases, the actual Hell stuff was always teased but never really portrayed. DOOM II had a half dozen or so Hell levels towards the end of the game (Map 29 "The Living End") that attempted to do caves full of demons but DOOM 3 was back to being about space bases again.

it is done so well here, jumping from platform to platform shooting at demons that are throwing green fireballs from the other side of a chasm, they have the necessary candle-littered shrines, the pentagrams and evil talismans/glowing skulls. it is cool and evil and def feels like i am in a Mercyful Fate album cover. A+ game where's the sequel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o48clqgTWc

Map 28 The Spirit World was the Hell level i was thinking of, it has these rivers of lava and floating pedestals and stuff, Barons of Hell and Spiderdemons. it's pretty insane, but you can tell they can only do so much w the tech at the time. with the new DOOM they can really do some cool Frazetta-style fantasy landscape looking stuff.

i was just strafe fighting some cacodemons w a rocket launcher <3 this is classic gameplay. the slow projectiles are something i miss from other shooters, in DOOM you can actually dodge fireballs, it makes it all the cooler. if someone shoots at you in Far Cry or Bioshock you can't dodge that shit.

Map28 vid really taking me back. New doom is too real for me.

i loved DOOM II. my favorite level ever was map 29.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqAWqH4iQQY

it is this series of encounters, all with different art design/textures, this weird spiral that winds it's way up a huge lava pit. there are some really cool areas. the music absolutely rules. new DOOM has good music but DOOM II's is just so damn good.

the room at 1:55 with the strobe light and the giant pentagram over the demon's face is so awesome. i don't think there are many rooms in videogames that can top how metal that room is.

I always imagined the flickering light was natural, from bad wiring or a candle. Feels kinda gauche if the demons are DJs with strobe light setups.

The Doom Eternal footage that's been shown is... something

can't wait to rip and tear

I'm not sure how that unbelievably shit sub-Denis Leary PCU-ass "mortally challenged" joke came from the same team as the amazing keycard/wheely chair bit

reminds me of when I found out that Blizzard used to have the scripting/plot team completely separate from most of the game development. like one team's busy drawing orcs and demons and crap, then someone writes a story and dialogue and cutscenes at a later date and has the gameplay development team make minor tweaks

classic id games (Doom, Quake, etc) never even had the story/script people

Yeah, dumb, careless touch that only served to bring the wrong kind of attention.

Gameplay was even more amped up/ridiculous than I expected. All the extra movement options are gonna be fun. Really dig the new environments they showed off.

Demon that got his head bonked into his body cavity as a glory kill was an unexpected highlight.

I'm somewhat iffy on the giant open area part with the character doing multiple sideways dashes midair and the myriad of jump pads. seemed very Q3A-ish

I more meant I liked the look and variety
of style

Yeah D2016 had just the right balance of normal stages and playground Q3 stages and I hope that’s maintained. When the auto map was brought up it looked nice and complex like some of the better levels in 2016. Part of me worries they’re gonna Duke Nukem this with the OTT-ness. And I’m unsure about this blade and shoulder weapon, could be too many moving parts.

Still... v. excited.

didn't like the look of what they showed - too cartoony - but I did like some of the mechanics, like a grappling hook that pulls you closer to the enemy

the demo footage standard of skilled player + monsters do less than easy mode damage + show the number of monsters that show up in super hard mode is always ott

they did promise twice as many monsters!

Fucking. Yes.

https://youtu.be/39hX27jeN3Q

Cool. I never finished the last one, but I enjoyed playing it. How come this clip, for all its fancy 4k/60fps, makes me kind of motion sick with its jerky movements?

Enemy weak points this time around, so pays to shoot rocket launchers off of the Revenant or arm-guns off of the Mancubus etc., makes a satisfying *clink* sound when it happens and demons adjust attack modes accordingly. AI seems way ruthless, this is supposedly a good bit harder than the last one. Increased mobility with dash and things to swing on. Some platforming which I guess people think sucks in a FPS, but it looks like it’s done well here. Sounds like they took to heart the “repetitive” criticisms of the last one and there’s just a ton more variety here all around. Leaning hard into arcade, game-y mayhem. I want this now.

Xp

Footage is from someone playing on PC and they’re pretty good, so yeah, that’s what it looks like whipping around with a mouse and keyboard.

Oh also you’ve got a shoulder mounted flamethrower now and when you attack guys on fire it shoots out bits of armor. Nice addition to the glory kill = health, chainsaw = ammo, be-aggressive-to-stay-alive loop.

Looks beautiful. Hope that wasn't the "Too Young to Die" setting. Anticipating many deaths due to "jump … land … twitch … fall forward off edge".

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2020/3/17/21182306/doom-eternal-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-stadia

HaveHave you ever noticed how cop procedurals will signal that a messy-haired teenager is a real loner type by showing him playing a video game, sitting in a dark bedroom littered with junk food, the walls covered in heavy metal posters?

The game itself (because we always get to see gameplay, even though the show clearly can’t afford good computer animation) appears to be a parody of violent video games, all disembowelment and close-range executions. The teen, played by a 20-something actor, manhandles his poor controller, suggesting the game is either astonishingly complex or the teenager is dumb as a rock.

That’s Doom Eternal. All of it. The Mountain Dew and Cheetos. The Dream Theater albums. The hand-cramping controls. And the overwhelming sense that everybody involved is in on the joke, and having a good time. That lack of shame makes all the difference.

yessss

Yeah, I’m beyond psyched for this. Looks gleefully metal as fuck. Just pre-loaded it and will be firing it up when it releases at midnight.

The last one was, for lack of a better word, hyper realistic. This one looks much more cartoonish and even more ott. I'm curious what people think.

This is totally way more cartoonish. Like that Polygon article mentioned, straight up adolescent metal head’s day dream. Really different feel from the last one, but I dig it. It’s really hard. I played through ‘16 with only a few hiccups on Ultra-Violence, but this one’s kicking my ass on that difficulty only two hours in. Definitely feeling it making me better though. Dark Souls ethos.

If there’s a video game equivalent of ripping a couple of lines of cocaine this is it. After like 30 tries trying to clear an arena and finally doing I’m a shaking ecstatic mess. Intense.

I bought this (2016) back when on Switch, where the gyro aiming was essential to gameplay, imo. I bought it again when it was on deep discount for PS4, and had to set the difficulty level way down to compensate for lack of gyro. I'm sure I'll get used to it, eventually, but it was like playing with two left hands and no thumbs.

It’s kind of insane to me that they’re going to make this work on a Switch. I’m amazed at how good it looks running on this dusty ass PS4.

Apparently this is a little divisive with “gamers” on “the internet”. It’s a different game from 2016 for sure, but I feel like it’s massively deeper, more sophisticated, and more fun all around. The combat has legs. Style wise it’s a matter of taste, Evil Dead vs. Evil Dead 2. I’m an ED2 guy.

A lot more tools this time around. Overwhelming at first, but once it clicks it’s glorious.

definitely more cartoony

the level design seems even more straightforward with pretty good hinting. the only times that it's been tricky to figure out where to go is during the jump puzzles. the swimming puzzles are definitely the weakest point

those slayer gate challenges are absolutely brutal. going to have to go back and complete some of them with better weapons. thought that one of them was nearly done and then it dropped a half dozen hell knights at the same time. soooo much dodging and running, and the timing of when to blast enemies to get more armor is something that takes a while to get a handle on

not sure the multiplayer is for me, but i think if i tried it with a couple friends to better get a feel for it, it might work

Finishing the last levels of 2016's DOOM now. The hell guard / two hell guards section in Level 11 was hard enough on "I'm Too Young..." glad I'm not on Nightmare setting. Also glad there was a checkpoint between the two. Was constantly mistiming shots to stagger them for health / ammo so felt a rush of achievement when over, since I used up the BFG ammo on the single one.

I can't get past the first hell guard - I'm too lame for difficult boss battles so I gave up at that point. People on youtube make it look easy.

The Marauder in Eternal is an absolute motherfucker. I think with practice I'll get the rhythm down, but right now when he shows up it's a total panicked crapshoot. Arch-Vile also crazy dangerous, that's easily a priority #1 demon whenever he spawns.

Like the From Software stuff, I feel like I can only play this game at certain times because it can be incredibly taxing. And adrenaline-y, have trouble sleeping if I play it before bed.

I have dropped the difficulty down from Ultra Violence once or twice in hairy spots. Always ones involving the Marauder iirc. No real penalty for that btw, just a pride hit.

I've attempted a few Slayer Gates but have decided I'm going to make it to the last level or so and then go back for them. Will be a little more manageable with the combat loop more firmly ingrained and a full kit. They are no joke.

I don't know if and when I'd ever play this, but I do appreciate the apparent takeaway of the developers after the first game was "MORE!"

I, too, am still trying to get the Marauder rhythm down. Getting better, and on levels with lots of ammo re-ups you can use the remote detonating rockets to cheat and get him from the side while the shield's up

It took me too long on my first arch-vile encounter to realize the fucker was spawning in limitless enemies and I needed to track him down asap

I've watched a bit of a couple let's plays, and it's almost inconceivable that they can get this running on Switch.

there’s some magical new era tech that I am assuming the console versions use called “dynamic resolution scaling” that I saw in the PC version settings

it’s probably a bit less graphically intense than a lot of other recent games, it’s just got a much more frenetic pace

I want to play this, I'd just rather not spend 100 Canuck bucks on it.

"It took me too long on my first arch-vile encounter to realize the fucker was spawning in limitless enemies and I needed to track him down asap"

trying to FIND these suckers when they spawn in can be another panic. doesn't help that they don't have a particularly distinctive silhouette. i save my crucible charges for these guys exclusively.

https://games.avclub.com/why-does-doom-eternal-play-like-a-mario-game-in-hell-1842497854