Let's talk about Jack Kirby

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That book about Charles Schulz from a couple years back was supposed to be good - did anyone read?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:27 (seven years ago) link

Yes, I did. A bit of a curate's egg - good on the early years of the strip, not so good thereafter. At times, it felt that the writer was much more interested in Schulz's wealth, his celebrity, his extra-marital affair, than with the work itself (tho there was interesting stuff about the similarities between Lucy and Schulz' first wife, and the way that their sometimes tempestuous relationship played itself out in the comic strip). The family were heavily critical of it. Again, there are other books still to be written about Schulz.

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:36 (seven years ago) link

FWIW, I wrote a review of it here:

http://comiczine-fa.com/reviews/schulz-and-peanuts

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 20 October 2016 11:38 (seven years ago) link

Great review!

schwantz, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Yeah! I looked at the Spiegleman thing you mentioned too - that's so sweet

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

I read a story recently (when "punching Nazis" was a hot topic), saying that when Kirby was doing Cap-vs.-Hitler stuff in the early '40s, a couple of white power dudes called up to the Timely offices from the bldg's lobby and demanded to see the guy writing that stuff. Simon or other staffers cautioned him not to go, but Kirby rolled up his sleeves and went right down to the lobby (...only to find the guys had left). True?

morrisp, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link

yes that is true

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link

or at least several ppl have corroborated it (so it's as true as we could possibly know)

I got the Simon/Kirby Science Fiction omnibus out of the library. Some rough early stuff but man some really great work too.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

speaking of scrappin' jack:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-0/p480x480/17435992_1346050352108157_6971083734769542342_o.jpg?oh=8acad64ef2f43050084a92092488a7f0&oe=59562972

(these pix are from the 'jack kirby: king of comics' facebook page run by kirby's grandson btw)

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 March 2017 11:29 (seven years ago) link

dude is so much like my prone-to-screaming-argument jewish veteran gpa it's a little frightening

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

guys should i get this as a full-length back tattoo y/n

http://comicsalliance.com/files/2016/06/EB04f.jpg

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

My dumb work is blocking that image for some reason but it's presumably Kirby art so my gut says yes.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

First page of The Dingbats of Danger St? That's one for the more season Kirby reader.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

seasoned

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

it's like a kirby bingo full house

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

true heads go for back tats of Baron Von Evilstein imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

The weirdest stuff always has an element of comedy.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 2 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

tho it is missing kirby krackle so not entirely complete

I'm always thinking that opening line in my head while walking around doing chores etc

THIS IS HOW FAST THINGS HAPPEN ON DANGER ST

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 2 June 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

If you get it as a tat, maybe exclude the racist Asian caricature in the lower right corner?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

you mean Bananas?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Born 100 years ago today.

facing front, pilgrim

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 28 August 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

Hail To The King!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 August 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

Don't Ask! Just Buy It!

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 28 August 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

"Jacob and the Angel"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

The composition is amazing in that drawing

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

Anybody got the "don't dangle your gonads in my ear" panel?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

holy shit at jacob and the angel, that is gorgeous

hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

jfc I have a half dozen OG issues and would like the rest but this is insane

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0785122052/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1527201431&sr=1-4

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link

is it real or is it algorithmic

also presumably you get lurid colour reconstruction and bad repro or tracing in that version

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link

Eh i like the 4th World omnibuses just fine

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 May 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link

hopefully we get a reprint

btw this has been pretty great, not sure if anyone mentioned it yet
https://www.instagram.com/kirbycomic/?hl=en

Nhex, Friday, 25 May 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

Ah! Heard about that but also forgot about it. I love scioli

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 May 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

i like the 4th World omnibuses just fine

those are DC, Eternals is Marvel

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 25 May 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

Duh

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 May 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link

Are u telling me marvel is worse w this stuff? I like the Thor and FF masterworks volumes i have too. Yes the colors are brighter/more garish than the individual issues i have, but those issues also dont look that great themselves (color separations are often super-sloppy) and of course are also falling apart.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 May 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

Speculators who fix the prices of comics reprint collections at about the range of a large kitchen appliance should probably be, I dunno, arrested or deported or something. Branded, on the face, maybe? Nagh, that might be too much.

Trades of that Eternals material were available at reasonable prices when I acquired them a few years back. And it'll almost certainly be reprinted again prior to the release of the movie.

I have that Eternals hardcover, gotta say that the repro and colour on it are just fine as far as these things go. By the 1970s, Marvel had started to keep decent film of the original art, so there's less 'reconstruction' going on. TBH, the last few issues of Kirby's Eternals are fairly dispiriting - we get the 'Cosmic Powered Hulk', and the feeling that Kirby has somewhat lost interest or focus in the material. The first paperback collection of issues 1-8 is probably all really you need.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 25 May 2018 08:16 (five years ago) link

Are u telling me marvel is worse w this stuff

well yeah, prima facie. no idea about this hardcover in particular, but iirc DC gave up Theakstonising after three or four Archives.

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 25 May 2018 08:26 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

We saw this at the Marvel exhibit at the Seattle Pop Culture Museum:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1936/43064874440_c3cdde2088.jpg

DJI, Monday, 24 September 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

LOL, that's awesome

growing up in publix (morrisp), Monday, 24 September 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.inverse.com/article/53550-black-panther-2019-oscars-means-wakanda-won-not-the-movie

The first victory on Sunday night belonged to Carter, who won Best Costume Design. “Marvel may have created the first black superhero,” she said in her speech, “but through costume design, we turned him into an African king.”

i mean... sure, the initial design is a bit clunky but the basic visual elements are still very much recognizable. i get that t'challa's been reimagined for a new era and part of that era is not genuflecting too hard toward a guy who had a tendency to call the character "a black", but I do find it unnecessary to write kirby completely out of the process when much of his core visual identity was already (often excellently!) retro co-opted by an array of afrofuturist artists long prior to the movie!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link

The article you linked to seems to acknowledge Kirby (and Lee) pretty extensively, though(?)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

Sure, my beef is moreso with the costume/design team which i have never heard acknowledge kirby's input at all? I'm aware there was a concerted effort to truly Africanize the look and feel and I get that but Kirby is at the root and that's not something to be ashamed of.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

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