The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

From Pareene's article

However you apportion the blame, by Monday, everyone had moved on to the next thing, before the tape actually had a chance to settle in with an electorate that takes more than two (weekend) days to process campaign-changing news.

This is not a thing that happened though: every story I've seen about the allegations has mentioned the tape, but the press are (probably rightly) more interested in testimony that he did something than him talking about doing it.

is mulatto even a racist word? antiquated yes, but racist?

yeah, it is, as are all antiquated terms used for racial classification

Oh hell yeah:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/788867085891887104

Chuck Tingle – ‏@ChuckTingle

i will be on twitter representing THE BUCKAROO PARTY later as we discuss don trumps ways of the void please join me

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3:19 PM - 19 Oct 2016

the true hero of this election

chuck tingle is wonderful and a v good twitter follow

Great recent Chapo eps:

-Most recent one with Matthew Karp about how weird Antebellum racial science ideas ring thru to the modern alt-right scumfucks

-James Adomian from a couple weeks ago, doing Žižek teach sex and others

i get slightly worried about chuck tingle sometimes but he always seems to come through. an inspiration.

Trump seems to be really into "Drain the Swamp" as a line.

i'm now envisioning trump in a one man staging of 1776

'Drain the swamp' deflects attention away from his own shortcomings and ugliness and directs it toward the anger some voters feel about the federal government. Which seems smart, because he doesn't want voters to think very hard about what they are voting for when they vote for him.

a friend of mine is at the debate! her father in law (rip) used to do sound for the debates and they were nice enough to invite her and her husband in his memory

"You'll be able to hear it all, crystal clear!"

"...thanks."

Assuming there's no way HRC will carry Utah, it'd be cool for some Dems to vote for McMullin to deprive Trump of those EVs.

― nickn, Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:16 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tactical voting is/was the one good thing about uk politics. a real pleasure to do.

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Whut

I think a large part if not even the majority of trump's twitter followers are liberals waiting in earnest for him to say something stupid

As I understand it, the good people of San Francisco, CA generally object to the rather ugly coinage "Frisco" to denominate their fair city. It is normally used by clueless outsiders. This graph means that 199 clueless SF outsiders on Twitter used the word in their bios. Their relevance to Trump/Clinton is in the eye of the beholder.

Maybe they just like the gene wilder flick

"frisco" seems about as quaint as calling someone a "yankee"

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Frisco is a city located in Collin and Denton counties in Texas. It is part of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, and is located approximately 25 miles from both Dallas Love Field and Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport.

As I understand it, the good people of San Francisco, CA generally object to the rather ugly coinage "Frisco" to denominate their fair city. It is normally used by clueless outsiders. This graph means that 199 clueless SF outsiders on Twitter used the word in their bios. Their relevance to Trump/Clinton is in the eye of the beholder.

Not so fast there.

Frisco, Texas was the fastest-growing city in the United States in 2009, and also the fastest-growing city in the nation from 2000 to 2009.

MTV, please send Kaleb to Frisco for a feature.

Not so fast there.

My world is crumbling around me.

St. Louis has a popular frozen custard purveyor called Ted Drewes. They have, or used to have, a shake-like concoction called The Frisco; it included pineapple chunks and walnuts and I forget what else. Someone told me they call it a Frisco "because of all the fruits and nuts in it."

Been trying to decide what to drink tonight. There's beer, obviously, but that seems pretty boring. I can always go for bourbon, but a little goes a long way. Aged rum for sipping ... still not convinced of that. A good anjeo tequila could do it, but it seems too festive. Feeling too lazy to mix a drink ... though come to think of it, an Old Fashioned is easy enough and might hit all the right bases. Yeah, I think that's the right course. Or dose, as the case may be.

I had three Mike's Hard Lemonades left. Drank one. Two remain to get me through this thing. (Yes, I know, I'm a lightweight.)

I think that would give me heartburn.

yeah unlike bourbon or tequila

Nicole Wallace of MSNBC made several points:

(a) "Hillary Clinton will be the next president," she said in an aside, not a declarative sentence in its own right.

(b) Marco Rubio was the only man who did his party proud, she said, for questioning the use of hacked Russian emails. Today, she said, it's the Clinton campaign's emails -- tomorrow it will likely be yours. This is the obvious point no one wants to make.

(c) Rubio, not Pence, will be the candidate to beat because he took a "principled stand." A stand as principled as proposing not to finish a Senate run for the second time.

(d) The Trump campaign's "inner circle" is realizing it's over; they're worried now about their business interests.

it is 10am here and i can't decide whether i want to try and focus on this or not

thx tombot and others for clearing up my confusion about mormons and 'provo' earlier: i was trying to work out where northern ireland came into either us foreign policy's or the mormon sense of 'mission'

The idea that hillary will be shaken by any of these stunts is laughable
― Treeship

I can definitely see where having those four women there last time might be unnerving (she didn't show it), but Sarah Palin and Obama's half-brother? If anything, looking out and seeing someone as comical as Palin would be reassuring, I would think.

xpost It's the sugar in the "hard" lemonade that would do it. Bourbon and tequila sit fine with me. Maybe not together.

The last debate I watched in a dive bar in New Orleans' French Quarter via closed captioning (which I had to request; they had the debate on, but no sound *or* captioning, for some reason). No one else seemed to give a crap at all, though a couple of people were intrigued we wanted to move closer to the TV to read the exchanges.

If I was Clinton, I would yield my time to Palin.

Rubio, not Pence, will be the candidate to beat because he took a "principled stand."

didn't he also take a principled stand to not run in 2020 because he wants so badly to remain a senator?

I thought Mike McCurry was a Bush guy, but looked him up and yeah, now I remember--Bill Clinton's press secretary. This thing really is rigged.

http://www.twcnews.com/nys/hudson-valley/news/2016/10/19/trump-praises-rival-hillary-clinton-in-2008-ny1-interview-natl.html

― Evan, Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:00 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hold on, nobody wanted to talk about this? It's funny how "human" and dare I saw mostly coherent he sounds. Its release today seems like a direct answer to my question this morning.

(c) Rubio, not Pence, will be the candidate to beat because he took a "principled stand." A stand as principled as proposing not to finish a Senate run for the second time

feel like you're a little bitter that you'll be dealing with him for a while longer

re frisco, tx, a place once hailed by a neighbor as being a more or less all white suburb of dallas, had to rebrand the city mascot not too long ago

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(c) Rubio, not Pence, will be the candidate to beat because he took a "principled stand." A stand as principled as proposing not to finish a Senate run for the second time

feel like you're a little bitter that you'll be dealing with him for a while longer

― Mordy

You want him? I can sell him on eBay for a couple bucks.

ugh no i'm just hoping we can get rid of toomey

I like how Hugh Hewitt's jaw trembles whenever he says "Pat Toomey."

omg stop talking

not anyone on this thread btw

Chris Wallace is not playing, is he?

you guys should have started a fresh thread.

gonna get uglee

So does the oppo bomb drop tonight, or tomorrow?

Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace of MSNBC affirm Wallace's Very Serious FOX News Division credentials.