The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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Ads at this point in the game are more about getting people to the polls or to early voting and a lot less about convincing undecided voters, whoever the hell they are

90% of the effort in any campaign is getting your existing supporters to actually vote

mh 😏, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Dallas and Austin are fairly liberal areas of Texas

San Antonio too from what I understand (+ huge latino population)

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

I like the idea that people in Arizona, Texas, etc. have just been totally cut off from civilization, and all it takes is a couple of campaign ads to pop the bubble and break them out of their spell.

"Wait, wait ... huh? Where am I? What happened!? I had a horrible dream I was going to vote for Donald Trump, the only candidate, but now I have seen the truth. I have options!" [Votes for Trump anyway, because come on.]

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 17, 2016 12:02 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was just in Arizona last week, certain parts are seemingly remote enough to make that possible. What a beautiful trip, though!

Evan, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/10/13/the-washington-post-asked-clinton-trump-for-their-education-vision-heres-what-they-said/

The Washington Post asked the two major presidential candidates — Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump — to respond to an identical series of questions about their vision and plans for public schools should they become president of the United States.

. . . Trump’s campaign declined requests to answer the Post’s questions and instead provided the following comment and said it preferred “to direct voters to Mr. Trump’s plan” on his website. Here is Trump’s response as provided by Jessica Ditto, the candidate’s deputy communications director:

“As your president, I will be the nation’s biggest cheerleader for school choice. I want every single inner city child in America who is today trapped in a failing school to have the freedom – the civil right – to attend the school of their choice. I understand many stale old politicians will resist. But it’s time for our country to start thinking big once again. We spend too much time quibbling over the smallest words, when we should spend our time dreaming about the great adventures that lie ahead.”

Clinton’s campaign responded to the questions.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

https://youtu.be/Mn7OBOvJ2kI

Neanderthal, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Tight races remaining of course.

https://t.co/oczxMA25Hh

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Though this is of interest:

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/788049390728511491

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Explained further:

among registered voters, Clinton is up 5 and 7. CNN's likely voter model is knocking 4,5 points off Clinton leads...while lv and rv models appear to be converging nationally, CNN remains outliers

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

“This is Russian psy-ops. That’s what they’re trying to do."

"...we will outcraft them, by buying...in Texas." *tents fingers*

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

Haha, man, the right wing just cannot cope with weird Twitter *at all*

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/788038014144540672

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

One recent evening, Kukura placed a sign in the student center that read, “College Republicans: The Best Party on Campus.” Half a dozen students attended their first meeting of the year, amid empty chairs and empty tables.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-campus-trump-backers-learn-to-keep-their-opinions-to-themselves/2016/10/17/7925a318-8f06-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

yeah but the liberal media

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

I always vote for empty chairs oh wait

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

xxp couldn't have happened to a better grp of ppl

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

still baffles me that all these people who were perfectly willing to put sarah palin the proverbial one heartbeat away from the presidency are so shocked about trump

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

OK so dark hypothetical. suppose massive russian/external vote rigging and Trump wins the whole shebang by, like, 90% of all EV (because dictators never win by a plausible majority when an extraordinary majority will do...)

WHAT HAPPENS

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

You wake up and switch to better meals.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

acknowledge the wholesale failure of our system to resist such obvious tampering and start over

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

It's a thought experiment that should maybe be explicitly spelled out as frequently as possible. Dude would probably be riding high until he was actually in office and realized that he can't just say a dumb thing and make it instantly happen. By that point, Lil Baby Sniffles has moved past Twitter tantrums and realizes he has the power to legitimately cause destruction and ruin lives and expresses his infantile rage in a whole new way.

People Have No Idea The Support (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/788062678484869120

NEW Monmouth national poll, likely voters:

Clinton 50%
Trump 38%
Johnson 5%

Analysis: Weeeelllllpppp

Poll conducted over this weekend.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

re trumpists' belief or nonbelief in the election results, i don't think there's any reason to think trump will believe in the election results. his brain will reject them. people salivating over his imminent humiliation may be in for a shock. like most conmen he is also mark.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

so yes i see him stirring up mobs indefinitely, but after nov 8 w no pretense to any kind of democratic participation.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

read that as "stirring up morbs indefinitely"

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

and also:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/788050722495442944

"The Trump Heisenberg Principle of rigging continues to hold, that a poll is both rigged and not rigged until Trump's position is ascertained"

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

that's hillary's job, obv xp

difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

For when Trump inevitably whines about Monmouth:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/585406176541728768

Evan, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

so yes i see him stirring up mobs indefinitely, but after nov 8 w no pretense to any kind of democratic participation.

― difficult listening hour,

read that as "Morbs"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

Carl Unger -- he speaks his mind:

https://twitter.com/anna_orso/status/787371278126710784

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:52 (one hour ago) Permalink

As someone who lives 30-40 minutes away from Williamsport, I apologize for this

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

the comments on that are great.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

I was pretty bummed to see that within the past few days the number of Trump lawn signs in my neighborhood jumped from 2 to about 20. This of all weeks? Though it's nice of these houses to announce that they have pro-sexual assault folks living inside--you usually have to look that up on a sex offender registry site.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

And while I dislike POLITICO here's a mostly unsourced glimpse into the glumness inside Clinton campaign headquarters.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 17, 2016 11:55 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Annie is on the infamous list of "journalists" fed pasta with walnut sauce by wetwork expert John Podesta...who used to be called "Secretary of Shit" in the Clinton WH because he cleaned up their frequent messes LOL

Iago Galdston, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

read that as "stirring up morbs indefinitely"

me too

kinder, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

What's a walnut sauce?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

Pesto?

Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

that's what the msm wants you to believe

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

I notice our friend Iago doesn't consider the word journalists to be scary enough all on its own.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Hey Iago, is your AM radio show syndicated, and can you provide us with the airtimes by market? Thanks!

People Have No Idea The Support (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

podesta's risotto bona fides are certainly proven

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

talk about wetwork

difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Oh it wasn't a metaphor

http://hillary2016feed.tumblr.com/post/149080744037/chefs-for-hillary-salsa-di-noci-walnut-pasta-by

Evan, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

I think Iago wisely practices posting discipline so we can't trace him. One post a day in the politics thread, no more.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

He saw what happened to Morbz, doesn't want to end up a victim of some kind of rendition procedure.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i hear podesta has also been giving clinton advice on how to open pickle jars

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Annie is on the infamous list of "journalists" fed pasta with walnut sauce by wetwork expert John Podesta...who used to be called "Secretary of Shit" in the Clinton WH because he cleaned up their frequent messes LOL

― Iago Galdston, Monday, October 17, 2016 6:48 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://gamescatalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/prof-chaos.jpg

nomar, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

John McCain continues to show class and taste this campaign season:

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) suggested Monday that the Republican party’s months-long refusal to fill a vacant seat on the Supreme Court would extend into the next administration if Hillary Clinton is elected president.

"I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up," McCain said on WPHT Philadelphia radio in an interview first flagged by CNN. "I promise you. This is where we need the majority.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-republicans-will-remain-united-against-clinton-supreme-court-nominee

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

xp - https://vine.co/v/M6X3IEUwa9O

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

That "any" is amazingly candid. And stupid.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

What is he suggesting? An unfilled seat in the Supreme Court for at least 4 years?

jmm, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link


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