The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

If I were a Utah Democrat I'd vote for McMullin I think.

Meantime, Michelle Obama is going to be campaigning for HRC...in Arizona:

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/788032913505980416

Further:

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/788035569351794690

Robby Mook, on a conference call, announces the campaign is dumping $2m in AZ to win the state and $1m in MO and IN to help Dem races.

That's money to burn right there.

How long did it take people to realize that Sarah Palin was only interested in extracting money from them? Everyone should have known from the McCain campaign post-mortems that went around and she still skated around for what, a good 5-6 years before people in her base started calling her on her bullshit?

― ¶ (DJP), Monday, October 17, 2016 10:04 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was trying to remember how many minutes it was between the end of election season and the first appearance of a Palin on reality television. When the hell did we decide reality tv was a reasonable thing from people to drift into (and out of) from politics?

It was bad enough with actors, but at least that's a profession that requires you to be reasonably well-spoken, or at least able to deliver written material.

Meanwhile, he'd be a good president because he's a businessman who's efficient with money, you see.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-cash-bypasses-campaign-229849

Donald Trump posted an impressive fundraising haul last quarter, but a less efficient operation and his dependence on an estranged party apparatus mean his campaign benefits from only about a third of that.

Only about $68.7 million of the almost $212 million that Trump collected in the past three months through joint ventures with the Republican National Committee and state parties actually reached his campaign, according to the latest filings with the Federal Election Commission. Almost as much — $63.5 million — was eaten up by operating expenses such as paying for fundraising and compliance consultants, catering and event spaces, list rentals, direct mail and digital ads.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14292234_565728536952150_8170950379453742964_n.png?oh=798e02f5b46aeed67b617a07ad4dfb1f&oe=5898DA64

Carl Unger -- he speaks his mind:

https://twitter.com/anna_orso/status/787371278126710784

And while I dislike POLITICO here's a mostly unsourced glimpse into the glumness inside Clinton campaign headquarters.

When the hell did we decide reality tv was a reasonable thing from people to drift into (and out of) from politics?

To paraphrase a line from the Chapo Trap House podcast, when we made politicians celebrities and celebrities politicians.

We're a extremely depoliticized culture where most people's experience of elected types are just watching pixels on a screen, same with so many other contemptible types, so what's the differ?

And now HRC is planning an ad-buy in Texas:

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/788043665788633088

xxpost -- yeah I liked that piece because I have half a feeling the whole idea is to avoid seeming like they're spiking the football: thus, project a 'gloom, doom' image.

More on the Texas ad:

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/788044037278142464

Clinton campaign will run an ad in Texas highlighting her @dallasnews endorsement, aide says. Going up in Dallas, Houston, Austin and S.A.

Makes perfect sense.

I like the idea that people in Arizona, Texas, etc. have just been totally cut off from civilization, and all it takes is a couple of campaign ads to pop the bubble and break them out of their spell.

"Wait, wait ... huh? Where am I? What happened!? I had a horrible dream I was going to vote for Donald Trump, the only candidate, but now I have seen the truth. I have options!" [Votes for Trump anyway, because come on.]

Dallas and Austin are fairly liberal areas of Texas

John Oliver on Stein/Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

Ad magic is overrated, but this is less about that than marking territory/psyching the other side out. And given some recent polling in AZ in particular, the larger commitment of cash is notable; it won't just be ads, but a fuller play for the state.

Ads at this point in the game are more about getting people to the polls or to early voting and a lot less about convincing undecided voters, whoever the hell they are

90% of the effort in any campaign is getting your existing supporters to actually vote

Dallas and Austin are fairly liberal areas of Texas

San Antonio too from what I understand (+ huge latino population)

I like the idea that people in Arizona, Texas, etc. have just been totally cut off from civilization, and all it takes is a couple of campaign ads to pop the bubble and break them out of their spell.

"Wait, wait ... huh? Where am I? What happened!? I had a horrible dream I was going to vote for Donald Trump, the only candidate, but now I have seen the truth. I have options!" [Votes for Trump anyway, because come on.]

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 17, 2016 12:02 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was just in Arizona last week, certain parts are seemingly remote enough to make that possible. What a beautiful trip, though!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/10/13/the-washington-post-asked-clinton-trump-for-their-education-vision-heres-what-they-said/

The Washington Post asked the two major presidential candidates — Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump — to respond to an identical series of questions about their vision and plans for public schools should they become president of the United States.

. . . Trump’s campaign declined requests to answer the Post’s questions and instead provided the following comment and said it preferred “to direct voters to Mr. Trump’s plan” on his website. Here is Trump’s response as provided by Jessica Ditto, the candidate’s deputy communications director:

“As your president, I will be the nation’s biggest cheerleader for school choice. I want every single inner city child in America who is today trapped in a failing school to have the freedom – the civil right – to attend the school of their choice. I understand many stale old politicians will resist. But it’s time for our country to start thinking big once again. We spend too much time quibbling over the smallest words, when we should spend our time dreaming about the great adventures that lie ahead.”

Clinton’s campaign responded to the questions.

https://youtu.be/Mn7OBOvJ2kI

Tight races remaining of course.

https://t.co/oczxMA25Hh

Though this is of interest:

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/788049390728511491

Explained further:

among registered voters, Clinton is up 5 and 7. CNN's likely voter model is knocking 4,5 points off Clinton leads...while lv and rv models appear to be converging nationally, CNN remains outliers

“This is Russian psy-ops. That’s what they’re trying to do."

"...we will outcraft them, by buying...in Texas." *tents fingers*

Haha, man, the right wing just cannot cope with weird Twitter *at all*

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/788038014144540672

One recent evening, Kukura placed a sign in the student center that read, “College Republicans: The Best Party on Campus.” Half a dozen students attended their first meeting of the year, amid empty chairs and empty tables.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-campus-trump-backers-learn-to-keep-their-opinions-to-themselves/2016/10/17/7925a318-8f06-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html

yeah but the liberal media

I always vote for empty chairs oh wait

xxp couldn't have happened to a better grp of ppl

still baffles me that all these people who were perfectly willing to put sarah palin the proverbial one heartbeat away from the presidency are so shocked about trump

OK so dark hypothetical. suppose massive russian/external vote rigging and Trump wins the whole shebang by, like, 90% of all EV (because dictators never win by a plausible majority when an extraordinary majority will do...)

WHAT HAPPENS

You wake up and switch to better meals.

acknowledge the wholesale failure of our system to resist such obvious tampering and start over

It's a thought experiment that should maybe be explicitly spelled out as frequently as possible. Dude would probably be riding high until he was actually in office and realized that he can't just say a dumb thing and make it instantly happen. By that point, Lil Baby Sniffles has moved past Twitter tantrums and realizes he has the power to legitimately cause destruction and ruin lives and expresses his infantile rage in a whole new way.

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/788062678484869120

NEW Monmouth national poll, likely voters:

Clinton 50%
Trump 38%
Johnson 5%

Analysis: Weeeelllllpppp

Poll conducted over this weekend.

re trumpists' belief or nonbelief in the election results, i don't think there's any reason to think trump will believe in the election results. his brain will reject them. people salivating over his imminent humiliation may be in for a shock. like most conmen he is also mark.

so yes i see him stirring up mobs indefinitely, but after nov 8 w no pretense to any kind of democratic participation.

read that as "stirring up morbs indefinitely"

and also:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/788050722495442944

"The Trump Heisenberg Principle of rigging continues to hold, that a poll is both rigged and not rigged until Trump's position is ascertained"

that's hillary's job, obv xp

For when Trump inevitably whines about Monmouth:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/585406176541728768

so yes i see him stirring up mobs indefinitely, but after nov 8 w no pretense to any kind of democratic participation.

― difficult listening hour,

read that as "Morbs"

Carl Unger -- he speaks his mind:

https://twitter.com/anna_orso/status/787371278126710784

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:52 (one hour ago) Permalink

As someone who lives 30-40 minutes away from Williamsport, I apologize for this

the comments on that are great.

I was pretty bummed to see that within the past few days the number of Trump lawn signs in my neighborhood jumped from 2 to about 20. This of all weeks? Though it's nice of these houses to announce that they have pro-sexual assault folks living inside--you usually have to look that up on a sex offender registry site.

And while I dislike POLITICO here's a mostly unsourced glimpse into the glumness inside Clinton campaign headquarters.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 17, 2016 11:55 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Annie is on the infamous list of "journalists" fed pasta with walnut sauce by wetwork expert John Podesta...who used to be called "Secretary of Shit" in the Clinton WH because he cleaned up their frequent messes LOL

read that as "stirring up morbs indefinitely"

me too

What's a walnut sauce?

Pesto?

that's what the msm wants you to believe