The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

“Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”

The phrasing of this screams self-sabotage to me.

Yeah I was half thinking that myself.

or Trump fans angry at the GOP for stabbing their guy in the back (as they see it)?

“Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”

The phrasing of this screams self-sabotage to me.

http://i.imgur.com/qeMnCWF.jpg

The words in the story do not match the ones on the building

you're right, sorry. i copied/pasted the caption from the story that TPM linked to:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/counties/orange-county/article108628192.html

just can't buy into the conspiracy narrative on this one. i've seen footage of protesters attacking trump supporters. not going to make any excuses for that. not going to say that there's no way somebody could be deranged enough about this whole thing to firebomb a republican headquarters.

Found this pretty funny from Silver:

10. What would keep me up late at night if I were Trump?

I'm not sure I can keep up the gag of pretending that Trump has some sort of rational inner monologue. So instead, I'll think of this question as what would keep me up late at night if I were Kellyanne Conway, Trump's campaign manager...

Trump's already up Tweeting anyway.

The Arizona Republic: How do we respond to threats after our endorsement? This is how

As someone who has spent a career in the business of words, it’s unusual to find myself speechless.

Yet, there I was, a little more than two weeks ago.

What is the correct response, really, to this?

YOU'RE DEAD. WATCH YOUR BACK.

WE WILL BURN YOU DOWN.

YOU SHOULD BE PUT IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD AS A TRAITOR.

not much of a criticism; hell, L-dopa fixed me...alright

respect

http://jezebel.com/arizona-republic-responds-to-death-threats-over-its-cli-1787859711

(Sorry - I'd missed that this had already been posted.)

Any threat that spells it "you're dead" and not "your dead" I would not take seriously.

A (sic) would have interrupted the flow.

"How the Democratic and Republican nominees responded to the firebombing of a Republican office in NC:"

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/787789531189809152

hey, this is where my caucus was held during the primary!
http://whoradio.iheart.com/articles/who-radio-news-121648/des-moines-students-walkout-in-support-15201565/

Holy shit, the Clinton campaign just released a video talking about Trump's connections to/love of Alex Jones:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787748100324503552

Daria beat you to it

Love the silence as he starts beating up his printouts

how is that even a secret

I have the theory that Trump just regurgitates whatever was stuck in front of him prior to any appearance. So for the debates, he had a bunch of mostly-mainstream headlines and the bullet points, and before rallies he scans his printouts from all the conservative sites, from mainstream to fringe. If he misses a beat or all his short-term memory is used up, he starts saying weird random shit about being great and falling back on weird misogyny and xenophobia and how he has touched many women, so he must be very good with women.

it's like a hamster wheel in there and the only real feedback loop is between what gave him cheers in person and specific content factories he grabbed those points from

Lol UH OH!

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/787774752576245760

I have the theory that Trump just regurgitates whatever was stuck in front of him prior to any appearance

i cant find it now but there's that great story from last year (?) where a journalist in NH (?) asks him about people ODing on prescription painkillers instead of heroin and he knows nothing about it and asks the journalist what he thinks, and then trump goes out on stage and just regurgitates what the journalist just told him 20 minutes prior.

pro level

Yeah, I remember that story

Similar, how Wolf Blitzer got him to change his policy stances in real-time on a bog-standard/low effort Wolf interview

xpost yep, Taibbi in Rolling Stone

“Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”

yeah this seems off to me too. who says "get out of town or else" in 2016 esp if they are mad/punk enough to spray paint the walls?!!

also what do you want to bet hillary hits trump with the alex jones connections at the next debate, triggering yet another meltdown? (not that the last debate meltdown ever stopped)

i hope she does bring it up. i'm happy to see her campaign made that ad -- more people need to be talking about trump's connections to the far right.

I have the theory that Trump just regurgitates whatever was stuck in front of him prior to any appearance. So for the debates, he had a bunch of mostly-mainstream headlines and the bullet points, and before rallies he scans his printouts from all the conservative sites, from mainstream to fringe. If he misses a beat or all his short-term memory is used up, he starts saying weird random shit about being great and falling back on weird misogyny and xenophobia and how he has touched many women, so he must be very good with women.

― mh 😏, Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:42 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anecdotal evidence would seem to bear this out, and I think this is exactly the case. Dude is an imminently-suggestible and wholly reactive cipher.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-rigged-elections-republicans-229846

Donald Trump is laying the groundwork to lose on Nov. 8, refuse to concede the election, and teeter the country into an unprecedented crisis of faith in government. Republicans and Democrats, in Washington and beyond, fear that the aftermath of the 2016 election will create a festering infection in the already deep and lasting wound that the campaign is leaving on America.

i speculated many months ago that trump might refuse to concede

tbh politico gives him too much credit with 'laying the groundwork' here for having a plan. there is no plan! there is no strategy. he just has some kind of psychological disorder and this is how he reacts to adversity because everything is about him

I think all we have re: Trump is anecdotal evidence? And what we have points to him reading and watching clips about himself, or that mention him, as his only means of getting information, since that's the only thing that holds his attention. With maybe a dash of what Bannon or Kushner tells him is worth watching.

+ Alex Jones

Is a concession required to ratify the result? Just seems like nicety to which we've grown accustomed.

Seems like a good excuse for a poll

I'M JOKING PLEASE DON'T

24 days left

WRT Trump not conceding, its worth mentioning this Ari Fleisher interview in which he concludes that the GOP can recover in 2018 if Trump leaves politics, but conservatism will be damaged for decades if Trump chooses to remain politically active.

oh yeah that guy's had his finger on the pulse for a while, good source for information

He's v good at reminiscing about 9/11

i mean alex jones is hella entertaining based on the clips i've seen, it's just that i expect his next move is to feud with some guy over the intercontinental title or attack with a steel chair or w/e

maybe alex jones could attack ari fleischer with a steel chair.. he must have some crazy finishing move though like a powerbomb with some ridiculous name

It feels like Ari would have to come back and beat him with some kind of Zionic Force of the Establishment every time, otherwise why bother listening to Alex Jones

I mean if he can just out-wrestle one of the guys who did 9/11 why is he sitting in a fucking studio instead of getting justice with his muscles

My current theory is that Trump of course knows he's going to lose, and he also knows that, generally, everyone stops paying attention to whoever loses the presidency. This is particularly true for those who don't hold another national office--your Dukakises, Gores, and Romneys, the people who concede with something like dignity.

I also think that the past year has been far and away the best year of Donald Trump's life, he's literally been the center of attention for the entire country, and a substantial part of the globe pays attention to his every word. He honestly would do whatever it takes to prolong this as long as he can, the bullshit about the election being rigged is just the easiest way to do this.

Haha, shout out to Family Guy.

I also think that the past year has been far and away the best year of Donald Trump's life, he's literally been the center of attention for the entire country, and a substantial part of the globe pays attention to his every word.

For real, how long has Donald Trump of all people dominated this message board? He's like the greatest wrestling heel of all time

I have a hard time seeing Trump getting a lot of support from Republican leaders if he refuses to concede. I don't think that's a battle they want to fight on his behalf.

xp maybe this is all a run at an ig nobel? he's earned it!

I have a hard time seeing Trump getting a lot of support from Republican leaders if he refuses to concede. I don't think that's a battle they want to fight on his behalf.

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, October 17, 2016 12:20 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the gop will stop at nothing to delegitimize hillary clinton imo

the gop will stop at nothing to delegitimize hillary clinton imo

however, the GOP will prefer to distance itself from any of its surrogates who claim HRC is 1) a space alien or 2) a lizard person or 3) a cloven-footed minion of Satan or an actual imp from hell, while remaining careful not to impugn the possible legitimacy of such claims.