Marvel's Luke Cage

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which?

mh 😏, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

All the live music seemed pretty good.
I think main rapper cameo was Method Man in attempted robbery drugstore, then radio show where he gave an improvised rap.

Stevolende, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

it's called freestyling fyi

mh 😏, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

This was fucking badass

I hope Mike Colter ends up in everything based on his work in this. Ditto Simone Cook and Mahershala Ali.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 15 October 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i am only a few eps in but i fucking love this, i retract my earlier "slow & corny tag" & say this is cool, badass and vv enjoyable

also full-bearded shaggy Luke Cage in prison, he looked like a lion <3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 04:26 (seven years ago) link

can someone tell me about the landscape painting (photo?) behind Cottonmouth's desk?

kinda dark desert maybe with a glowing sky/weird vignette effect, I'm really into it

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link

from the set decorator

alison Froling ‏@moonraker_1 21h21 hours ago
@licjulie The painting is original painted by amazing scenic team- loosely in style of Charles Alston- we wanted tension btwn Lt&dk- & wings

Number None, Sunday, 16 October 2016 09:33 (seven years ago) link

it's so good. wow to them, that's awesome.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

i will watch this sooner or later but this elicited a chuckle

http://67.media.tumblr.com/9aa69c724c8ba81d16a6c110a7bedfaa/tumblr_oegd8bBjRQ1s71q1zo1_1280.png

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

that's every marvel netflix show!

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

well yeah but this is the active thread so...

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm going slow through this series (just watched ep2 last night) but man the music in this is really well done - bits of Byrd's "Cristo Redentor" for the bookend scenes, the nightclub song repurposing the riff from George Benson's "Footin'" as a 60s R&B tune (also meant as a nod to Diamond D's "Freestyle (Yo That's That Shit)", I assume. Plus it just looks great and the cast is v good. Cottonmouth guy overdoes it a bit but whatever.

Didn't connect Turk's "I'm goin back to Hell's Kitchen" line to Daredevil until this morning, I had registered his name when it was dropped during the chess game but I didn't connect it to the bit player in Miller's Daredevil run til afterward

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

some of the best original music for a marvelverse project yet IMO

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

xp have you watched Daredevil? He appears there a few times.

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

I couldn't make it through a single episode of Daredevil. It was all downhill after the credit sequence.

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Don't watch DD, you'll hate it more than I do.

Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

Daredevil had so many polite assailants that waited to take their turns in hallways

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

i really hate the acting in DD

Spottie, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

and even not in hallways! I'm not the type of viewer that focuses on the credibility of fight scenes, but it got too ridiculous even for me.

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

Luke Cage was so so so much better than Daredevil

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

i still like jessica jones just a tad more than luke cage, if only because JJ has by far the lowest cornball factor of any marvel thing i've seen without ever seeming like a posturing sort of grit. like SPOILER her final moment with kilgrave

that said a lot of the cornier stuff in luke cage is moving in a way that falls flat in other marvel stuff, because colter's depiction of cage is hugely convincing as an imperfect but earnest hero

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

so far there's barely been any action at all in Luke Cage! which doesn't really bother me. It really is more like a black noir/crime thing a la Himes/Goines/Slim etc.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

lol i didn't finish my sentence there re: that jessica jones moment, whoops xp self

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Jessica Jones was great. It's why I watched the other two. Daredevil is the weakest show of the 3. I don't think it's just because he's a cute scruffy white guy, but, that's part of it.

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

DD is still worth it just for Foggy and Karen, though.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

daredevil is like, perfectly fine popcorn shit imo for the most part, but its failings (all dialogue not spoken by scott glenn, many though not all the performances, some, uh, /questionable/ portrayals of japanese ppl, etc.) really stand out compared to cage and JJ

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

i was a huge fan of the bike chain fight in season 2, despite the somewhat valid criticisms of the action choreography upthread. but that in and of itself, to bring it back to cage, didn't impress me as much as luke storming the crispus attucks center while listening to "bring da ruckus"

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

so far there's barely been any action at all in Luke Cage! which doesn't really bother me. It really is more like a black noir/crime thing a la Himes/Goines/Slim etc.

xp

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 21, 2016 1:41 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't know if you've made it that far but they explicitly namedrop those authors (among others) within the show.

the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i chuckled when Frankie Faison's character mentioned Richard Price and Dennis Lehane, as they both wrote episodes of The Wire

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah those names are all dropped in ep2

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

which is pretty heavy-handed DO U C meta shit but eh whatever

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

it is, but keep in mind ppl who are well aware of the through-lines between cage and chester himes/mosley/goines novels are, ah, not this show's primary audience.

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

How mainstream is the audience for this?
Is it something that most people are likely to see or is it still in the realms of comic book fanboy stuff for most people?

Hoping that it is at least stumbled on.
& I guess Netflix is in a lot of people's homes now worldwide.

Stevolende, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

I think the Marvel Netflix shows have proven to be pretty popular but I also don't know that there's an effective metric for actually measuring that popularity atm.

the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

my FB feed isnt lit up with posts about it like Stranger Things was but I've seen a couple.

Spottie, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i chuckled when Frankie Faison's character mentioned Richard Price and Dennis Lehane, as they both wrote episodes of The Wire

Pelecanos and the other guy got a shout too!

Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

first season of DD was just too mean and brutal for its own good in my opinion and i almost didn't watch the second season because of that but i kinda liked how over-the-top and demented the second season was. i liked the elektra stuff.

scott seward, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah, the 2nd season was way better!

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

re: slowness -- i didn't feel this re the pace of the story, but i did feel it in some of lay back and conversate scenes, starting with the barbershop in the first ep; which seemed careful and stately when conversations in such places tend to be fast and, well, unstately

this wasn't a huge deal but it meant a scene that was important to setting a mood and a community and culture was more tell than show (i felt)

(i only know marvel via the movies -- the vast interconnectedness daunted me as a kid, even tho lol i was a kid like 40 years b4 most of the rest of you, and i never embarked on them -- anyway, this is entirely watchable and explicable w/o needing to know anything abt other storylines)

many many xposts: scott upthread lamented there not being "a great black family drama to watch on t.v." and it suddenly made me flash on a series from, i'm guessing, the early 90s, which was exactly this -- i think it was named for the name or number of the house, but i honestly don't remember much about it except that it was a bit groundbreaking for being about urban black american life and family without being embedded in crime or social justice issues? haha this is not much of a clue -- maybe i shd ask my sister, i watched it with her

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

227

¶ (DJP), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

well wait that was a sitcom, not a drama

¶ (DJP), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

was it this? http://www.famousfix.com/topic/413-hope-st

¶ (DJP), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

huh totally don't remember that

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

p sure it was not 227 tho lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

yes i think it was, dan, thank you -- i was going to say i think it was cancelled before first season finished, which it was

wikipedia: "The topics addressed by the series included drug addiction and recovery, HIV and AIDS, foster care, re-integration into society after incarceration, and homelessness" <-- so a bit more social-justicey than i remembered

anyway, digression, sorry

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

there was another series that meets the criteria (well maybe not the number in the title) that ran around the same time - maybe earlier? - and only lasted like one season. arrrgh what was that, I remember there was an episode addressing dark-skinned vs. light-skinned cultural hierarchy stuff

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

I can totally picture the lead and can't recall his name. bah!

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

ah Frank's Place

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

ha I was going to try Frank's Place next

¶ (DJP), Friday, 21 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

(frank's place definitely earlier)

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link


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