The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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xpost -- I can guess any number of reasons.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link

Trump was behind Balloon Boy

Neanderthal, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link

Trump's staff seems to not be prepared for any of this, so if worse things are around the corner there's no reason to tip them off.

โ’นโ“ก. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link

Funny thing is, if HRC's oppo staff came up with anything, they seem to be holding their cards and letting the free market of ideas do its thing.

publicity hungry, opportunistic, disgruntled former employee (Sanpaku), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

Trump reacts! (World laughs.)

https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/786422653988896768

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:40 (seven years ago) link

why would journalists not covering the story break it before the journalists who actually have all the facts?

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

they just have friends in the industry telling them things - they don't actually have the videotape/transcripts/witnesses/etc

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

That sounds like a fake law firm.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:43 (seven years ago) link

Funny thing is, if HRC's oppo staff came up with anything, they seem to be holding their cards and letting the free market of ideas do its thing.

they probably figure that at this point, there would be more to lose (via depressed voter turnout) than gain by joining in the revelations offensive.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link

Or perhaps they are handing off material to the media

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

still wracking my brain to think what would be worse than the assaults. further details on the rape of his first wife? documented connections to organized crime with some violent outcome directly traceable back to him? more concrete evidence on the rape of the 13 year old (this is the only one I can see really being explosive)

akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

some speculation that makes sense to me: maybe a sex tape? terrible racist comments? i was thinking some anti-semitic tirade would totally destroy him.

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:49 (seven years ago) link

Saw this posted on FB, with the comment "This is A+ pandering to the Vegas population. And I'm pretty pumped about it."

http://m.reviewjournal.com/politics/election-2016/presidential-nominee-hillary-clinton-draws-contrast-trump-during-las-vegas

On her way to the rally, Clinton stopped at Tacos El Gordo at 1724 E. Charleston Blvd., surprising customers.

.@HillaryClinton stops at Tacos El Gordo in #Vegas.#RJnow pic.twitter.com/jd08zZhlwV

โ€” Ben Botkin (@BenBotkin1) October 13, 2016

pic.twitter.com/jd08zZhlwV

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:51 (seven years ago) link

Saw this posted on FB, with the comment "This is A+ pandering to the Vegas population. And I'm pretty pumped about it."

http://m.reviewjournal.com/politics/election-2016/presidential-nominee-hillary-clinton-draws-contrast-trump-during-las-vegas

On her way to the rally, Clinton stopped at Tacos El Gordo at 1724 E. Charleston Blvd., surprising customers.

.@HillaryClinton stops at Tacos El Gordo in #Vegas.#RJnow pic.twitter.com/jd08zZhlwV

โ€” Ben Botkin (@BenBotkin1) October 13, 2016

http://pic.twitter.com/jd08zZhlwV

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:51 (seven years ago) link

Dammit. Can somebody fix that?

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link

Anonymous claiming to have a tape of clinton with a 13 year old girl from epstein.

akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/matthewjxmalady/status/786423186850283520

in reply to @mckaycoppins
matthew j.x. malady
@matthewjxmalady

@mckaycoppins @fmanjoo check out the spaces are after those periods. looks like it may be three, four? wtf.

Oct 12, 2016, 9:27 PM

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:55 (seven years ago) link

xp lol sure they do

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 04:57 (seven years ago) link

oh my god please let there be a Trump sex tape, it's the ending we all deserve

stop with the threats

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

Lots of journalists on twitter implying the big dump is coming tomorrow.

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:03 (seven years ago) link

Trump ain't winning. 0%, nochance NOHOW. Not if Hil shacks up tomorrow with Huma, or a family of yaks. I will speak in 'vocal fry' the rest of my days like a friggin' choreographer if he does.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:05 (seven years ago) link

that's some post dude

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:09 (seven years ago) link

rick wilson's twitter responses to his detractors are pretty classic

akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:12 (seven years ago) link

somehow i'm still seeing new disgusting revelations
https://twitter.com/TheRealKamie/status/786353787615281152

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:27 (seven years ago) link

like

"DNC members don't really represent constituents anyway"

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423#efmAshA2F

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link

ok first of all this is a comment made by mark siegel and then passed along to hillary's campaign by luzzatto. second of all it is a self-evidently true observation. DNC members don't have constituents because they aren't elected.

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link

i don't know why u make me explain these things

Mordy, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link

@mckaycoppins @fmanjoo check out the spaces are after those periods. looks like it may be three, four? wtf.

those aren't spaces, the text has been justified.

new noise, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link

full-service law firm

j., Thursday, 13 October 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link

those aren't spaces, the text has been justified.

Oh I don't think anybody could justify that text

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Thursday, 13 October 2016 06:27 (seven years ago) link

amazing: http://www.mtv.com/news/2941818/the-story-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-debate/

โ€• esempiu (crรผt)

You are the same as the others.
You build monuments to yourself, monuments that fall.
You seek power over man and so you seek followers, though they also fall.
You pretend any man is separate from any other man, though this is foolish.
You thirst in desperation for money, though it follows no one to the grave.
You attack and you yell and you lash out with your tongue and you lie.
You tell so many lies.

SO GREAT

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 13 October 2016 07:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah, that mtv piece is amazing

doo-doo diplomacy (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 October 2016 09:00 (seven years ago) link

So I guess whatever bombshell is allegedly imminent must be getting vetted or otherwise checked out legally, right? That's the only reason I can think of people knowing it's coming (if it is) but being so coy about it. Meanwhile, I presume the explosion of groping (or worse) accusations will continue. What's he up to on Twitter?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link

He hasn't tweeted for 13 hours. Some record surely>

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 13 October 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

Calm before the storm.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

And indeed:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/786551712228208640

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

More telling:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-donald-trump-ad-spending-229711

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

Some very interesting meat at the end of that:

The RNC says that its joint get-out-the-vote program with the Trump campaign had more than 1,000 staffers in the field last month, as compared to fewer than 900 working for Romney in October 2012.

Brad Parscale, Trumpโ€™s digital director, said the campaignโ€™s get-out-the-vote effort with the RNC is โ€œoutperforming 2012 numbers in nearly every battleground state.โ€ And he praised the RNC for providing โ€œvital ground game infrastructure, data research and modeling, financial partnership and have staff integrated throughout our teams.โ€

But a handful of veteran GOP field organizers have privately questioned the strength of the RNCโ€™s field program in recent interviews. Republicans trail Democrats organizationally in numerous swing states, with far fewer field staffers and canvassers to turn out votes for Trump.

And some Republicans suspect the abdication of the air war may stem less from a strategic shift to ground operations and more from the RNCโ€™s financial position. Through the end of August, the committee had raised $231 million over the course of the election cycle, far short of the $356 million it had raised at the same point in the 2012 campaign.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

OK, so help me out here. Pretend for the sake of argument that Trump ever had a clear path to election. Then pretend he wasn't likely about to get trounced. Then pretend that the RNC *did* want to replace him, whether or not there is a ticking time bomb disclosure set to go off. I've had this argument with two friends now, folks who wince every time something worse happens to Trump, because they think Pence or Ryan still have a shot at topping the ticket (and, goes their argument, winning). But that train has long left the station, right? Not even in terms of bylaws and other basic bureaucratic things, but in terms of the Constitution. Voting has already begun in earnest, absentee, overseas and early, so even assuming (for the sake of this exercise) that the RNC wanted to make a change, they really can't, can they, not without a Constitutional challenge on the basis that all those aforementioned early voters would be disenfranchised. Right? Even assuming they wanted to make a change, that would likely take the greatest state by state (and Federal level too) legal challenge this country has ever seen, which would take forever, which they/we don't have (except when it comes to the Supreme Court, ha ha).

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, even if it comes up that Trump fondled a toddler and fucked an underage dog on video, he's stuck on the ticket, right?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

THose people aren't voting for Trump but for people who say they will vote for him in the Electoral College

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

Is that the argument?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

but if those electors turn around and assign those Trump votes to, say, Pence, you're gonna have several million (in this case, actually justifiably) angry unhinged deplorables to contend with.

evol j, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

also, I feel pretty confident that the number of people you could conceivably sway from not voting/voting 3rd party/voting Hillary to voting Pence is far far outweighed by the number of people who are Trump or Bust.

evol j, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

There is no way to remove Trump from the ballot. There is no argument that would hold any water in court that he could be replaced by another candidate. Your friends are weird.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link

There is some provision in GOP rules to replace the nominee, but it would require picking and gathering the same number of delegates that voted at the convention and having them re-vote for someone else. Not gonna happen in 27 days. And hell would break loose. If Trump voluntarily dropped off the votes already cast for him would go to the person picked to replace him since the electors probably wouldn't change.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

and there are people voting in states already

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

That Trump tweet is deleted.

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

That Trump tweet is deleted.

Headline on Nov. 9

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

That's interesting. He's more of a double-downer than a deleter.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link


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